ROMANCE SCAMMER IN JAIL

by Pat Coughtrey

The man behind a sophisticated and lucrative online dating scam, who used love as a means to dupe women, has been sent to jail for six years and four months.

Hery Agunu, 25, was sentenced on October 25 after he had pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation after a bank in America stopped a payment which it believed to be fraudulent and alerted the US authorities.

They handed the case over to the Met Police’s Operation Podium, which led the investigation that tracked Agunu down.

The court had heard that Agunu, from Forest Gate, used Facebook, dating websites and other social media to portray himself as a white, widowed American businessman in search of love and companionship. He built a number of aliases, using details of real people.

He spent anything from two weeks to months on grooming his victims into forming a relationship with him and even falling in love. Then he would persuade the women that he was struggling financially and needed to borrow money until he got paid.

In one scam, Agunu told the victim he had won a multi-million pound contract to deliver “platform and transport services” for the Met Police during the Olympic and Paralympic Games. He went to great lengths in researching and writing a fake lucrative contract showing himself as the winner of the work.

Bankrupt

Podium have identified 17 victims from America, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago, aged from their mid-fifties to late seventies. One victim, a 69-year-old woman from the US, sent Agunu £144,000 as a result of his scam. Another victim lost so much money to him that she has had to declare herself bankrupt.

Agunu worked with 39-year-old Evelina Sisin from Edmonton, whose bank account was used to launder some of the money. She pleaded guilty in June to money laundering and was sentenced to 18 months in jail on October 25.

After the case, Det Supt Nick Downing, of Operation Podium, said: “Agunu was a sophisticated and charismatic operator who deliberately wormed his way into way into women’s affections, promising love and marriage, simply to rip them off. He has made thousands of pounds, and left a number of women suffering more than just financial loss.

“My advice to anyone is simple – no matter what the circumstances, never give money to anyone you meet online and cannot prove for yourself they are who they say, even if they use the name of a well-known organisation, such as ours, or produce professional-looking documents in an attempt to add credence to their claims. Such things are all too easy to fake.”

Agunu, of Odessa Road, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud at Isleworth Crown Court on October 22.

The judge ordered that other offences of money laundering lie on file.

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Woman Scammed via Online Dating Site

by Alison Smith Squire

When Alison Peters’ 42-year marriage hit a rocky patch, she sought comfort with a man she met on a dating website.

But unbeknown to Alison, 65, a teacher, her new romance was an internet scammer – who was to cruelly fleece her of £120,000.

Today, Alison who is now living in a caravan and trying to piece her life back together said: 'I can’t believe I was so stupid. I thought I was an intelligent woman. But I have lost my savings, my home – and almost completely lost my marriage.

'My life has been left in ruins.'

Alison’s nightmare began last year after she decided to try online dating.

She says: 'I’d recently moved out of the home I shared with my husband David, 68. We were going through a rocky period in our 42 year marriage. “David said he wanted a fresh start. He wanted to sell our house. He wanted to buy a boat and go sailing round the world without me. I was devastated. I hoped he was having a mid-life crisis but then he put our house on the market and we’d both seen solicitors and decided to divorce.'

A few weeks earlier Alison, a mum of two and grandmum of four, had been to a friend’s wedding.'She was marrying a wonderful man she had met on the internet,' she recalls, 'and so as my marriage was over I thought why not. My profile said, "Woman going through divorce... I am looking for friendship, good conversation and companionship".  I put up a photo and was amazed when a few days later I had seven replies.'

One was from Steve Myers. Claiming to be a widow aged 55, he said his wife had died twelve years ago. Half English and half Hungarian, he’d lived in America for a long time but he now had houses in Virginia, the U.S. and Croydon.  Says Alison from Basingstoke, Hants: 'Steve claimed he worked as a self-employed petroleum engineer earning £100,000 a year and travelled the world.  'Within an hour of messaging, I found myself pouring my heart out to him: "You deserve better," he wrote sympathetically after I’d said how devastated I was about my marriage. 'He sent me a photo and when I saw his kind face, I couldn’t help but warm to him.'

The next day Steve rang explaining away his unusual accent with the fact that he travelled so much.  Over the next few days Alison could barely wait until the evening when they would chat online.And over the next couple of weeks his emails became affectionate. 'He would write, "You’re someone I could marry" and when I said I was a Christian, back came another email full of bible quotes.'

Within five weeks the pair had agreed to meet. But as the big day arrived there was a problem.  Recalls Alison: ‘He told me he’d been called to the US. He said, ‘"There’s an oil contract in Malaysia that my company bid for – a $5.2 million dollar contract. I need to go to a conference in the US run by a large energy company."'On his way to the airport, I got another surprise phone call: "You couldn’t top up my mobile phone credit could you?" he asked, "Only I’m not going to be able to do it while I’m away." 'I said, "Of course not," What was £50 pounds between friends…'

Over the next couple of weeks, Steve continued to email. It was agreed Alison would pick him up from the airport and Steve sent his flight details.  'My stomach tingled as I imagined us running into one another’s arms,' says Alison, who booked a hotel for him. Only the day before he was due to return her mobile rang. She expected to hear Steve’s voice but it was another man on the end of the phone.'The Asian sounding man had a message for me. There had been a big explosion and accident on the site in Malaysia. Unfortunately Steve had to cancel his flight to the UK and fly to Malaysia that day.  The news hit me in the stomach. I’d been so excited to meet Steve at last. I’d even already paid for his hotel room.'

A few days later, in November, Steve rang, this time asking for $12,000 to buy equipment.  Alison admits: 'A tiny part of me nagged that it wasn’t genuine. But he told me he was going to give me a share of the 5.2 million dollar contract. And when tenatively I mentioned about scams Steve was so offended.'

Over the next few weeks she wired over the rest of her £23,000 savings.  'Once my daughter Catherine overheard me talking about money with Steve but I assured her I wasn’t sending him money,' she says.  However, she was still paying £50 a month for his mobile phone bill and Steve had promised her he’d soon be back in the UK.  And by now January 2012 she’d taken out two bank loans on the internet and sent over another £20,000 for more equipment.  'But when Steve asked me for more money to pay tax I told him he’d have to wait until the house I shared with David was sold.;

Then in February Alison rang husband David to discuss the house. 'Just hearing his voice made me realise how much I wanted to be with him, she recalls, 'and David felt the same about me.  'I told Steve from now on our relationship could be on a business footing.'

In February the house was sold and Alison moved into a caravan until she could afford another property. But Steve needed more money.'Steve had so many bills to pay and was under so much strain, he’d been diagnosed with prostate cancer. So I sent him £70,000. It was terrible news but at last the contract was finished. 'Steve': This is one of the pictures that the scammers pretending to be a man called 'Steve' sent to Anne 'Steve': This is one of the pictures that the scammers pretending to be a man called 'Steve' sent to Anne

‘At the same time I received an email from an organisation called Crown Third Party Finance to let me know 5.2 million dollars was waiting to go into my account.'The only snag was before it was to be released, I’d have to pay £10,000 for a special certificate.' Alison had no money so went to David, who thought it was a scam – but Alison showed him documents and convinced him to hand over the money.  She says: 'I expected to see millions in my bank account soon.'  But, of course nothing ever arrived.

On her daughter’s advice, Alison went to the Police – who believed she’d been part of an elaborate sting. They promised to investigate but warned Alison she was unlikely to get the money back. 'As soon as I got home, I emailed Steve,' says Alison, 'I was in a terrible state. I said, "You’re a scammer and I’ve gone to the Police. Because of you I’ve lost everything …"

'Incredibly, Steve emailed back denying it was a scam. But by then I knew it was. I put my head in my hands and wept. When I found Steve wasn't real, but a person made up by some scammers to dupe me I felt so betrayed.  At the time I had liked him so much. At my lowest my confidence was bolstered. At the time I truly believed I'd found a true companion, someone who understood me.  To find out he wasn't real and just concocted for me was terrible.'

She adds: 'Thankfully David has stood by me. And in fact he has helped me through this terrible time. In a way it's brought us both closer together and it's made us realise we don't want to throw away 42 years of marriage.  We still have our ups and downs but we're determined to make our relationship work. A few weeks ago he moved into the caravan with me and has bought a boat. We are hoping to buy a little bungalow together.

'But I will never get over losing so much money. I still wake up every morning and ask myself how I could have been sucked into a scam like this. I still feel incredibly foolish for believing all those lies.  But the lies were clever and I was at a vulnerable stage in my life. Even the Police said I was "ripe for the picking", I only hope telling my story will warn others.'

original article found here

SPOTTING THE INTERNET LIAR

How can you spot a liar online? Some telltale signs of online deception from Cornell professor of Communication -- Jeff Hancock.

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How Married, Middle-Class Predators Prey on Others

This story talks about vulnerable teenagers - but all you'd have to do is replace 'teenagers' with disabled or divorced or lonely or vulnerable or trusting ADULTS - and the modus operandi and result would be EXACTLY the same - EOPC

By Mark Williams-Thomas

Somewhere out there, as you read this, a man sits hunched over his computer, his brow furrowed in concentration as he taps away at his keyboard.

But he's not booking cinema tickets or tracing his family tree or doing any of the things that have made the internet such a valuable tool of modern life.

No, the sickening truth is that he's pretending to be a 13-year-old girl and he's in one of those internet chatrooms so beloved of our teenagers.

Using modern text-speak to pass muster as a teenager, he taps out an innocent-sounding question, the sort one teenage girl might ask another.

'Hve u gt a boyfriend - lol?' 'No,' replies the very real 12-year-old, giggling as she types.

Back comes the reply: 'Wd u like one?' The trap is about to be set.

The man, of course, is a paedophile; one of the most feared and loathed figures in today's society. But the girl, sitting at her computer in the comfort and supposed safety of her own bedroom. . . well, she could be my daughter, your daughter or anyone's daughter.

As a father, I know it's important not to overstate the danger our girls are in but, as a former policeman and professional child protection consultant, I also know the paedophile threat is out there. It's very real, it's very nasty indeed and the connection between those internet chats and images of paedophilia are all too common.

I've spent the past 18 months shadowing the officers of Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit and, despite being a former detective with more than 12 years of experience in child protection, I've been horrified by what I've seen.

It's not just the appalling nature of the photographic images that so alarms me; it's the number of them. Barely a decade ago, we thought it was bad enough that there were a few thousand of these images being passed around paedophile rings. Now there are literally millions.

It's become not just a worldwide problem, but a worldwide business, too, with organised crime gangs increasingly keen to muscle in on the lucrative trade for this truly disgusting material.

What you have to remember is that for each and every one of those images, a child has been coerced, assaulted and badly hurt. Many will have been raped and, in a few tragic cases, the victim may even have been killed. That's the reality of modern paedophilia.

Despite the horrific nature of these crimes, the problem seems to get worse every year.

As Detective Chief Inspector Nick Stevens, who heads the unit, puts it, he could have three times the staff he has and still be struggling to cope with the demand for their services.

The big question, of course, is who is looking at these appalling images and then going on, in far too many cases, to plan and commit their own assaults on children?

What my time at the Paedophile Unit has revealed is that the days when a lazy stereotype of a paedophile - a male, middle-aged loner, often still living with his parents - are long over.

Yes, child protection officers do still come across the sad and dangerous individuals who could be described in that way, but increasingly they are arresting a new breed of paedophile.

Often married and with children themselves, they can be well-educated and highly successful in their field.

Passing them in the street - and it could easily be your street - you wouldn't give them a second glance. But despite often having no criminal record, they pose every bit as serious a threat to our children as the more readily identifiable 'dirty old men' of the past.

'In the past couple of years we've arrested magistrates, lawyers, company directors, police officers, people in the media,' DCI Stevens tells me. Chillingly, it seems paedophiles and offenders really do now come from all walks of life.
Webcam

Take Andrew Lintern, for instance, one of the men I saw being arrested, who had travelled to London from Hertfordshire in the hope of having sex with a 13-year-old girl.

He was 55, married, highly qualified as a scientist working in IT, professional and, it later emerged, an Oxford graduate.

And yet when officers from the Paedophile Unit raided his home, they found nearly 20,000 indecent images, including video-clips of a 17-month-old baby being assaulted.

Lintern later confessed that the man assaulting the baby in the videoclips was, in fact, himself - an admission that no doubt contributed to him being ordered to be detained indefinitely when he came before Southwark Crown Court earlier this year.

What's brought about this change in both the number of paedophile and the backgrounds they come from, of course, is the internet.

Twenty years ago, a predatory paedophile would have had to loiter around parks, funfairs and swimming pools to gain access to children, where his suspicious behaviour - in full public view - would often have raised the alarm before he could cause any real harm.

But computers and the internet have brought an end to all that. Now a paedophile can be chatting to a vulnerable young teenager - even watching her on a webcam - after just a few clicks of his mouse.

The internet has become famous for bringing people together - relatives, old school friends, prospective husbands and wives - but it also has a dark side, and it doesn't come much darker than bringing a paedophile and his victim together.

That's what happened when Andrew Lintern logged onto an internet chatroom pretending to be a nine-year-old girl and began a conversation with 'Jessie', whom he believed was a 13-year old-girl.

Only, just as the nine-year-old girl wasn't who she said she was, nor was Jessie. In fact, she was John Taylor, a middle-aged detective and a Covert Internet Investigator (CII) with the Paedophile Unit.

'Thousands in the UK have looked at child pornography'
To catch the new breed of paedophile, you see, has required a new form of policing and Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit has led the world with its pro-active approach.

Since 2005, it's been using officers posing as young girls in internet chatrooms and on social networking sites to draw these paedophiles out into the open.

The idea is not to entrap them (which would be against the law), but simply to communicate with them long enough for them to break the law, either by engaging in sexual grooming, sending indecent images to a minor or by encouraging them to commit an indecent act.

Often, it is the investigation which follows the suspect's arrest on one of these charges that unearths evidence of even more serious crimes.

Such is the burden of proof that Paedophile Unit investigators are able to assemble that, more often than not, the defendants plead guilty.

Having worked alongside them for so many months, I am hugely impressed with their professional commitment and their determination to secure a conviction on the most serious charge they can.

After the excitement of a successful arrest, this, they say, is where the real work begins.

As one of the detectives told me: 'You've got to get their mobile phones examined, their computers examined, their cameras examined and look at every single image. Multiply that by the number of prisoners and it's a phenomenal amount of work.'

It's a meticulous and time-consuming approach, but it works.

Take Dean Hardy, a Kent businessman who, following a tip off from Europol, the European law enforcement agency, had been arrested for downloading child pornography from the internet.

Convinced but, as yet, unable to prove Hardy had also been assaulting children, his home was searched and a camera memory stick found which revealed pictures of an adult male's hand abusing a young Asian girl.

Proving the hand in the picture was Hardy's required something that had never been done before - a side-by-side photographic comparison and enough points of proven similarity to convince the Crown Prosecution Service, in the first instance, to take the higher charge of sexual assault to court and, in due course, for a jury to find him guilty.

In the end, however, the level of evidence so painstakingly assembled by the Paedophile Unit detectives was so great that Hardy pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to six years in prison earlier this year.

So how many paedophiles are there out there, trawling the net for underage girls? The truth is that not even Nick Stevens, head of the Paedophile Unit, knows. 'I believe there are thousands of people in the UK who have looked at child pornography.' What he doesn't know is what proportion go on and try to make contact online with a child and then meet them.

All I can add, having watched the Paedophile Unit at work and worked myself in the same field, is that we under-estimate the scale of the problem at our peril. The internet has opened a door, and I believe that many men have already stepped through it and more will follow.

The statistic that keeps coming back to me is that of 300 men arrested by the Paedophile Unit since 2005, most had no previous convictions.

To put it another way, if John Taylor hadn't pretended to be 'Jessie', Andrew Lintern, a man we now know had been abusing children for a decade, would still be out there.

What can be done about this growing evil? Well, a number of things. Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit has led the world with its approach to catching paedophiles, and I'd like to see other enforcement agencies around the world following their example. But I'd also like police forces everywhere to remember that this is a crime with a victim as well as a perpetrator.

If we're clever and fortunate, we can send that perpetrator to prison for a very long time, but there's a danger that we forget the often terrifying ordeal his victims may have experienced. They need our help and, at the moment, they're not always getting it.

I'd also like to see internet service providers and those hosting chatrooms and social networking sites to be held responsible for the content they carry. Some sites need to closed down entirely; others need to be far more effectively moderated.

original article here

INTERNET LURING

(While the original article deals with warning for children - we have amended it to read for adults, as well. A link to the original article is below - EOPC)

For generations it has been ingrained in us, time-honoured rule: "Don't talk to strangers."

But that rule has a new meaning now that people can talk to strangers all over the world via the internet.

Talking in chat groups and through e-mail isn't anything like talking over the telephone or meeting someone in person. There is no eye contact and there is no chance to pick up meaning from the cadence and rhythm of the human voice. People on the internet can log on using fake names, they can create whole new identities that are tough to challenge.

The scary thing is that many people who talk and chat on the Internet think it's perfectly safe.

But it's not.

An underage Canadian girl, who can't be named, received this e-mail from her "cyberpal."

I thought about you and what I would do if we were together and this happened when we had our baby... You are my inspiration and my soul! I can hardly wait til you're with me.
Love, your man Jason

Jason turned out to be 28-year-old Jason Wright from Washington state. He arrived at the girl's home in Victoria, B.C., and drove away with her.

Police caught up with them and charged Wright with abduction and sexual assault. Police say Wright had spent a night in a hotel with the girl.

They also found a notebook containing the names and e-mail addresses of other young girls in Canada and the U.S.

Wright was found not guilty of both charges.

In 2001, Ottawa proposed a new law that would mean a maximum five-year prison sentence for people caught using the internet to lure children. The law came into effect in July 2002 as part of an omnibus amendment to the Criminal Code.

But Bruce Headridge, a former detective with the Organized Crime Agency of B.C., says there's still a long way to go as the legal system tries to keep up with the quickly-evolving technology. (Needs to provide recourse and safety for lured adults as well!!)

Online safety rules

* Don't respond to flaming (provocation)

* Choose a genderless screen name

* Don't flirt online, unless you're prepared for the consequences. This is just like real life. Yes, you have the right to flirt. And you have the right to a sexy nickname. Sometimes it's better just to back off a bit and not exercise all your rights all the time.

* Save offending messages and report them to your service provider (and theirs)

* Don't give out any personal information about yourself or anyone else.

* Get out of a situation online that has become hostile, log off or surf elsewhere.

CyberBreach.com, set up by Headridge also suggests similar guidelines for online chats and e-mails.

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ORIGINAL ARTICLE HERE

Online Dating -- Dangerous for Your Life

by Jamie Ramirez

Sitting behind a computer, I could be anyone I wish to be. I could be a 13-year-old boy from Kansas who likes to play videogames. Or I could be a 47-year-old woman from another country looking to get married to a single American man. The point is: I could take on any identity and no one would ever have to know.

Online dating is potentially very dangerous. There's no assurance that the person you are talking to is really telling the truth. There's no way of knowing if they have a criminal background, was once or are married or has children.

Blind dates are different. Usually, a friend or an acquaintance has recommended a person who they think would be compatible for you. If someone is referring you on a date with a suitable single, he or she are using his or her judgment and knowledge of what appeals to you.

Online dating services simply use a questionnaire to match up singles through common answers and common interests. A computer does not have the ability to make a judgment call or to decide compatibility for two people. It simply matches answers.

People can also lie about who they are. Behind a computer, anyone could take on any identity they choose. Online dating is dangerous because everyone has access to a computer. That includes rapists and child molesters.

According to a study conducted by the American Psychological Association in August 2004, less than 5 percent of online sexual offenders used force to sexually abuse their victims when they decided to meet.

Victims said they already felt close bonds with their attacker before meeting with them.

People just need an Internet connection. But why put your life at risk for the chance to go on a date? Some would argue that love is worth taking a risk. Call me old fashioned, but I don't think love is worth putting your life on the line.

original article here

How to Avoid a Broken (Online) Heart

Here are some red flags that might indicate an online "romance" may be nothing more than an attempt to steal your money:

• You've never met face to face with your online suitor.

• They profess love immediately, often within 24 to 48 hours. They claim fate or God brought you together.

• They quickly use terms of endearment: "sweetie," "hon," "baby, " etc. (they can't remember your real name)

• On a social networking or dating site, their profile photo disappears soon after making contact and they prefer chatting by instant messaging. If they chat with you by webcam, theirs never seems to work.

• Their emails use bad grammar, poor spelling and the pronoun "i" instead of "I." They often misspell the name of their supposed hometown and don't know any local landmarks.

• They misunderstand typical American slang, such as "night owl" or "poker face."

• They quickly send small gifts (teddy bears, chocolate, flowers), often purchased with stolen credit cards or unwittingly by other victims being scammed.

• When asked a question they can't answer, they go offline to look up a response, always claiming they had a phone call or needed a bathroom break.

• They claim to be well-paid professionals in another U.S. city but traveling overseas for work assignments (engineering, mining, solar power, construction, etc.).

• They often say they've lost a spouse, child or other family member in a horrible accident or have seriously ill family members.

• They repeatedly request financial help for varied, urgent reasons: airline tickets to visit you; hospital bills after a car accident; difficulty accessing their bank account while traveling; need for shipping, customs fees, etc. for work assignments; family members require emergency surgery.

• They always have a new story for why repayments don't arrive.

• After an online absence, they call you by a different name, an indication they're working several victims at once.

• If caught in an inconsistency, they always have a cover-up (e.g., someone else used their computer to talk with you) or suggest you don't trust them.

• They insist you keep the relationship secret until they come to live with you.

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• For victims seeking support, go to www.RomanceScams.org, an online nonprofit started in 2005 to raise awareness and offer peer counseling.

original article here

Over 200,000 in Britain Duped by Online Dating Scams

by Peter Walker

(U.K.) Number of unreported cases likely to be far higher as individual losses range from £50 to £240,000

More than 200,000 people in Britain may have been conned by fraudsters posing as would-be romantic partners on internet dating sites, according to the first study examining the potential scale of the problem.

Anti-fraud groups have warned for some time about scams, in which criminals create a false identity – often an army officer on active service, explaining an inability to meet in person – and develop a close online intimacy with a victim, who is then asked for cash to help their presumed suitor out of a crisis.

It had long been suspected that official figures for such crimes greatly under-represented their prevalence, largely because many victims feel too embarrassed or hurt to go to the police, or never realise they have been conned.

The study by the universities of Leicester and Westminster, working with the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca), found 2% of people surveyed personally knew someone who had experienced the crime. Extrapolating this to the online UK population means more than 200,000 potential victims.

Monica Whitty, a psychologist and professor of contemporary media at Leicester University, said that the pool of those targeted was likely to be greater still as it did not include people who realised what was happening before they lost money and those who still did not realise they had been conned.

The researchers had been "shocked" at the numbers involved, she said.

There has been an assumption that victims tend to be middle-aged women. However, said Whitty, targets were from both genders and all age groups.

Aside from the financial costs involved – Soca has tracked individual losses ranging from £50 to £240,000 – those conned also faced the heartbreak of discovering that the person with whom they had fallen in love was the invention of a skilled con artist, usually Nigerian or Ghanaian, and often not even of the same gender.

"A lot of people find it very hard to accept what has happened, even if they know the person involved is now in jail," Whitty said. We've had male victims who still refer to the other person as 'she', even though they now know it was a man. In a few cases they've found the relationship so therapeutic they keep it going, even if they know they've been conned."

The scams often begin with an online dating site profile carrying a notably attractive photo, taken from elsewhere on the internet, and a description of someone in a remote, hard-to-contact location – whether a military base in Afghanistan or, to tempt male victims, a UK or US nurse at a small foreign hospital.

The use of almost exclusively online communication – the criminals occasionally resort to phone calls but these are rare given the extra difficulty of explaining away an accent – can actually accelerate intimacy, Whitty said, allowing victims to project their own hopes and desires on to a warm and empathic correspondent.

"Email and instant messaging can have the effect of being hyper-personal. Lots of people get in touch with someone through a dating site, meet them a few weeks later and this person doesn't live up to their expectations. With an online relationship this never happens."

The faked romances can last for a long time – the longest the researchers heard of was five years – with each criminal juggling a series of parallel relationships. At some point comes the request for urgent financial assistance, often to help them out of supposed difficulty.

"They might test the waters by asking for a present, for example saying they've lost their mobile phone and need another one. If this happens, they'll ask for money. It's like a clever marketing ploy."

Very few cases are seemingly reported. A spokesman for the UK's National Fraud Authority said the agency had learned of 730 crimes over the past 15 months, totalling £8m in losses.

The survey, covering more than 2,000 people, found that just over half were aware that such romance scams existed.

While this was a positive sign, Colin Woodcock of Soca said, significant numbers of people remained at risk.

"The perpetrators spend long periods of time grooming their victims, working out their vulnerabilities and when the time is right to ask for money," he said. By being aware of how to stay safe online, members of the UK public can ensure they don't join those who have lost nearly every penny they had, been robbed of their self-respect, and in some cases, committed suicide after being exploited, relentlessly, by these criminals."


How to spot a dating scam

Soca has compiled a list of tell-tale signs for people to look out for if they suspect their internet suitor is a con artist.

• A distant location and/or a job in the military: by pretending to be serving in, for example, Afghanistan, or on an oil rig, the scammer has a convenient excuse for being unable to chat on the phone or in person. When men are targeted, the other party often tends to be a nurse working in a remote country.

• A fondness for Windows Messenger or similar applications: aware that dating sites are increasingly conscious of such cons, the perpetrators can be keen to continue their wooing elsewhere.

• A suspiciously attractive and/or rugged-looking photo: of course, not every good-looking person lurking on a dating site is a fraudster. But the con artists tend to select particularly alluring physical alter egos, which they borrow from elsewhere on the internet.

• A quick adoption of a pet name: if, by the second email, you are being addressed as "dearest fluffy bunny", beware – it could be a fraudster looking to establish instant intimacy.

• A predisposition towards financial or other misfortunes: it is perhaps the most obvious tip, but if a suitor you have never met suddenly crashes their car, or needs an expensive airfare or a lawyer, be on your guard. The same goes if they start alluding to gold bullion or suitcases full of cash they hope to bring to the U.K.

original article found here

$500,000 Lost in Internet Dating Scam

(Colorado, U.S.A.) Widow loses $500,000 after falling for fake 'military lover' in internet dating scam

A grieving widow has lost $500,000 of her life savings and her home after being taken in by an Internet dating scam.

Esther Ortiz-Rodeghero, 55, decided to look for love online after she lost her husband and thought she had hit the jackpot with a suave military man on the website, seniorpeoplemeet.com.

Instead it was a fraudster who convinced her to continually fork out money which Mrs Ortiz-Rodeghero wired all over the world from her home in Castle Rock, Colorado.

She had started to look for love online last October after her husband David Rodeghero died of pancreatic cancer at the age of 52.

She told ABCNews.com: 'After seeing a therapist I was advised maybe I should go on a dating website and meet new people ... because I was depressed.'

The 55-year-old came across a site called seniorpeoplemeet.com.

It was there that she met a man called Wayne Jackson, a handsome, dark-haired man wearing fatigues who said he was an Army general. He claimed he was based in Iraq but wanted to retire and come home to America.

She said: 'I was so blinded by it, because if you were to read some of the emails he would send me, this man was romancing me.' "Together. We're going to be happy together. You're the woman of my dreams." Things that a woman who is hurting for attention and love would want to hear.'

A month into the romance, he began to ask for money.

WEB OF DECEIT
Esther Ortiz-Rodeghero received hundreds of emails from 'Army general Wayne Jackson' with subject lines that began casually - 'Hi Honey' - but became more and more intense - 'You Will Always be In My Heart', 'We Can Do Anything' and 'Until The End Of Time'.

One gushing email reads: 'Dear Esther, We are meant to be together for the rest of our lives, this we know. Each night is spent dreaming of your face and wishing you were next to me. I love you with my entire being. Meeting you was fate. Forever Yours, Wayne Jackson.'

At first she sent $500 after he explained that his American bank account had been frozen and he couldn't sort it out in person because he was in Iraq.

He then told her of his plans to start a shipping business when he came back from service and asked her to help him with the start-up fees so they could run it together.

Mrs Ortiz-Rodeghero sent him $100,000.

She said: 'All the time he kept telling me, "I'll pay you back, I'll pay you back. I'll take care of you, don't worry."

During the entire relationship, they didn't once speak on the phone 'because of security reasons'.

She continued to send more and more money, using up her savings, her husband's life insurance and her 401k. The scam has left Mrs Ortiz-Rodeghero with nothing and to add to her worries, she recently lost her job as a financial analyst after working 17 years for the same firm.

Her house is in foreclosure and she has declared bankruptcy.

The 55-year-old went to her local police department in Castle Rock who has since filed a report to the FBI.

The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) has been set up by the government to try to stamp out this kind of web crime. (Backlogged 8+ years as of this writing)

The agency said the most vulnerable to the scams are those over 40, divorced, widowed, disabled or just lonely.

In April, it posted specific advice for those who become involved in online dating. It includes warnings to be careful of suitors who declare their 'undying love', tell harrowing stories of family tragedy or ask for money too quickly.

In more serious cases, victims who have agreed to meet in person with an online love interest have been reported missing, injured, or in one instance, dead.

The site seniorpeoplemeet.com, also warned against taking potential dates at face value.

It tells users not to wire money and be wary of those who talk about 'destiny' or 'fate' and claim to be from the U.S. but working or travelling abroad.

Mrs Ortiz-Rodeghero now says she will stick to dating the more traditional way.


original article found here

SOUNDS LIKE NATHAN ERNEST BURL THOMAS, JR.

Stalker Blames Religious Upbringing

by Jeremy Pierce

A GOLD Coast radiographer who tricked a hospital nurse into sending him nude photos of herself has blamed his crime on a strict religious upbringing and an addiction to pornography.

Jordan David Hennig, 26, created an elaborate female persona on the internet using profile pictures of an American porn star to gain the trust of workmate Belinda Fitzgerald.

Hennig faced Southport Magistrates Court yesterday, pleading guilty to one count of unlawfully stalking Fitzgerald, who has since been forced to leave her job at Pindara Private Hospital for another hospital.

Magistrate George Wilkie fined Hennig $4000 and placed him on probation for two years.

The court was told Hennig went to great lengths to create a fake online modelling agency, and contacted Fitzgerald on Facebook under the alias of Megan Jones, saying "she" wanted to use photos of the attractive nurse to promote a spa and beauty business called "Completely Bare".

Fitzgerald sent Hennig several nude pictures of herself taken during a photo shoot for a breast cancer campaign.

To build up Fitzgerald's trust, the fictional Jones sent her raunchy pictures, supposedly of "herself", but which were really of American porn queen Meggan Malone.

The two stayed in regular contact via email and text messages for several months between September last year and March. It was only after Fitzgerald stumbled across links to Megan Jones on Hennig's work computer that she smelled a rat.

Defence lawyer Nick Tobin said his client was ashamed of his actions, but pointed to a strict Seventh Day Adventist upbringing as reason for his behaviour, saying the church "restricted relationships between the sexes".

"He has had very little experience in the way of relationships with women," Mr Tobin said.

He also said Hennig was receiving counselling from a church support group to help battle his "addiction to pornographic material".

Fitzgerald, who did not attend yesterday's proceedings, said she felt let down by the result of the case.

"It's no surprise, I wouldn't expect any more from the court system," she said.

"He gets a fine, but what about the financial burden it caused me?"

Hennig, who is still employed at Pindara, refused to talk to the media outside the court.

original article here

BRAD DORSKY: ONE VICTIM SHARES HER THOUGHTS

ONE OF BRAD DORSKY (our Predator of the Month)'s
VICTIMS SHARES HER THOUGHTS:
Brad and I met in late 1999 or early 2000 in a social/cultural issues discussion club on Yahoo (he was, at the time, real-life friends with the founder). We didn't talk until spring of 2000, but I had liked his posts because they were written in a very unusual style and because he seemed to fit the "dream man" criteria I had in my head. (Cyberpaths tailor their "stats" to fit YOUR needs... liars)

I was only 15 and had been through difficult experiences in the school I attended prior to high school, and I wanted to vent to someone about society and why people treated me the way they did at that school. I was happy because I had lots of friends in high school but at the same time, still angry and depressed and didn't feel like I could love someone. I added him to my Friend List for that purpose- venting and talking about social and cultural change from the heart. I actually didn't want to get into more than friendship because I had this feeling that it was going to get out of control. I added everyone in the club, but he was the only club member to write me back with a friendly note saying that he read my profile and he couldn't wait to talk to me. (he figured out you were depressed, in need of some attention and moved in for the kill!)

We became on and off friends from 2000 to 2002. We did flirt a lot, but we also had fights over pretty juvenile things (musical taste or just difference of opinion) and would stop speaking sometimes for months.

In 2002, our club disintegrated, and my family moved to another city where I started university, which took me a while to adjust. During that time, I felt like Brad was the only stable thing in my life. He told me and made me believe that he was my soulmate and that we had a spiritual connection that was deep & intense. It was then that I started getting real feelings for him. We started talking about meeting and becoming intimate. He told me he never had sex with a girl because he wanted something serious and soulful, and girls in his area were slutty... he said I was that girl he was looking for, and when we would finally be together, it would change our lives. After a long year filled with planning and, sadly, my lying to my family on some occasions, we met in person. I was 18 at that time. (how CONVENIENT of him to WAIT until you were LEGAL! Almost pedophile-like grooming of you then he pounced when you were of age, huh?)

He was extremely arrogant and didn't even look into my eyes half the time. I felt like my head automatically bowed in front of him. He made me feel very small because he is tall and used his arrogant posture, making him seem even taller. I thought he had a very warm, hypnotic voice and his eye color was very fascinating, but the meeting was a disaster. He was with a friend of his, which I did not expect, and after 20 minutes, he disappeared on me.

My parents were there; they were shocked and my mom said she could feel these very bad vibes from him just when he talked. I didn't listen because he'd brainwashed me thoroughly. Later, he told me it was my fault because I didn't listen to his directions properly, but whatever it was, he "punished" me by not talking to me for several months. (typical)

We "made up" in late 2003 and kept talking until 2005. Beginning in 2003 and into 2005, he changed gradually. He made up different excuses about why he couldn't come and see me. He also dropped covert hints that I wasn't good enough for him and that if I wanted him to see me, I would have to improve myself. He began to step-up the brainwashing; subtly telling me howI should dress and act and what kind of beliefs I should have and what I had to think about the world in general if I wanted him to be with me.

I didn't realize he was abusing me only because I thought abuse involved overt name-calling or physical abuse and he never called me a hurtful name in my life. Around this time the sexual conversations began to turn scarier for me. He started asking me more often if I was going out with other guys behind his back and being "disloyal." He began to use some very frightening terms and continually manipulated me into discussing sexual stuff I was very uncomfortable with. If I didn't agree to do it, we couldn't have a real relationship, according to him. (GAG!!! what a user & predator!!)
Our relationship turned into a hopeless cycle of me trying to change myself and please him and then him complaining about something that made me 'never quite good enough.' By the end, Brad told me I was going to be his sex slave (and told me what that would entail!!) and he would control the way I dressed when I was with him to make it more revealing in ways I hated (everything low cut and those plaid schoolgirl skirts). He also made jokes about threesomes with his male friends. Despite all of my objections, Brad effectively used this thought reform to add one more layer of fear to our relationship. By now we only talked approximately once a month and rarely e-mailed.

Every conversation now was filled with tension. I would think "What else is he going to tell me to do? How will I have to please him?" I was very fearful and hypervigilent by 2005 because I truly did not know what to expect. Sometimes, he would let things go, but other times, he would not and I never knew when he do one thing or another. I used to say "Brad is watching over me" meaning I thought he was supporting and loving towards me. But by this time, it felt like he really was watching my every move. He had twisted my mind, and everything I did was filled with this doubt, "would Brad approve?"

I found out the truth in the summer of 2005. At this time, the relationship had turned into blatant emotional abuse and I decided to stopped speaking to him temporarily because the anxiety was making me physically sick. The stress made me lose about 5-7 pounds and felt very weak. I always suspected he was talking to other girls online, but he had convinced me it wasn't serious and I was the only serious girl he had any relationship with. Accidentally (I was looking for something related to his state's music scene), I found the first of his online personal ads! It had his picture on it, the same one he sent me, which confirmed - it was him.
When I read the ad, for the first time in our relationship, I began to cry. I realized he was a total fraud. He said he "was looking for the right girl" in his ad. I thought, "how could he say that when he told me I was right for him?" (all cyberpaths say this and guess what NO ONE WILL EVER BE RIGHT!! its a LURE!!) Here I had changed myself at his direction and was at the point of exhaustion, all so he would come see me; just so he would touch me! I was horrified by the fact he used the same exact language in the ad as he did with me. He made me into a disposable shell of myself and he threw me away, all the while BLAMING ME for not being "good enough." How could this man call himself moral and representing some sort of "indie culture" when he was a liar. (Because he's narcissistic)

I then went on a search of more personals sites and found him at at least three different sites, portraying himself in three different ways. That's just the ones I could view without registering. He probably has more ads and picks up some of his girls through Yahoo clubs, as he did with me. (Yes, probably using the same B.S. or tailoring it to each girl so he can twist her mind too. Psychological sadist)
The last time we spoke was in July of 2005. I confronted him about the ads. I told him that I saw one of the ads. He admitted it to me ("I didn't write anything that bad in those ads!") and told me I was overreacting and that I should basically pretend I never saw them because he said, "I am going to tell you what I think you should know". (LOL!!! JERK!!!) He even asked me to prove I saw them; by that time, I knew how he operated, so I saved the two photos on his ad and sent them to him. After that, he said "So what, we are just friends, aren't we?". I told him that we were planning to have something more, and he said "I talk dirty to lots of girls online and we're all just friends." (and that's OK???? Wow what a pervert! And a liar. And a USER! Can't have a female friend without it being sexual?)

Brad then accused me of being disloyal and talking dirty to other guys online behind his back and before I could answer him he left. (how mature!! NOT! he was BUSTED!! This is a common reaction for cyberpaths. Projection -- accusing you-- and running; like a roach when the lights come on.)

Afterwards, I began getting better. Iit took me a couple months to calm the anxiety attacks and the constant feeling of being inadequate. I am much better now, although when I get depressed the feeling comes back. I have not had any contact with him. I found some other screennames from one of his emails, researched them found that they probably some of his other current online targets.

I don't want 'revenge' or to 'teach him a lesson.' I have nothing more to say to him. I want to expose him because I know there are other girls feeling the same pain and anxiety I was subjected to by this cyberpath and I want to know they're not alone and its not their fault. I also want to warn other women that may want to meet him via his online ads. Hopefully, more people can now understand the way predators like him think and operate and make decisions to avoid someone like him. (good for you!)

I am now enjoying studying and living my life the way I want. It's an amazing feeling not to be brainwashed or controlled by someone who claims he does it because he loves you and because he's helping you become a good person. There is no longer that feeling of pressure on me, and I can't believe how good being free of him feels!
(GOOD FOR YOU!!!
This story is classic and shows how these guys manipulate their victims then PROJECT their bad behavior on their victims, leaving the victims feeling guilty -- while running away to find new prey! This cyberpath picks on girls who are too young to realize what he's doing until its to late; grooming them and once they are 'of age' getting sexual kicks online with them. This was emotional rape, a serious boundary violation and legally "intentional infliction of emotional distress" - Fighter )

BRAD DORSKY - A REAL 'CHARMER'

Posting here, with permission from the victims, some of the chat transcripts one victim had with Mr. Dorsky. Please find her story and read it and you will see how hollow his chat was, how full of lies, distortions and outright come ons. Despite the victim's youth and Dorsky relatively young - I have seen NO DIFFERENCE between his talk and the way older online predators talk, groom, manipulate and LURE their victims. - Fighter
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VICTIM: hey baby whats up how are you?
bdo5373689: peachy you.
VICTIM: great how was the NIN concert?
VICTIM: kick-ass i presume?
bdo5373689: yes did you read my post it on it?
VICTIM: yeah tell me more
bdo5373689: they had this huge stage with lots of lights and three huge.
VICTIM: three huge what?
bdo5373689: screens with images and of all kinds of beach and
VICTIM: wow that is awesome did they play a lot of songs from the fragile?
bdo5373689: and other stuff there was so much I can't tell you all you would have to see it to understand.
VICTIM: i see
bdo5373689: about five or six
VICTIM: well did you miss me? i was thinking about you all day today...just completely couldnt get you out of my head
bdo5373689: they played alot of old stuff too they played for a hour and a half and perfect circle played fourty five min.
bdo5373689: as allways i did miss you.
VICTIM: perfect circle is good have you seen their video? it was directed by rthe guy who did fight club.and they have a chick bassist too!
bdo5373689: I see you missed me. (notice how throughout these chats, Dorsky WAITS for her to say something then basically repeats the sentiment back. This is a seduction technique known as MIRRORING to get the Victim think you & they are "of one mind" or "on the same page." It also creates a FALSE sense of intimacy.)
bdo5373689: I say the chick bassist.
bdo5373689: but i did not see their video.
VICTIM: its basically them playing in a warehouse but the camera work is a lot like fight club. its all shaky and very dark
VICTIM: the song is called judith
bdo5373689: sounds cool
VICTIM: yeah it really is.
VICTIM: so anything else new?
bdo5373689: so what else is going on?
bdo5373689: thats it I have work tomarrow.
VICTIM: um nothing today i had to write a crappy survey ins chool..but at least i missed all morning classes
bdo5373689: I had the day off
VICTIM: lucky you
VICTIM: did you have any weird dreams about me
bdo5373689: I droped the top on my jeep and went to my friends school and helped out at the radio show being on the air and stuff.
VICTIM: oh yeah i remember reading in the club you do that sometimes
VICTIM: thats cool
bdo5373689: no did you have any of me? (He's hoping.... The dream chat stuff is another form of come on)
VICTIM: no i dream of twiggy sometimes tho
bdo5373689: I am going to a show at the campus I might be on the show as well maybe.
VICTIM: what show?
bdo5373689: tomarrow so I know I will not be online.
VICTIM: oh okay
VICTIM: im going to scan my pic tomorrow
VICTIM: so saturday when youll talk to me itll be all ready for you
bdo5373689: the Radio show That I was helping out
bdo5373689: cool
bdo5373689: cool
VICTIM: you cant wait right? (notice how he didn't say what the victim hoped he'd say so she was forced to ask.... he manipulated her)
bdo5373689: the one band tours with a porn star, that is playing tomarrow night. (Dorsky HAD to bring up the porn star thing and notice how he lets it drop...)
VICTIM: guy or girl?
bdo5373689: yes by all means
bdo5373689: girl
VICTIM: does she sing or play? what does she do
bdo5373689: they love on at the show they want me to be on when I start class there in the fall.
bdo5373689: don't know.
VICTIM: okay
VICTIM: ask me something, im running out of words
bdo5373689: sorry anouther friend IMed me.
VICTIM: ok
bdo5373689: So now is there any one trying to mac you ? (Not his business, really but again, making sure she has NO OTHER CONTACTS so he's ISOLATED her and protesting that she's his when he was probably chatting up multiple girls. More manipulation)
VICTIM: no why?
bdo5373689: didn't you say there was one after you ?
VICTIM: oh i see what youre talking about
VICTIM: there was that guy online who tried to hit on me but it old him i was unavailable and then i checked out his profile and he was not my type
VICTIM: we never talked since
bdo5373689: I see ok
VICTIM: and you? i always thought chicks were all over you cuz of all that stuff you used to write in your profile
VICTIM: then you told me you were a virgin and i was really surprised
bdo5373689: really thats just my nutty self.
VICTIM: oh wow hehe
VICTIM: whats your favorite song of this moment
VICTIM: i always like to ask people that because then i can sorta tell how the person is feeling
bdo5373689: I am off the wall online and off you should here me on the radio show.
VICTIM: yeah i wish
bdo5373689: the smashing pumpkins
VICTIM: cool which one?
bdo5373689: blank page (that's Brad - BLANK PAGE - like all Cyberpaths: "Anyone you want me to be"... except the real you)
bdo5373689: how about you ?
VICTIM: lets see..im feeling like a NIN song today
VICTIM: probably closer or perfect drug
bdo5373689: they don't play the perfect drug at the show I was pissed!
VICTIM: that sucks i love that song for some reason it reminds me of you
VICTIM: then again a lot of songs do thats why i obsess with them
bdo5373689: Ow your so cute I am the same way.
VICTIM: thats so cool which song reminds you of me
bdo5373689: the same one. (MIRRORING!!)
VICTIM: wow that is even cooler
VICTIM: we both think exactly the same thing
VICTIM: about each other
bdo5373689: ya he he we are mind readers.
VICTIM: lol haha
VICTIM: can you tell what im thinking right now
bdo5373689: you want me up there right now?
VICTIM: wow that was damn easy wasnt it?
bdo5373689: ya you sexy thing you.
VICTIM: hehe yeah i like you like that
VICTIM: are you still there?
bdo5373689: yes sorry
VICTIM: thats okay i meant what i said
bdo5373689: I was talking to the other person. (so many windows with so many innocent young girls talking to this predatory jerk)
VICTIM: okay
bdo5373689: really roar!
VICTIM: haha
VICTIM: yeah i do i love playing mind games with people especially guys
bdo5373689: so this is all a big joke now?
VICTIM: are you kidding again? of course not!
bdo5373689: joking
bdo5373689: yak yak
VICTIM: im just trying to flirt with you
VICTIM: in my own way
bdo5373689: like you said we think alike. (no Brad - you REALLY DO play mind games! the victim was trying to be flirtatious, you were being manipulative - BIG DIFFERENCE WITH INTENT. When someone protests that they "aren't liars, won't hurt you, are honest, etc" - RED FLAG!)
VICTIM: i guess so
bdo5373689: you sweety you .
VICTIM: aww
VICTIM: thats so sweet of you
VICTIM: talk some more to me ill have to leave you in 20 min or so
VICTIM: i have a test tomorrow
bdo5373689: so what do you want to talk about?
VICTIM: hehe well..something interesting
VICTIM: you pick the topic
bdo5373689: Are you in to S&M at all? (OMG when left to pick the topic - LOOK where his mind goes! Major red flag!!)
VICTIM: no not really. are you really into that?
VICTIM: like is it the only thing you do?
bdo5373689: no no not at all I am not in to it
VICTIM: cuz handcuffs piss me off theres no way ever in my life ill let someone use handcuffs on me
VICTIM: nor will i ever use them on someone else
bdo5373689: I just wanted to see what you thought about it.
bdo5373689: hay want to have siber sex?
VICTIM: um well how do you do that exactly?
VICTIM: im intrigued but still..
bdo5373689: Its just like having sex but you type.
VICTIM: ughh do i have to type out descriptions or something cuz thats just ******
VICTIM: no offense or anything
bdo5373689: I don't know I never did this before what ever you want.
VICTIM: well ive never done that either
bdo5373689: he he he
bdo5373689: ok lets see who do you want to start first?
bdo5373689: thats if you want to? (Victim is just talking but he goes RIGHT for the sexual chat - that's the only reason he's really online talking to her .... BLECH)
VICTIM: well i dont have much time but hey what the hell
VICTIM: hold on be right back
bdo5373689: ok
VICTIM: im back
bdo5373689: so are you in or know?
VICTIM: all that will happen in the next few minutes is completely private?
bdo5373689: yes
VICTIM: oh
bdo5373689: what?
VICTIM: my parents want me to stop chatting...damn
VICTIM: what about saturday? by that time i will have my pic scanned and you can look at me and imagine that im right there
bdo5373689: ok then we can start saturday
VICTIM: great well have a good night
VICTIM: how long do you think itll take?
bdo5373689: hell ya talk to you later sexy good night.
VICTIM: bye love ya baby
VICTIM: i knew it was going to come to this but i dont care
VICTIM: one day ill do it in real life
bdo5373689: ya sounds like fun
VICTIM: hahah now im one of those internet perverts my parents keep lecturing me about (no honey, you are chatting with one)
VICTIM: well i must stop now im getting overly excited
bdo5373689: no not at all (of course - Brad doesn't think its perverted.... breaking down her defenses for more talk **see her story** later)
VICTIM: talk to ya saturday and bye sexy
VICTIM: im out
VICTIM: sweet dreams
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VICTIM: hi baby im here
bdo5373689: So what are you going to do to me lover?
VICTIM: i just want to talk to you... (notice where HE wants to go and where the VICTIM wants to go - 2 different things!!!)
VICTIM: the things you said last night were on my mind all day
bdo5373689: in what kind of way??
VICTIM: because you and i are very similar. we have the same tastes, we have the same goals and our personalities are alike
VICTIM: because i feel a connection with you that i cant even explain it's just there (you are talking to a net-mirror that's why)
bdo5373689: I see
bdo5373689: the only problem is getting there with out being noticed
VICTIM: yeah i know what you mean
bdo5373689: I mean when you think about it we are in the same boat.
VICTIM: exactly
bdo5373689: And me haveing work problems isn;t helping.
VICTIM: whats happening?
VICTIM: at work i mean
bdo5373689: I hate my job to the point that I want to quit and go somewhere else but one the other hand I want to see you and if I start a nouther job now I will not be able to see you this year. (dangling himself: carrot & stick - TYPICAL CYBERPATH MOVE. 'glimpses of what could happen' with NO REAL INTENT OF ACTING ON IT EVER!)
VICTIM: yeah i know how you feel if you REALLY want to see ill guess youll just have to hold on a little bit longer
VICTIM: i hate school sometimes too so much that i just want to quit of course i never do
bdo5373689: ya you should really finish high school that is a big milestone in your life you should not screw it up by droping out.
bdo5373689: If any thing finish school.
VICTIM: yeah i dont want to drop out im actually smart its just that the monotony of it pissess me off sometimes
bdo5373689: ya I know what you mean, by all means.
bdo5373689: So how was your day?
VICTIM: good i bought a cd today
bdo5373689: wich one?
VICTIM: the matrix soundtrack
VICTIM: its one of the few cds where i like every song on it..well almost every one
VICTIM: theres about 2 sucky songs out of 13 thats really good
bdo5373689: I heard it on the way to P-town when WENT up there with a friend.
VICTIM: cool how did you like it? it has manson on it- rock is dead is a great song
VICTIM: but then again so is every manson song.. except sweet dreams
bdo5373689: Its on the very tip of the cape thats where a the gays hang out and well you know >(
VICTIM: ok
bdo5373689: ya I would have to say.
VICTIM: so how was your day? sounds not so good, am i right?
bdo5373689: So tell me what are you wareing? (wearing? o.k. again, sexual chat on his mind - this is like the net version of "what's your sign?" all so the cyberpath can fantasize)
VICTIM: pretty much the same outfit as yesterday
VICTIM: its just that im in the same mood as i was yesterday
bdo5373689: ya well I would have to say it sucked my day that is.
VICTIM: sort of excited and dont know what to expect from you
bdo5373689: I want to meet you soo bad (meet??? hahahahaha)
VICTIM: yes i know how you feel i cant stop thinking about you
bdo5373689: I hate this place it sucks with out you.
VICTIM: same here
VICTIM: hold on ill be right back
bdo5373689: I think it would be cool If we where in the same band together.
VICTIM: im back
VICTIM: yeah it would be interesting and if we had a video id make it a fight club-inspired sort of thing
bdo5373689: What some guy beating the crap out of me?
VICTIM: so id be playing my guitar and youd be playing my love interest & playing bass
VICTIM: no no no just the "love" story of fight club and the way it would be shot
VICTIM: the video i mean
bdo5373689: So would I be banging you in the video?
bdo5373689: like in the movie?
VICTIM: yes wed have to do a sex scene thing..it would be simulated of sourse but im sure wed0 make it look real
bdo5373689: so when I am banging you what will the other band members be doing?
VICTIM: well wed have like 2 storylines going on
bdo5373689: hold on one sec.
VICTIM: thered be some shots of me & the band just playing while destructions going on
VICTIM: and then thered be the whole subplot between us and theyd come together at the end
bdo5373689: so are to lead singer?
VICTIM: yeas lead singing & guitar
VICTIM: what did you mean? i didnt really get what you were saying
bdo5373689: ya when your done ****ing me manson could **** my ****. he he he he (perverted - guess what the only thing Mr. Dorsky thinks about is?)
VICTIM: interesting
VICTIM: have you read manson's autobiography?
bdo5373689: no you?
VICTIM: ive read parts of it
VICTIM: some are quite sick a lot of details of his and his band's fetishes and all that
bdo5373689: really
VICTIM: yes
bdo5373689: sounds neat (neat? UGH!!!)
VICTIM: hehe yeah you will probably like it
bdo5373689: I should pick it up
VICTIM: yeah its called "the long hard road out of hell"
bdo5373689: well we have two things in common
bdo5373689: me and manson that is
VICTIM: and they are...
bdo5373689: long hair and big d***s no lie
bdo5373689: its all truth (geez Brad - is everything about what's happening in your pants? Wait - YES IT IS!)
VICTIM: long hair? really? how long?
VICTIM: and also do you have a goatee? just wondering?
bdo5373689: well his is a little longer then mine
bdo5373689: I am going to cut it thow
VICTIM: oh okay
VICTIM: i like spiked hair
VICTIM: on guys i mean
VICTIM: and how do you know what manson looks like naked? (she picked up the subtle red flag here but Dorsky uses her youth to diffuse the concern)
bdo5373689: I would look like shit with spiked hair
VICTIM: oh well whatever you like
bdo5373689: I have seen video I him naked
VICTIM: what video?
bdo5373689: His second one he put out there are three of them.
VICTIM: is that dead to the world? or god is in the tv?
bdo5373689: hold on one sec.
bdo5373689: dead to the world
VICTIM: ok what did he do naked?
bdo5373689: a seen by the pool as he was pissing in it.
VICTIM: ahh okay
VICTIM: ive seen some nude pics of twiggy
bdo5373689: really?? do you have them on hand ?? (nude pics!! like a shark to blood!! UGH)
VICTIM: no but i can find the site address
VICTIM: if you want it
bdo5373689: Manson did some for playgril (HOW do you know this, Brad??)
bdo5373689: sorry play girl
VICTIM: i think i know which ones you mean
VICTIM: i was actually kinda disappointed by the twiggy ones
bdo5373689: ya thats it I have a gay friend with the pics on his computer but he did not e-mail them to me yet (I bet you have the Brad. I bet you are looking at them during this conversation!)
VICTIM: i can give you the sites that have them
bdo5373689: the basterd
bdo5373689: ok
VICTIM: why do you want to see them tho?
bdo5373689: just because
VICTIM: hehe
bdo5373689: no reason really
bdo5373689: chicks only get me off not dudes (sounds like anything perverted, even a tiny bit sexual, i.e. - talking about body parts, S&M or your you-know-what and manipulating unsuspecting girls gets you off, Brad)
VICTIM: well anyway the page that has them is XXX
VICTIM: scroll way down to where it says XXX magazine
VICTIM: thats nice to know about
bdo5373689: could you make it in to a hyper link for me
VICTIM: how can I do that
bdo5373689: you did it once before
bdo5373689: with you site that is
VICTIM: oh you mean do the pink fight club-ish font?
VICTIM: oh wait no you mean something else
bdo5373689: don't worry
VICTIM: i dont know how to do that that just happened by accident that one time
bdo5373689: I will right it down
VICTIM: yeah just copy the address then paste it into "location" and go there
bdo5373689: ok hold on
VICTIM: i will
bdo5373689: ok nothing is going on
VICTIM: what do you mean
bdo5373689: I did what you said
bdo5373689: and nothing no site of any kind.
VICTIM: then just type the address into "location" and press enter
VICTIM: its working just fine
bdo5373689: ok its working
VICTIM: well did you see them?
VICTIM: what did you think?
bdo5373689: I say bits only I will book markit
VICTIM: ok
VICTIM: talk to me some more..not about manson just about us or whatever
bdo5373689: So do you know that person at all?
VICTIM: what person
bdo5373689: In the pics
VICTIM: the chick? no idea. before rose mcgowan manson had a lot of girlfriends
bdo5373689: do you know who runs the site
VICTIM: a lot of porn people
VICTIM: no i just have it bookmarked because it has a lot of good pics
bdo5373689: there are nude pics on the site? ('PLEASE let there be more nude pics' right Brad? PLEASE let this chick unknowingly give me some fresh porn to look at!!!! ick...)
VICTIM: except these 2 no
bdo5373689: ok
VICTIM: i was kinda disappointed by the twiggy ones
bdo5373689: but why twiggy when you could have me? (oh spare us all!)
bdo5373689: he he
VICTIM: exactly!
VICTIM: twiggy has nothing on you
bdo5373689: plus I am buffer then he is. (you are huh?)
VICTIM: ok
VICTIM: plus you dont do drugs every day
bdo5373689: ya
VICTIM: and look wasted
bdo5373689: ya
bdo5373689: right again
bdo5373689: well sun shin I have to go to bed (I have to block you, watch some porn or talk to some other girl)
VICTIM: aww ok
VICTIM: i can talk to you tomorrow but not tuesday night i have to study for a test
bdo5373689: ok so i will see you wensday then?
VICTIM: yeah but you can talk to me tomorrow night too
VICTIM: unless youre busy or something
bdo5373689: no
VICTIM: ok well talk to ya tomorrow night then
bdo5373689: I will wait for you
VICTIM: thanx
bdo5373689: ok nit nit sexy
VICTIM: good night love ya baby
bdo5373689: bye love ya your b*tch Brad
VICTIM: talk to ya tomorrow
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VICTIM: hello how are you..my keyboard ****ed up but its fine now
bdo5373689: ok whats new?
bdo5373689: I missed you .
VICTIM: not much..at least i dont have a lot of homework this weekend..yeah
VICTIM: so did I
VICTIM: how was the retirement party?
bdo5373689: great everything went wonderful.
VICTIM: thats good
bdo5373689: I got a new CD today.
VICTIM: what cd?
bdo5373689: did you ever here of the band slipknot?
VICTIM: yes..i saw their video about half an hour ago
VICTIM: muchmusic has a 1 hour metal/indsutrial show called loud and I just watched that
VICTIM: so how is it?
bdo5373689: I think they will be around for along time.
bdo5373689: Its great very happy
VICTIM: cool. ive only heard 1 song by them (wait and bleed)..didnt really like it but hopefully they have other better songs.
bdo5373689: I think there other stuff is better then wait and bleed personaly
bdo5373689: sorry two LL's
VICTIM: cool...ever seen them live? my friend saw them live but i didnt..im still mad at myself for not going w/her, that show had slipknot, dope and coal chamber and my friend actually met Coal sliChamber!!
VICTIM: ignore the "sli" in front of chamber
bdo5373689: no I never say they live. & ok
bdo5373689: So when are you out for the summer?
VICTIM: end of june
bdo5373689: don't you have family in Massachusetts?
VICTIM: no
bdo5373689: or around?
VICTIM: i have distant relatives in XXXX and XXXX
VICTIM: they dont know me at all tho
VICTIM: and i dont know them
bdo5373689: that sucks.
VICTIM: lol yeah
bdo5373689: so thats how you get your ha ha's
VICTIM: so whats your other favorite music besides slipknot & manson?
bdo5373689: you
VICTIM: lol
VICTIM: yeah, i have a few song titles made up and i even have lyrics for one song
bdo5373689: now that band rocks me all night long!
VICTIM: oh yeah
bdo5373689: nice
bdo5373689: So do you have a band together yet?
VICTIM: no..itll be a long time before i will
VICTIM: sux, doesnt it?
bdo5373689: ya but I am in the same boat.
VICTIM: i know what you feel
VICTIM: what would you call your band if you had one?
bdo5373689: don't know maybe soap sunday ?
VICTIM: wow thats a cool name i like it
VICTIM: is it related to fight club in any way?
bdo5373689: don't just poped in my head
VICTIM: that is a cool name
bdo5373689: yaaaaaaaaaa its all right for a spare of the moment sort of thing.
VICTIM: i guess
bdo5373689: I could see the stage.
VICTIM: huh?
bdo5373689: A huge bath tub with a woman in sudds every where. (of course Brad would remember THAT!)
VICTIM: okay, i get what youre saying
VICTIM: what happens next?
bdo5373689: but of corse they would have to where pastys.
bdo5373689: and a thong
bdo5373689: they couldn't be nude. (detailed aren't we Mr. Dorsky??)
VICTIM: okay
bdo5373689: And there would be this huge stair way
VICTIM: ok
bdo5373689: and you would be the queen actress
VICTIM: woohoo
bdo5373689: and you would come down the stairs and
VICTIM: and what?
VICTIM: what would you be doing?
bdo5373689: don't know I'm still thinking (thinking you're a sex addict or of more ways to torture this poor girl who hasn't even met you yet?)
bdo5373689: playing my bass why what you want me to do?
VICTIM: just wondering what you would be doing
VICTIM: cant i talk to you or something?
bdo5373689: what? ya you can talk to me. (sorry so many windows and porn and other girls to pay attention to just the VICTIM!)
VICTIM: awesome
bdo5373689: why whats up?
VICTIM: nothing
bdo5373689: but what where you talking about by saying ( can't I talk to you or something)?
bdo5373689: come on spit it out!
VICTIM: i asked you what you'd be doing and you said playing your bass and i said cant i talk to you while youre playing or after a song or something?
bdo5373689: Oh ya of corse (busted Brad.... weren't ya?)
VICTIM: thats what i meant..sorry if you misunderstood
bdo5373689: I just was not sure what you where talking about at first.
bdo5373689: ok]
bdo5373689: So where do you think you will be going to college?
VICTIM: not sure yet
VICTIM: depends on marks & like that
bdo5373689: you should come here we need hot sexy woman down these parts like boston and the cape.
bdo5373689: And friendly as well
VICTIM: i will just for you
VICTIM: maybe even before i finish high school..like next summer
bdo5373689: ya
bdo5373689: do you have any beaches or lakes?
VICTIM: no
bdo5373689: do you like that kind of thing?
VICTIM: not much
bdo5373689: same here
VICTIM: cool
bdo5373689: I don
bdo5373689: sorry
bdo5373689: I don't mind pools but I hate swiming in the ocean
VICTIM: i can barely swim so why bother trying
bdo5373689: I hate salt water and jelly fish
VICTIM: eww jelly fish ;-(
bdo5373689: swiming is easy once you get the hang of it
VICTIM: i guess so
bdo5373689: If we ever meet I will teach ya
VICTIM: okay
VICTIM: ill do anything for you..haha (oh no she said the magic words)
bdo5373689: is you site up to date?
bdo5373689: really???!!!??? (oh great.... now he's gonna use her even worse)
VICTIM: yes, i updated it a few days ago..no pics tho, just general info
bdo5373689: anything!
VICTIM: well...just about anything
bdo5373689: no pic ? A hot lady like you why? (I need stuff to fantasize to!!! for free!!)
VICTIM: cant find good pics to scan..i really hope to scan one next week
bdo5373689: do you have any others on hand?
VICTIM: just older ones from last year..theres one of me in seattle where you can see kurt cobains house in the background
bdo5373689: there is no such thing as a bad pic in your case, there all very very hot!
VICTIM: thank you
VICTIM: i appreciate that
bdo5373689: can I see? if not I understand.
VICTIM: can you see what?
bdo5373689: don't you say you had other pics from last year?
VICTIM: theyre not scanned tho
bdo5373689: OH ok
VICTIM: i will scan them next week hopefully if my scanner doesnt mess up on me like it did last week
bdo5373689: are you in to any sports?
VICTIM: not at all..and you?
bdo5373689: only football and once in a while I will wich some hockey or baseball for the hell of it if nouthing else is on.
VICTIM: ok
bdo5373689: So tell me.
VICTIM: yes
bdo5373689: whats your biggest dreams of all time?
VICTIM: lets see...i want to have a career in music..my family thinks im crazy but they dont know how serious i am
VICTIM: i want to influence the world in some way
bdo5373689: now I have one question am i in this huge dream in any way shape of form? And what way would that be?
VICTIM: by music i mean a band and getting a record deal
VICTIM: and if we ever meet, you're definitely in this whole cream as my friend..and maybe even more
VICTIM: sorry..i meant dream
bdo5373689: nice
VICTIM: and what about you
bdo5373689: I want to be a rock star to put it in a nut shell I see it the same way you look at life only.
bdo5373689: I think I will not live the life of a rock star I would be more low cover so to speak. (oh spare us AGAIN!!)
VICTIM: cool
VICTIM: well, unfortunatly i must go now
bdo5373689: Ok good night love ya you foxy lady you.
VICTIM: bye sexy
VICTIM: haha
VICTIM: love ya..talk to ya tomorrow
bdo5373689: ok nite sexy
VICTIM: bye
VICTIM: im out