THE RAGE OF A CYBERPATH WHEN CAUGHT

BE CAREFUL!!

ONCE YOU EXPOSE THEM YOU WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE SUBJECT TO NARCISSISTIC RAGE. THE CYBERPATH MAY/WILL DO THE FOLLOWING:

- smear you to everyone they can
- harrass you by phone or email (by sure to BLOCK their emails and instant messages or DO NOT REPLY - just save them. If they threaten you, go immediately to the authorities.)
- minimize or twist the truth about what happened to their friends, family, spouse, partners, co-workers
- do everything they can to make YOU look like the sick, mentally ill, distrubed ("scorned) or not credible person
- post you on every exposure site, revenge site or blog about you (often including 'information' on you that is completely false and made-up)
- use their 'proxies' (friends/ spouses in denial, other predators, etc) to help them discredit and smear you
- hire an attorney and give the attorney selective information to sue you for defamation and/or slander. (REMEMBER: the TRUTH is a 100% defense to this. Do not harass but 'stay the course'!)
- go to law enforcement, again with selective information, to have you charged with cyberstalking or cyber-harrassment or worse. (again, stay strong - don't go out of control - and stay the course)

We can assure you that some of the cyberpaths profiled here come to this site many times a day, send us threatening email demanding to know who exposed them (we have YET to have to do this... and doubt we ever will; which is why we ask you to sign a release binding you to tell only the truth and provide proof)

They threaten to sue EOPC, click the "report this blog" button a number of times and even pretend to be other people or send their friends (proxies) to this site to try to covertly get information from us. The people running this site are adults, some who know quite a bit about the law and crime investigation. We are not all in the same country, either.

To the Victims - "exercise caution. And expect to find yourself under attack. Be sure to tell everyone close to you what you are doing. And we support and congratulate you for telling the truth and embracing reality."

To the Cyberpaths - "Lie to everyone you can, if you must - but the truth remains - HERE! We know it, you know it and you can twist in the winds of your twisted realities but a lie is a lie."

The narcissistically injured on the other hand, cannot rest until he has blotted out a vaguely experienced offender who dared to oppose him, to disagree with him, or to outshine him.

It can never find rest because it can never wipe out the evidence that has contradicted its conviction it is unique and perfect. This archaic rage goes on and on and on.
-Group Helplessness and Rage -- Ernest S. Wolf, MD

THE CRAZY THINGS CYBERPATHS SAY!

OH, THE THINGS CYBERPATHS SAY!

Just a few words about the reactions of online predators we have profiled or those we have helped to expose behind the scenes of this blog.

In the time this blog has been up and running - we have only heard from ONE online predator who threatened us directly with legal action. We welcomed it since we had done nothing wrong and could back up everything we had. (this is the reason for our stringent rules for exposure) Of course, this Cyberpath dropped the whole thing, still complains but has taken NO ACTUAL ACTION.

Brad Dorsky, who threatened us, seemed to think he was dealing with a bunch of vindictive teenagers on a social networking site - he thought wrong. Mr. Dorsky said he was going to his local police - we told him to please feel free as we would be happy to speak to the FBI about his contacting someone out of the country and grooming her until she was no longer a minor to talk about violent sexual acts online with her that traumatized her. (Cyberpaths love to see how far they can push you after they have brainwashed you).

Mr. Dorsky later had a friend of his write to us - wanting to know who we were, who gave us the information about them and tell us Dorsky was 'a good person.' We did not give out the name of the person who gave us the information. We are happy to post rebuttals or clarifying information.

Also, we encouraged him to seek counseling for the way he had treated his victims and even offered to help him find a counselor in their area. We never heard from him again; nor did we remove any of the postings. hhmmmm......

We have reports of cyberpaths filing restraining or cease & desist orders or DMCA Takedowns on their victims to turn it around make themselves or their families look like the hurt party. Some, we guess, have enough money to drag all their victims to court and blame them for not controlling the whole internet. Most times - they have taken doctored or 'selective' information to law enforcement to get these orders. Law enforcement is often SHOCKED when they find out they have been lied to by these seemingly 'upright citizens.'

Sheer stupidity. All to support lies.

None of the ones we know have resulted in much of anything (other than the emotional trauma) legally for the victims. All have been dropped.

- We had one cyberpath, Steven Langley Guy, write us as his EX WIFE and that "he" had tried to commit suicide because we called him 'a predator.' (why would an EX-WIFE be using his computer?? and he IS a predator)

- Then Mr. Guy wrote that he was hiring a lawyer (many of them SAY this, virtually none of them really do it!!)

- And finally - "he" wrote as the person who exposed him begging us to remove him.

ALL FROM THE SAME IP NUMBER.
These predators really think we're that stupid?

(We recently heard he's BACK AT IT AGAIN!!)

EOPC asked him for the same "proof" we ask from those who turn this information over to us. To date - NO ONE EXPOSED HERE has been able to show us any hard proof that anything we have posted here was false or fabricated by the victims who reported it. They have made-up and cobbled things together that somehow they believe exonerates them. Not one has passed the honesty test. These cyberpaths and all others remain on our site.

We can see that our cyberpaths come to this blog, searching for who is here - who posted against them. Some even search all the defamation and free speech links for some loophole. (Keith Clive , Dan Jacoby, Doug Beckstead and others, come here using anonymous proxies thinking we don't notice, LOL) Oh yes, some DO even try to change their location, their IPs or use anonymous proxies. Nice try!

Dan Jacoby has been having his buddies write and threaten us and then post things about EOPC as "that horrible site" for outing his new identities. Jacoby & his proxies "Do Protest Too Much." We would guess that his exposure cut into his preying grounds. Jacoby has also made no attempt at financial restitution for the things he duped out of one of his victims.

To all you cyberpaths; How about expending that energy you are using on your smear campaigns & attempts to re-write history instead: on making amends & talking it out with those you harmed, or in your own offline lives -- as well as getting yourselves therapy - in short: be an honest human being who doesn't use & abuse people.

• Don't just cut them off when YOU Get caught!!
• Genuinely Apologize. (Make financial restitution where necessary)
  
• If your victim asks you to leave them alone -- DO SO!
• Stop the harassment and ridiculous accusations
  
• BE ACCOUNTABLE!

PROBLEM IS, Victims: CYBERPATHS REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES. ANYTHING. YOU COULD BE HANGING FROM A ROPE AND THEY WOULD FIND A WAY TO BLAME YOU (like -- Lori Drew)

Remember - abuse happens in secret.

Beckstead is trying DESPERATELY to do damage control by posting articles his name appeared in every place he can. This pushes the posts about him down on Google. Beckstead hopes no one will scan past the first page or two -- that way he can say: "See, I'm a good guy!" All in an effort to counter the truth that he's an abusive, perverted online predator and to convince his new targets what a altruist he is.

Beckstead even went so far as to PHOTOSHOP pictures of himself to try to make himself look thinner (he's morbidly obese) and used a recent assignment to write about the war in Iraq (he was sent there to write) to tell potential prey he was "deployed" and imply he's an enlisted soldier. There's no crime in being fat but at least be honest. He's also filled his FACEBOOK account with old friends & friends-of-friends who all believe he's a nice guy and know nothing about his secret life; in attempt to clean up his image without any real apologies.

All we ask is these people submit to the same standards we have for our victims/targets: PROOF. Hard proof. (Funny how cyberpaths tend to think their 'words' are enough to rewrite truth and history) If we get this proof - we will of course retract and/or post rebuttals.

Like other abusers, the cyberpaths seem to have a 'script' of blame and excuses when they are exposed. Despite being miles or even countries apart, they all say basically the same things (or variations on a theme):

• [the victim] is lying/ made it all up
• [the victim] is psycho/ crazy
• [the victim] set me up
• [the victim] is obsessed with me
• [the victim] wants to ruin my life/ is the abusive one
• [the victim] runs EOPC just to harass ME
  
• [the victim] is cyberstalking/ stalking me / my family/ my friends
• I don't even know [the victim]
• [the victim] and EOPC have ruined my life; contacted my employer, friends (we never get involved with cases other than posting them with signed legal permission here. NEVER)
  
• I have hired a lawyer to deal with this (on Kristen Rhoad, one of Phil Haberman's victims - has hired a lawyer(s) or legal representative - and it seems Mr. Haberman filed false charges and is about to get a legal spanking for abusing the system)
• It never happened
• [The victim] is just jealous
• That was all planted, I never said that/ did that
• That is false, I am the victim here!
• They [the victim] abused ME!!
• I had to do something for relief. [The Victim] toyed with me/ tempted me.
• I am sorry - I have changed (while still having online affairs)
• [The victim] is just trying to ruin my life/ my happiness/ destroy my family or hurt my spouse.

There's also the extra special cyberpaths with instability and/or grandiosity problems that believe everything you say or post is somehow a message to them!

And we can't go without an extra special mention to: LORI DREW - the woman that drove a 13-year old named Megan Meier to suicide. Who, after a year of the law doing NOTHING - told Megan's mother (who lives 4 doors down) and who is fighting for justice for her dead daughter to:

"GIVE IT A REST"

Mrs. Drew - you have confirmed via your lawyer's statements: that were full of "poor me" and blame-shifting to your victim (a 13 year old victim) that you are mentally disordered. You have proved your cyberpathy - because you just did precisely what every other perverted predator here does: BLAME YOUR VICTIM!

Nathan Thomas (a.k.a. "T") asked one of Targets to please not "annoy him" once she found out. He also accused one of his many overlapping wives of CAUSING the problem because she DIDN'T STAND BY HIM (i.e. believe and support his lies). You used women for free sex, room, board - even MARRIED THEM and now you don't want them to "ANNOY YOU?"

Thomas has even gone as far as to tell a wife with whom he had an allegedly BIGAMOUS MARRIAGE that "the CIA and US Government" were going to be "mad at her" for questioning him! He'd tried to convince her he was a Special Ops Agent for the U.S. Thomas took off after that on a "secret mission" (NOT) and this wife hasn't seen him since!

Sick... just sick.

Dunetz/ YidwithLid (some simple web searches showed out he'd changed his nickname from Gridney to Yidwithlid and now calls himself Sammy Benoit) told Target #2 "if you love me you will leave me alone and let my wife heal" (wait! He'd told Target #2 he didn't love his wife anymore and loved only HER! So in 3 days - after getting caught - he totally changes his tune? REAL Love doesn't do that!)

Jeff Dunetz/ Yidwithlid told Target #1 "its over" and he would help get her children taken from her. Over? What's over? It never started!

Now he makes his victims out to be some sort of attack-bots.

To this day Dunetz (like all of them) still blames Target #1 only for exposing him to his job, his family, etc and implies all the hooker postings and ads for casual sex were 'planted' or 'made up' (forensic recovery by police has shown us they were from HIM, not planted or made up at all) - which we can say - she did not do.

It's too easy to say that victims are doing it for revenge. But often, they aren't! She felt compelled to go to police to protect her children - and look what happened: A $2million a year brothel ole Dunetz/ Yidwithlid was going to for about 3-4 years - was BUSTED!

Recently Yid With Lid went so far as to send a statement that this whole thing was because Target #1 was "jealous" that he wouldn't "bang" Target #1 because she is fat & ugly and (most hysterical) he "didn't want to hurt his wife." Very third grade. Obviously, the expensive hookers, phone sex and other women were of no consequence in hurting his wife. Despite him trying to tell everyone that his victims are jealous and planting it all.

from Dunetz's own "mouth":
I have 30 years in marketing. I already twist facts for a living.

from Yid's blog

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They all want victims to DROP it when THEY CAUSED PROFOUND TRAUMA TO THEIR TARGETS!

Victims:

Don't drop it! Your pain is not NOTHING!!

THE CYBERPATH FEELS ZERO RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE THEY HAVE USED & ABUSED! To them you're an object, just some words on a screen - not even real!

IN FACT, THEY BLAME THE VICTIM FOR TELLING!!

To make the point about how these predators have no feelings or feel the least bit sorry for what they do to you. Think about how they belittle, smear & blow you and your trauma off.

And yes, its trauma - make no mistake.

They can see or emphasize with THEIR pain (they are such MARTYRS!) but your pain, the pain they caused? According to them, you have no right to feel bad! Only a really personality disordered individual has SUCH A LACK OF EMPATHY.

Don't listen to them anymore! Don't listen to anyone telling you they're O.K. and you're bad for being traumatized and not "forgiving & forgetting." You KNOW BETTER!

Anyone (friends, family, counselors) telling you to "Move on" or "get over it" is further abusing you because:

EMOTIONAL RAPE IS A STATIC EVENT.

It is FROZEN in the psyche of any compassionate human being. Since friends, family and clueless doctors may have never been through this sort of thing; and predators have NO REAL FEELINGS - they see it as a blip on their radar. An inconvenience. To them.

Why do you think, victims - that Cyberpaths show so much scorn for you once you find them out?

BECAUSE NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH and TRUTH is the one thing they can't handle.

There's a difference between obsession and JUSTICE.

After THESE CYBERPATHS' START, ENCOURAGE and LEAD ON THE VICTIM and then toss them away like trash - traumatizing them; the only thing for victims to do is TELL. Telling is the first step towards HEALING!

(of course there's the predators who start outright SMEAR CAMPAIGNS against those who have found them out, exposed them or questioned them. Doing this is as unoriginal as the "scorned woman" accusation and we don't buy it either.)

And if your predator says they have "changed - turned over a new leaf" - "please leave me alone to get on with my life." If they have really changed? They will take the time - how ever long that takes (days, months, years) to talk things through with you - fully admit & acknowledge what they did to you and their spouses/ families and make amends.

If they tell you "my therapist says I can't talk to you" - kow that therapy has not caught up with this sort of interpersonal exploitation. That would be fine if you went into the online relationship knowing the truth IN THE FIRST PLACE. But you didn't.

They used you like an object, a thing, something they click off like the computer itself - and you deserve better. Besides, they are only using therapy as a COVER.

If they say "it will hurt/ upset my partner if I talk to you" find out exactly what they told their partner about you. Did they paint you as the bad one to get their a** out of the doghouse? Probably! If they say that they are still lying - to you, to their partner and themselves.

HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!

(there are cyberpaths, such as Clive, Doug Beckstead and Dorsky that have tried to erase their tracks and rewrite history but don't know much about web archives and data retrieval. NOTHING ever really disappears on the web.)

Charles Ed Hicks said, IN COURT - IN FRONT OF A JUDGE, after 2 of his ex wives testified against him and hard proof of his fraud and bigamy was entered into the record that it was "False, ALL FALSE" Rumor has it - he's writing a book to 'set the record straight.' Maybe O.J.'s publisher is interested? LOL

Did we mention after a year in jail for Bigamy, Hicks was recently tossed out by another woman in Charleston, S.C. and is back online using the name CHARLES HICKS, BILLY MATTHEWS or CHARLES GREENE? Trolling for his next victim?

Do you think they learn? change? NO! They just play on their next victim's compassion and willingness to believe in them.

Also the winner, by 98%, of the lines married predators (those that admit they are married) give to their victims:

My [spouse] is cold to me/ the marriage is dead/ won't have sex with me/ its over ...but I am staying because of the kids/ money and I don't love [my spouse] anymore... our marriage is only on paper....

It's so predictable that it's sad. Truly sad. As sad as the fact that to these predators, victims are merely objects to use.

And as we have said many many times - please at least Google or search on the person you are chatting with's name and nickname(s) and read EVERY PAGE OF ENTRIES THAT COMES UP. If they are pressing you for a meeting - we have links to background check agencies on the right and for a small fee you can find out everything you need to know.

If anyone tells you "if you do a check on me then you don't trust me/ love me" - DO THE CHECK ASAP! If you find them on a site warning you - BELIEVE IT. If they tell you "don't speak to so and so, they will lie about me or my relationship with them" or "she's a scorned woman" - SPEAK TO THAT OTHER PERSON ASAP AND GET THE TRUTH!!!!!

REMEMBER: People who are honest have nothing to hide.

MORE: VERBAL ATTACKS OF THE SOCIOPATH

Is Your Online Sweetheart Telling the Truth?

With so many people asking the same question - perhaps now is the time to closely examine how to tell if the person you are dealing with on the "net" is, in fact, the person they are purporting to be. But how? How do we determine this? If we come out and blatantly interrogate them, they will no doubt be offended. On the other hand, this micro-scrutiny may well be what we have to resort to - and in turn, we must be prepared to subject ourselves to the same. Still, a cunning and masterful liar will jump through any hoops to satisfy their goal - so, after some thought, I have put together, based on my own experiences and insights, a list of possible ways to determine if you are dealing with an Honest person.

Listen To Them!
I cannot stress enough the importance of really "listening" to the person you are dealing with. Of course, the notion of "listening" to someone's words on the screen is ridiculous - but if you consider that in the sense they are "speaking" to you - this makes perfect sense. Do they sound too good to be true? We'd all really like to believe the person we are coming to enjoy knowing and speaking with is exactly as they say they are. We want nothing more than to take them at face value. But reading these stories we find often that the real-deal is the exception rather than the rule. Read what they are writing - pin them down on "iffy" details - if they refuse to be pinned, or remain evasive, consider that a RED FLAG and proceed with caution!

Does it Make Sense?
What if you are left with questions that, in your mind, really don't make sense - but the person you are speaking with has a quick explanation. Ask yourself, more than once - is it really believable? For example - "I'd love to meet you soon.. but I have some details or personal matters to take care of first" should provide a RED FLAG. While none of us wants to pry or probe for information, we have to ask ourselves "what kind of personal details or matters are so important that preclude this person from being able to meet me?" Do you have to ask online permission first to call someone? If so, that is a good indication that the person you are dealing with isn't really "free" to meet you at all. Who else lives there? Is it possible the person you are dealing with is still married? While it is true that many people looking for love on-line may still be married, and dealing with the aftermath of terminating their marriages - it's important to establish this well in advance of involving yourself with someone else. Most people understand that often, marriages can take time to end - that doesn't make the person any less available, as long as you can clarify details, and this can be accomplished by calling them at their home (once you have established a comfortable rapport with each other and have exchanged phone numbers). Call when they aren't expecting your call - do they have an answering machine? Who's voice is on it? Are they secretive, do they speak in hushed tones or are they angry or upset that you called without notice? These are pretty good indications that your unexpected call was not as welcome as you would have liked. If this is the type of response your surprise phone call receives, be prepared for some fancy footwork from the other person when they finally do hook up with you, while they explain the reasons for their reaction. Fancy footwork usually involves weaving a tale that on it's surface - sounds plausible, but little else. Do it again! If your first surprise phone call wasn't as welcome as you would have liked, do it again! If you get the same kind of reaction - you can draw your own conclusions. Make these calls at different times. This does not mean harass anyone! But a couple of calls spread out over the span of a week or two certainly do not equal harassment. After all.. this is someone who is supposedly very interested in you.

Current Photos!
With the issue of dishonesty or deception as to the other person's actual weight or age clearly being one of the main issues of Honesty - how do we accomplish the goal of finding out if they're telling the truth? I won't begin to discuss the issues surrounding why weight, etc., is so important.. suffice it to say - if you're telling the truth about yourself, then it doesn't matter. On the other hand, if you want to base a relationship on dishonesty, and the person you are speaking with has a clear idea as to your weight - and you're lying - why do you think you deserve to have any kind of relationship at all? Often, people will try to put off that inevitable first meeting for as long as possible when they are being dishonest about weight. The logical thinking behind this is that for as long as they can delay this, they will make every effort to lose this weight. Of course, this is ludicrous on it's surface as weight loss takes a long time, and people who haven't started a diet aren't likely going to be able to manage substantial weight loss to their own satisfaction in this time frame. But how do you know what they Really look like? Old pictures often tell a thinner or younger story - and we can be stunned or shocked to go to meet the person in the old picture, and find the real person - who we didn't even recognize! There are no shortage of excuses for "why" people don't have current pictures.. "I don't have a scanner", "I don't have a camera", "I haven't gotten the pictures scanned yet", "I don't have time" .. Let's be real here. Any photocopy service in this day and age does photo scanning. They charge an average of $10 (and that's judging from prices of about a year ago) and it takes less than an hour. With the emergence on the marketplace of low-cost personal scanners, we all probably know someone who has a scanner. No current picture? Nobody to take one for you? Heck, there's no shortage of places you can get a picture taken. I once resorted to asking the guy at the store where I buy my bottled water to take my picture, handing him my polaroid. If you aren't being dishonest about yourself, chances are, you have a current picture or have the means to get one. How do we know if it's a current picture? That indeed seems to be the big question here. The best idea I had (and this is lame, I know) is to hold up the day's newspaper (not in front of you, but just off to the side). Sure, the actual date will be impossible to read - but the day's headline sure won't be hard to miss!

The Scammers!
When you read these stories, you'll see that indeed, it is possible now to meet up with someone who isn't interested in you at all, but rather what you can do for them or what they can take from you (money, sex, property...). Too bad they're there - until we can find a means to stop them, the best we can do is protect ourselves. How do you know if someone is out to "con" you? Let's look at the theory behind "cons" or "confidence" people. That's how they work isn't it? The put you at ease immediately, they agree with everything you say, they pour out undying and heartfelt emotions almost immediately. How is it possible?? How can they "love" you almost immediately without ever having met you? I've heard the lamest arguments on this point "well what about in the olden days with pony express? People met, fell in love and married that way all the time!" Uh huh.. hellooo! This is not the 1800s.. we have the means, we have the technology - why would ANYONE make this kind of argument to validate their feelings for someone else? If you defend that train of thought - I'll expect to see your story here sooner or later.

The fact is - "LOVE" is not possible without physically meeting someone or spending a lot of time in getting to know them IN PERSON and not in bed! I will not argue that infatuation is possible, or that feelings of joy, contentment and overwhelming desire are possible. But the "connection" between two people who have not met is not.

Why the rush to love? These people aren't going anywhere.. I can certainly understand the feelings of loneliness and the wonder and joy of being "in love" and having someone who "loves" you in return. It's Wonderful!! But.. it takes a bit of time. Anyone Who tells you they love you within the first 6-8 weeks or so of knowing you online is a liar! There, I've said it - it's out. Would you believe anyone who, in real life, told you they loved you if they'd just met you the week before? No way! Same rules apply here. NOT POSSIBLE. When and if you hear those three little words that mean so much, step back. Step back hard and tell them you are doing just that. If it's "real" or "true" love, it will last forever and stand the test of time, and they will respect that you question your feelings and thiers. If it's still "love" after a few weeks or a month - meet and meet soon!! You will know when you meet in person if what you felt online is what you feel for them in person.

Why Meet Soon? - Let's face it - the internet provides us several unique opportunities to meet a great number of people from one "site". Personals sites list several thousand people each - chat rooms give them the chance to interact - e-mail affords them the privacy to correspond with several people at once. If you have the means to meet people who live far away - wonderful! When you meet that "special someone" and you feel very strongly for them, and you believe that they are honest and genuine - meet them soon! Find out before you make emotional investments if they are the same in person as they were online. Spare yourself the agony of allowing yourself to "feel" for them online, to live for their letters, only to find out that you were not the only one, or that your online feelings did not translate "in real life" when you met them face to face and found out that really, the spark was not there. Be true to yourself, if you do not have the means to sustain a long distance relationship - don't pursue one. Yes, I know, you will have to make yourself wait longer to meet someone from a closer area, but too many have already invested heavily in trips they could ill afford only to find disappointment and deception on the other end. (and meet in a PUBLIC PLACE, tell at least 2 people where you are going and who you are meeting- maybe take one with you!! And if they PUSH for SEX right away because they "have to have you" - even if you have had cybersex online - FORGET IT!!! This is an online SEXUAL predator who probably has a few "special men or ladies" on their hook!!)

Background Checks - There are services that I have recently found - that cater especially to those of looking for love on the internet. They are extremely affordable - and for a minimal price - you can find out some things about the person you are becoming interested in - even if these aren't things you really wanted to know. Check them out (see the link in the right margin) - this is a good resource.

(from site owner) GOOGLE or MAMMA or DOGPILE THEM! - Use a couple search engines and search on their nickname and their real name. Zabasearch.com will come up with an address and possible true date of birth if you have a name and city/state. Scroll through and read ALL the hits - even if there's 22 pages of them. You'd be surprised what you might find on page 21. Use the links in our right margin too!

Summing Up - In Summary - I have addressed my thoughts on how to tell if people are honest. They include:

1. Listen to them! Watch for stories or aspects about them that sound "iffy" or evasive. Press them for details and stand firm if they try to lead the conversation away from those details!

2. Get a Current Photo! It's tough to ask someone to take a picture holding a newspaper - but if they are who they say they are - you need only explain to them you've "been there, done that" with others who were deceptive or dishonest - and you just really need to know, that it's not personal. If they take it personally, there is yet another RED FLAG for you to pay attention to!

3. Take Your Time! If they seem to have fallen in love with you almost immediately (without meeting you in person or within the first 5-6 weeks of knowing you) - Step Back!. Why are they telling you so soon that they love you? Why the rush to love? Sure, we all love being in love - but why the rush? If it's meant to be it will last forever. TAKE YOUR TIME! They aren't going anywhere and if they are, you should be worried anyway!

4. Meet Them Soon! Do not allow yourself to make a sizeable emotional investment in anyone that isn't able to meet you! People who delay or put off that first meeting, it would seem, have something to hide. Insist on meeting them within a month of meeting them online. Allow yourself that month to get to know them and determine if after that month, you still feel for them. Allow yourself the opportunity to meet them in person to see if it's really "love". Be kind to yourself. If they're the right person - nothing you could ask them would put them off. If they've spent any time on the net - they've had similar experiences and Should Be Asking The Same of You!! And if they're not - perhaps you should wonder why... (and don't go to meet them ALONE or in a motel/hotel!! Meet in an OPEN PUBLIC PLACE the first few times)

5. Background Checks - This is accessible to you - if you have ANY RED FLAGS - use the service above or one like it. You can be sorry for something you didn't do for a very long time - using common sense is something you'll never regret.

Original article HERE

The Downside of Telling A Cyberpath's Spouse/ Partner

While exposing a predator (or any cheater/ liar for that matter) can give YOU conceptual closure, bear the following things in mind while you plan how to do it:

What if the partner/spouse/job doesn't believe you.... but believes the lies and revisionist history of THE PREDATOR!!

• You could lose your job
• You could be accused of harassment or stalking
• You could be accused of a vendetta against the predator
• You could get a cease & desist order and/or Restraining Order filed against you
  

This is what the partner MIGHT do:

Tell YOU to stop pursuing their partner;

that the predator had already told them what a nutcase you are,

your attentions were not welcome and please stop trying to come between their relationship and/or start trouble in their family

Even if you can produce emails, instant message transcripts, letters, gifts, photos, etc as proof of the relationship. This is what might happen:

the partner/job can say they prove nothing. Predators are VERY GOOD LIARS & TALKERS!! Even if you have source codes saved on instant messages and emails... they can still tell themselves YOU MADE IT ALL UP. (however these are great things to have if you need to go to law enforcement for any reason - and make sure law enforcement makes a REPORT and ASK FOR A COPY OF THIS REPORT)

The Predator will also say YOU MADE IT ALL UP... or PLANTED IT...

And their partner can say "So what? I don't even have any way of knowing that what you are showing me really came from him/her. Maybe YOU planted them!" ...

The partner and the predator often call the police and make YOU out to be the bad one/stalker, etc. (or threaten to)

If there are other targets involved, rest assured the predator has ALREADY planted seeds in their brain saying:

• YOU are crazy
• YOU are obsessed with them
• YOU are just a 'scorned woman' or 'psycho ex'
• THE PREDATOR is/was just being nice to you - that's ALL
• YOU started the relationship
• YOU are mentally ill
• YOU are angry because he/she wouldn't sleep with you (even if they already did!)
  
• THE PREDATOR will blame your divorce/ breakups on the "fact" that YOU are imbalanced and none of your exes can stand being around you
• THE PREDATOR will blame any disability, illness you have because of them (including PTSD) on something else -- such as calling you "lazy" or "old" or "desperate for attention" or a "cheat" and so on...
  
• YOU are the predator here, not them!
• YOU invented everything
• YOU are trying to hurt their relationship(s) because you are jealous

Of course they have been so thorough that by the time you come on the picture with the truth - you are primed to appear the fool and your words have already been sprayed with the smell of fiction.

Predators are VERY convincing liars and can spin a tale or explanation so convincing that even if you don't totally believe it, you think you're crazy for doubting it because they said it with ABSOLUTE CONVICTION (cyberpaths often believe their own lies, since they are a type of sociopath - and behave the same way)

CLICK HERE FOR ANOTHER INFORMATIVE ARTICLE ABOUT THIS PROCESS

It is easy to believe because the partner/other targets WANT to believe... it's part of their manipulation & seduction. No one really wants to admit they've been used, cheated on, lied to, manipulated and disregarded and your entire relationship was fake, would you? Now think about if you were the spouse/ partner/ or other relationship....

It's easier to believe, even if the predator was caught red handed, that it's an isolated incident and will never happen again. Predators will often make all sorts of "shows" of accountability to save face with the family. Therapy, installing software for the partner, buying a new computer for the partner, etc etc. --- and believe us it IS all SHOW! Don't believe for a second that as soon as their partner calms down and they are sure their excuses have been 'swallowed whole' they will GO RIGHT BACK to things and trolling for new victims.

Denial often beats out the pain of realizing what the horrible truth really is or facing divorce or the dissolution of a family or partnership.

By the way? The cyberpath will FULLY EMBRACE the NO CONTACT rules laid down by their clueless partner, therapist, clergy or other targets. That means they will disappear on you - probably forever. Not having YOU and THE TRUTH in the picture makes it INFINITELY easier for them to spin their web of lies & deceit to those desperate to believe it. (While it usually sends your PTSD into high gear)

If they REALLY are sorry? They would TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH as well as sit down and give you face to face meetings - with WITNESSES.

And they would reframe their relationships with their partners, you and everyone else and allow for healing and truth across the board.

But don't hold your breath.

After a while, when you have been lied to non-stop by a predator nothing makes any sense any more and you have no real idea of how healthy people function, how normal relationships work, and what is and is not acceptable behavior.

Reality and normalcy really no longer exist after a long enough period of time living with a Narcissistic type psychopath, cyberpath & predator. How many times have you seen people on TV whose spouses or partners were arrested and they say "we have been together for 20 years and I HAD NO IDEA!!" We bet they DID have an idea but buried it.

When approaching a partner/other targets about the predator/cyberpath (or one of their friends and associates), you must remember that it makes perfect, logical sense to YOU, but to THEM, either nothing has made sense for SO long OR.... they have been fed so many lies and twists and become so bonded to the predator that there is no way on this earth that you can expect a reasonable, proportionate reaction to anything you have to say or tell them.

CLICK HERE FOR A GREAT ARTICLE ABOUT OTHERS "NOT GETTING IT"

The associates, friends & partners of predators, cyberpaths, narcissists, psychopaths have been so brainwashed and reprogrammed that all reason goes out the figurative window.

These predatory types are very good at covering their bases, asses, and tracks. NEVER for an instant forget that. They plan for things we wouldn't even think of because we are basically honest people that don't need to hide things.

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Think about it... now, from your standpoint, if someone showed you pictures of your partner's vehicle, with the plates in clear view and them getting into the car near something that definitely IDs it as someone else's residence, and then they claimed they were never there, you'd laugh in their face, right? Of course you would.

Because you're OUT of the relationship with that predator or liar and things make sense again. --- But what would you have done at the time? Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

That said, Telling the Truth is the best and strongest option. But choose how you want to do it. (see links at the right where Victims Speak Out about the smear the predator tells about them!)

Back up your plan and be ready for the above scenario. There are sites that deal with this sort of thing. Have hard & fast proof. Don't embellish. And be ready for the reaction.... whatever that may be.

This should NOT be revenge but it can be empowering, conceptual closure and a step towards your healing.

IN REVIEW: Cyber-Tantrums of Gary Stone

Seems Stone has learned a new word. Cyberpath. He calls his victim, her friends, EOPC and everyone else who sees his delusions for what they are a "Cyberpath." He's even trying to learn to use it in complete sentences. A real step forward for the pathological and or psychotic mind.

But it's all projection. Here's some of the narcissistic games Stone continues to try to play.

Accusing you
The best form of defense is attack and the narcissist knows this all too well. It is one of his most widely used weapons, but he is so good at handling it that you could actually not even realise what it is.

We are accustomed to accusations being blatant, ugly assertions about us and these we recognize with ease. It is the more insidious accusations that catch us off guard and make us lose our balance. The narcissist will use either or both, depending on his end objective.

If he is trying to rattle you, hurt you, undermine you or shock you, there is a good chance that he will come out with a blatant accusation. "You lied", "you stole", "you're a pervert", etc.

The reason that these are so effective is that instead of hooking defensive anger, they hook defensive guilt. A far more powerful behavior in someone that you wish to control.

He has effectively achieved a few things here: made you feel guilty so that he can now manipulate you, changed the subject completely, shifted focus fully back onto himself and made you the lesser person.
When it comes to angry projection though, we are dealing with an out and out bully. He is deliberately attacking you with the objective of achieving control through fear and anger. There is also a good chance that what he is really doing is maneuvering you into a conflict situation. This person wants to have a go at you, but wants to be able to blame you for it afterwards. By provoking an argument, he can achieve that quite nicely.
By the time that the fight finally ends... the chances are that you will not even remember that it all began with you trying to defend yourself against a wrongful and probably very ugly accusation. Even if you did remember, you'd be so exhausted by the awful fight that ensued that you'd be loath to go back and address it to set the record straight.
He has now achieved a number of things. He has intimidated you, he has manipulated you, he has emotionally drained you, he has effectively used you as a verbal and perhaps even physical punch bag and, he has controlled you and further empowered himself.
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Projecting
Closely linked to hurling accusations is the fine art of projecting.
Remember that you are their mirror. The things that they accuse you of are the things that apply to themselves.
While they think they are showing you how clever they are, they are in fact revealing themselves in a way that would make them cringe if they realised it. - For goodness sakes never tell them. They will furiously deny it and launch a massive attack against you. (For those of you who have been with EOPC for our 9 years online now, can we take bets as to how long Stone - like ALL our other Cyberpaths - will take to do this?? Or has he already??)While he thinks he is stunning you with his amazingly astute insights into the human psyche, he is in fact giving you a very clear blueprint of himself.

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Shifting blame
A common bully tactic. It goes right along with changing the subject and making accusations. As long as he can somehow make you believe that it was all your fault, he's off the hook and you're either left wondering what just hit you or you're falling over yourself (and him) to make it up to him. If you go for the latter option, there is a good chance that he will milk it for all it's worth.
It's not always your fault though. It could anyone or anything at all as long as it's not him.

If nobody in the situation is to blame, then there is no way to resolve the problem. If you are to blame, then you must fix it. As for him, he is just an innocent victim and utterly blameless, therefore unable to do anything at all to find a solution, but totally justified in being a sod.
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Being the Martyr
Narcissists almost make a career out of being victims. Ask any narcissist to tell you his story and you are bound to hear about the evil ex-wife, the ungrateful children, the idiotic and exploitative bosses, the crooked partner and every person who has been out to get them throughout their lives - which just about includes everyone they have ever encountered. Get involved with them and you will be the next addition to the list.
Then they get magnanimous and let you know how forgiving they are of all these people. Please realize that the so called forgiveness of a narcissist is a joke.

Somewhere they have read or heard that forgiveness is a nice human quality and that it makes you look like a nice, rational person who actually gives a hoot about others.

All that counts to them is the results they can get if they know how to effectively use these things.
They know that, "I love you" turns on your wishful thinking, forgiving nature or your guilt and gets them back in the door. The know that "I'm sorry" gets them forgiven and gives them license to do it all again. They know that their numerous excuses take the focus off them and get them off the hook.
For as long as he can make you feel guilty & sorry for him, he has you where he wants you.
If you have any respect at all for either of you, you have to stop this game in its tracks.

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Invoking fear and anxiety
Are you keeping secrets from your friends and family regarding your life with this person, perhaps even lying to them because you know that if he found out you had spoken about it there would be hell?
Do you feel as if you are walking on eggshells?
If you said yes to these, you are being ruled by fear. You are a victim of blatant abuse.
Ultimately this is one of their key strategies for maintaining control because as long as you are too scared to speak up, you have no voice. While you have no voice, you have no say. While you have no say, they can do exactly as they please and they can even legitimately claim that you never objected.
Silence is consent with any type of abuser and this is society's view as well. If you didn't object, it automatically means you gave consent. A prime example of this is with rape. When a woman claims rape, the first thing she will be asked is, "did you very clearly say no?" - the fact that there was a knife at her throat seems to not even feature in the equation. It's pretty sick, but this is a victim's reality.
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Putting you on the defensive
Nobody can do this as adeptly as a bully.
Accusations, real or imagined past offenses and personal criticism of you are their three favorite tools to this end. Anything to get you hopping and get the focus off themselves.
They also use questions that are skillfully worded and artfully delivered. They use facts that they distort ever so slightly so that they are hard to correct. They use skewed logic to turn a situation around from them being guilty to us being the cause.
Whichever specific tactic they use, the result is the same: we feel we have to explain, justify, correct and somehow prove our innocence and good intentions. Think for a moment how often you hear yourself saying, "but that's not what I meant", or "but I only meant ..."?
If they try to goad you, which is highly likely - they hate silent responses - revert to the techniques for setting boundaries. Refuse to engage and walk away.


ALL OF THE ABOVE & MORE AT THIS GREAT SITE

Let's Continue with his Victim's Story
Throughout 2007, Gary Stone adorned [Victim 1] with praise by email and text chat, and wrote her love songs and poetry. Gary Stone started making video clips of himself with his webcam and sending them to [Victim 1] before persuading [Victim 1] to upgrade from dial-up to broadband and buy herself a webcam so that they could do video calls on Skype. (Jacoby did this, Dunetz /Yidwithlid did this to all his victims, Dorsky did this... etc)

[Victim 1] missed the early clues to Gary Stone's litigiousness, although she spent hours every day sympathizing with his complaints about his lawsuit with his former employer. Gary Stone twisted the story into a huge conspiracy against him, and eventually found a lawyer willing to take his case (Stone is on his third lawyer). Gary Stone told [Victim 1] that he had been victimized and that she was his "sole source of comfort."Gary Stone also showed early signs of jealousy and sarcastic flippancy, cutting off communication with her several times over the course of the year, wrongly accusing her of text chatting with other men online, or not showing enough respect to his family, making her defend herself, and then 'taking her back', each time making her feel that she must try harder to please him. (almost ALL our exposed Cyberpaths did this or similar)

After each of these staged 'break ups/reconciliations' Gary Stone would regain [Victim 1]'s sympathy using pathos, saying things like 'my life is like being dragged over broken glass without you', and begging her never to leave him. Gary Stone expected [Victim 1] to be available to him every minute of every day, to the point where she was barely able to find time to go grocery shopping, and he demanded photos of any family social occasions she attended, to ensure she was not 'seeing other men'. (Remember Dorsky's victim saying he'd 'driven her to the point of exhaustion'?)

The excitement seeking in her that found the psychopath’s extraversion attractive is now hitting the wall and causing extreme emotional exhaustion...
The drama, the highs and lows, the daily power struggles, the weekly uncovering of some new lie and the constant fear of being abandoned are all now producing fatigue. A dichotomy exists between the excitement she still feels with him when the relationship is smooth (which is becoming less frequent) and the utter exhaustion that comes from being in a relationship with a psychopath.
The exhaustion can also come from not only the emotional roller coaster of life with a psychopath but also from the pacing of their lives together. Since many psychopaths need much less sleep than normal people, lack of sleep is likely to catch up with her. The psychopath consistently keeps her awake, demanding her company while he watches TV, picks fights, or wants marathon sex. Her diet, exercise, down-time, spiritual practices, and friendships all go by the wayside while her stress levels increase. The fast-pace contributes to a total deterioration in her health. Her physical exhaustion can greatly increase her emotional fatigability. She is now unable to hold her ground against the psychopath, and despite the exhaustion, she remains hypnotized, fixated on his extraverted, highly exciting persona.
The psychopath invested a lot in portraying himself to her as “wounded.” Many psychopaths played the “pity” trump card, using this card to attract and keep women based on sad stories. Psychopaths have no problem simultaneously playing both dominant and doomed personas. Likely, he acted as if the disclosure of his hidden pain was only to her. She was the only one who “understood him” or he felt “safe enough” to share his pain with. Even Ted Bundy feigned medical disorders to attract women to himself.

In emails, text chats and Skype calls, Gary Stone showed a penchant for escapism, role-playing the famous rock star and wannabe 'owner' of a fake music publishing company (Toylanders Press International - TPI), and kept saying he would set up a proper business with [Victim 1] one day.

[Victim 1] humored him and indulged him in what she thought was a little light-hearted, harmless fun, but it was actually cybersex. It was certainly a new experience for [Victim 1] and Gary Stone also claimed he'd never done it before, and there is no doubt that they were both willing participants. Although [Victim 1] is now highly embarrassed about it, it was only ever natural/ romantic/ loving scenarios, and nothing perverse was entered into. The kinkiest thing mentioned was Gary Stone's fetish for 'knees'. (almost ALL our exposed Cyberpaths did this or similar)
As a Registered Nurse, Gary Stone also showed great interest in [Victim 1]'s rare post-natal condition, which requires her to take medication several times daily to replace the a hormone which manages stress. (some victims DEVELOP this condition after a relationship with a pathological!) Gary Stone got her to keep a daily chart of her blood pressure and medication, and asked her to email it to him so that he could monitor her condition, believing he could give her better advice than her own endocrinologist. Gary Stone also constantly reminded [Victim 1] that she owed her own life, and her child's life, to him because he recommended that she insist on obtaining antibiotics for strep throat.

Demanding reward

I love this one. He beats you every day, whether verbally or physically, hurts you, ignores you, undermines you and treats you like dirt, then on the odd day in between when he is nice to you, he expects you to grovel in gratitude.

Why should we reward someone for doing what they should have been doing in the first place? Why must every kind or decent act demand a reciprocal favour? Does this sound like a healthy relationship? I think not.

Decency should be the rule, not the exception. To reward the odd good behaviours of an abuser is to tell them that their abuse is an accepted norm and that decency is considered to be "going the extra mile".

This is utter garbage and totally twisted thinking.

This is right up there with the victim apologising to the abuser. "Oh honey, I am so sorry that I made you hit me. I'll really try to do better next time, be more understanding, less demanding and not provoke you".

I recall as a child how many times my dad would tell me that his hitting me hurt him more than it hurt me. What a load of crock. Now suddenly, on top of having to nurse my bruised behind and broken heart, I also had the guilty responsibility for his supposed pain.

Like I said. Twisted. It is a game that they love though and if you fall for it you have given away the last of your possible defences. Do not reward behaviours that should be normal and to which you are entitled on a daily basis.

Another of Gary Stone's pathological machinations is trying to increase his humane, solid-citizen, altruist fake-persona is by taking countless IQ tests, and he never misses an opportunity to boast that he has gained access to one high-IQ society. He now regularly reminds [Victim 1]'s ex-husband that he 'should not have f**ked with someone with an IQ'. (Most psychopaths test very very high in I.Q. -- but then they neglect to be tested for their stunning pathology, LOL! And we can't think of one who isn't VERY involved with a local charity, school, religious institution or community project simply to keep that "I'M A WONDERFUL PERSON" personna going!)

Gary Stone tried to visit [Victim 1] in June 2007, and he sent her money to cover the cost of the flight, which he got her to purchase for him. But Gary Stone was denied entry to the UK on arrival, and immediately deported to the US. [Victim 1] was devastated, but Gary Stone's typical pathological response was to blame her for 'tipping off' Immigration about HIS criminal record and his being fired for harassment/ insubordination.
 
Gary Stone told [Victim 1] that she should have invented a story and told Immigration that he was her cousin in order to get him into the country. Gary Stone also accused [Victim 1] of plotting to steal the monies he had insisted on sending her for his vacation spending money, even though she returned this to him immediately by personal check.

Love-bombed & hypnotized by Stone, [Victim 1] spent the rest of 2007 defending Gary Stone and trying unsuccessfully to clear his name. Then, during [Victim 1]'s week vacation together in August 2007 in the US, Gary Stone said he had given up on his plan to move to the UK because he needed to stay closer to his family, and persuaded [Victim 1] to give up her home to move to the US.

Although Gary Stone had paid some money towards [Victim 1]'s vacation air fares, she was now in debt because Gary Stone had not covered the cost of the whole vacation. [Victim 1]'s ex-husband was also about to give his consent to take their child to live in the US, but Gary Stone wrote her ex-husband his first offensive email, which gave him cause for concern about how Gary Stone might treat the child.

[Victim 1] therefore had to pay legal fees to draw up an agreement in order to obtain her ex-husband's formal consent to take their child to live in the US. [Victim 1] also paid for air fares for herself and her child to move to the US and had no option but to sell her only asset - her small home - in order to cover the costs of the move.

Gary Stone spent many hours online with [Victim 1] window-shopping for properties she could buy in the US with the proceeds from her property. Even before it was sold, Gary Stone got [Victim 1] to transfer money to his bank to cover the deposit and first month's rent on an apartment they jointly leased, plus some Christmas gifts for [Victim 1]'s child. [Victim 1] confided to Gary Stone that she felt very apprehensive about going through such an enormous upheaval in her life, but Gary Stone assured her that his priority would be to make her feel secure once she was with him.

[Victim 1] arrived in the US in December 2007, but Gary Stone kept making excuses for not getting divorced, spending his days with his wife and his nights with [Victim 1]. First he said he must wait until his wife signed a Separation Agreement, then he said he needed to find a job first, then he said he had to wait for 'tax reasons', then he said he wanted to wait until his wife came to terms with their relationship 'maybe after they had lived together for a year'. (almost ALL our exposed Cyberpaths did this or lied outright about their marriages or being divorced)

In the meantime, Gary Stone told [Victim 1] that his wife wanted to kill her, and made [Victim 1] terrified of being attacked by her. Gary Stone had sent [Victim 1] pictures of his wife and she is a formidable woman who never smiled in photos. (Who would -- married to this guy? Stone may have carefully selected photos to show her in that light. She's probably a very nice person, like all the wives of these guys. Who knows what HE was telling his wife; that [Victim 1] wanted to kill her?)

It should be noted that, although Gary Stone and [Victim 1] were intimate during their short time together, they always slept in separate bedrooms. [Victim 1] understood this was because Gary Stone was embarrassed about the cysts all over his body and other physical abnormalities. However, when she came to do their laundry, she discovered the real reason was that Gary Stone's bowel problem resulted in explosive diarrhea stains being sprayed all over his underwear and the bed linen.

Gary Stone kept calling [Victim 1] by the nickname 'Kinky', and showed her a huge gallery on his laptop, containing hundreds of screenshots of her cleavage which he had captured on Skype without her consent and carefully labelled with titles such as 'Ample', 'Very Ample', 'Voluptuous' etc. (Like Jacoby - Stone may have taken these screenshots WITHOUT her knowledge or consent)

Gary Stone gave [Victim 1] a camcorder and said he wanted to use it to record her as 'Kinky in the Kitchen'. Gary Stone also expected [Victim 1] to work for nothing for his non-existent company, while using her money to support him. When [Victim 1] said that the situation was unfair, especially to her child, he turned very hostile, accused [Victim 1] of cheating on him, and ordered her to go back to the UK in January 2008. (What they say GOES, or ELSE!)

[Victim 1] managed to make flight reservations, and departed with her child the very next day. Gary Stone made [Victim 1] pay all return air fares and settle the lease cancellation bill. (The only refund that Gary Stone paid to [Victim 1] was an unsolicited Paypal transfer of maybe 1/10th of what she spent in January 2007 for the bed she had bought him as a birthday gift in October 2007.)
[Victim 1] arrived back in the UK in January 2008 in shock, financially devastated, and homeless - all because of Gary Stone - but she was still trauma bonded to him, so she continued to exchange emails with Gary Stone for a few weeks.

Now openly living and siding with his wife, Gary Stone became increasingly abusive to [Victim 1] for withdrawing permission to publish her works, and for not complying with his demand to sign a 'mea culpa' to say that SHE was the cause of his dysfunctional family, his financial problems and his inability to find work for over a year. Gary Stone phoned [Victim 1] on her cell phone, and her sister-in-law heard his torrent of abuse before he shouted, 'You should go to f**king church!' and slammed down the phone.

[Victim 1] finally drew the line when Gary Stone's wife sent her an abusive email, and Gary Stone began copying his abusive emails to his friends and cousin. In February 2008 [Victim 1] sent her final email, making it clear to Gary Stone that she wanted him to stop harassing her and stay out of her life.
Instead of leaving her alone, knowing that stress could be life-threatening to [Victim 1], Gary Stone has recommended that she 'double her dose' of medicine before reading his emails.

Gary Stone has sent [Victim 1] over 2500 abusive emails, which have often arrived at a rate of up to 30 per day. In these emails, Gary Stone smears [Victim 1] as a 'c**t', 'bitch', 'cow', 'whore', 'witch', 'HPV infected Q**m', 'Serial Home-wrecker', etc. (Sounds like this Cyberpath's not-so-anonymous stuff)

Gary Stone has also sent [Victim 1] pornographic material which she NEVER asked for (in violation of U.S. Federal law), threatened her family, and cyberstalked her around the Internet, bad-mouthing her in (and getting himself banned from) countless blogs and forums (e.g. Betapet, Soundclick, Lulu, Tripod).

Gary Stone's phone calls to [Victim 1]'s cell phone were rejected and subsequently the cellphone had to be cancelled. Gary Stone has accused [Victim 1] of causing his brother's death (from kidney failure), and of causing Gary Stone's glaucoma.

Gary Stone may have allegedly committed Felony slander by sending emails alleging having contracted venereal diseases from [Victim 1] in his fanasty that he will be able to subpoena her medical records and use the court system to stalk & harrass her.
Gary Stone has written countless reports to third parties and government agencies wrongly accusing her of fraud, obstruction of justice and innumerable wild conspiracy theories as he dreams them up; challenging [Victim 1] to get a lawyer and defend herself. His assertion is that [Victim 1] 'does not need to have actually done anything wrong' for him to force others to investigate her. (Stone has that fantasy about a lot of people)
Gary Stone wants, craves and obsesses over his fantasized 'day in court' where he can be the center of attention. Gary Stone has actually sent scripts to [Victim 1] and her ex-husband detailing how he envisions himself cross-examining them in court.

It should be noted that [Victim 1] and her ex-husband have never been in any trouble with the law or engaged in frivolous ligitation and both are dedicated to the well-being of their child. (Just like ALL our victims... decent, innocent and upstanding citizens taken advantage of by a pathological. )
Gary Stone has tried to alienate [Victim 1] from her family by claiming that her brother had phoned Gary Stone's wife and informed her that [Victim 1] had a history of targeting married men and breaking up families. This is an patent lie. The truth is that [Victim 1] had told Gary Stone early in their relationship that her first husband had been married with children, and that she had spent over 7 years with him before they divorced on the grounds of his unreasonable behavior (he was convicted of causing Actual Bodily Harm to [Victim 1]), and she has had no further contact with him. (almost ALL our married Cyberpaths make these SAME EXACT CLAIMS or TWIST what someone tells them)

[Victim 1] has never 'targeted married men' or 'broken up families'. [Victim 1]'s second marriage, 12 years later, was her only other serious relationship; they had a child together but were divorced because they had lived apart for over 2 years. [Victim 1] had not been involved with any other men until Gary Stone came into her life. (ALL our victims targeted by married Cyberpaths are upstanding, decent people with zero criminal records whatsoever.)

Pathologicals believe their mere words can 'create reality' and it only sets off the victim to try to correct the record - which is what the predator wants. To UPSET & HURT them. Don't worry -- most professionals see through this pretty quickly.)


Gary Stone drafted a book of some 100 pages, telling his twisted version of events, and circulated it to [Victim 1]'s friends in the discussion group where they met, before changing the names and trying to sell it as thinly-disguised 'fiction' at various websites (e.g. Lulu, PayLoadz), in the full knowledge that the level of personal information is sufficient to identify [Victim 1], her ex-husband and their child and place them in harm's way by so doing.

Gary Stone includes images of [Victim 1]'s cleavage which he captured with software from [Victim 1]'s WEBCAM without her knowledge during their Skype calls. *It should be noted that personal webcam footage belongs to the owner of the webcam, NOT to the recipient who captures it, and that for the recipient to publish such footage is a breach of both Copyright and Privacy laws. This is a Federal charge of computer invasion or trespass.

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Stone wants BADLY to believe he is special and unique. ALL Cyberpaths & Pathologicals do. Truth is they are so alike it's scary. Below is from Stone's website -- where HE calls the shots and HE creates the 'reality', about EOPC:

Elaine May Smithand her vigilantes EOPC: in order to validate themselves have to attack me. In 2011 they chose to bring back a story that was proved entirely false in 2009. Bringing that story back has revealed even more of their flawed character. in fact the nature of it is criminal. The main menu is here: http://thetoylanders.blogspot.com/2013/01/exposing-cyberpaths-predators-barbara.html .These pages are a response to their attacks on me.

We never saw any evidence of this story being false.  Including Stone's behavior validating everything his victims said about him If you want to see more of Stone's WORD SALAD &; bizarre accusations about EOPC and his victim in general - go here. He's CLOSED COMMENTS.  Every time they say they are "defending themselves" they just dig themselves in deeper and prove their own pathology further. Stone even wrote back one of his victim's supporters:

From: Gary Stone/ backbeatone@gmail.com
IP: 24.218.247.216
Subject: thks for you input
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:00 AM

This webpage exists, to counter defamation, and sexual harassment, thanks
Gary
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The way he replies to himself on his website makes him sound as if he is hallucinating! He will only believe people who TELL HIM WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR! Don't confuse Stone with reality or the truth.

Stone even says one old poster, G Nicholson, wrote him telling Stone he "thinks we're crazy too."  Interesting since we have emails from this same person thanking us for all our support and hard work.  Seems Stones sees, hears and believes only what he wants to.

All these Cyberpaths ought to start an online support group -- because they're the only ones who would listen or believe each other's baloney anymore.

• Remember how Hicks swore he was going to "sue all the websites, Dr. Phil, The Washington Post, the Virginia DA and write a book to tell the truth"? (He needs to talk to O.J. about that. And it's been a few years that Hicks is still singing this tired song; and changing his name many many times -- and NO lawsuit or book. hhmmm...)
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• Remember Jacoby trying to make up websites "showing" how one of his hapless victims was "lying" until it was 'pointed out to him' that he was skating into a Federal felony?
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• And Dorsky thinking we were a bunch of kids on some social networking site and he was going to 'call the Mashpee Police on' us? (We told him to go ahead while we contacted law enforcement contacts with evidence of his grooming a minor.)
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• An example in the news - CLICK HERE
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• Stone's latest conspiracy theory on his blog shows he clearly ego-surfs himself constantly, as he has found a link to a post made by "Gary Stone, Peabody, MA" in March 2007 (19 months before EOPC exposure):
  http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2007/03/form...

  "I believe. I too experienced seeing UFO last march in upstate Minnesota. It was both frightful and awe inspiring. It changed me forever"
  Posted By Gary Stone, Peabody, MA : 4:24 PM ET"

  Stone says he has sent emails complaints to Government ministers telling them that one of his victims must have posted this to make him look bad... even before they knew Stone or his name! And that he knows who runs EOPC (he has not gotten it right yet)  Pure projection. He's not just wrong; he's so off base it's laughable.
  

The list goes on & on & on & on... If cyberpaths would BOTHER looking at the other posts and then over to the right of this site -- that whole LONG list of Cyberpaths & Predators whose victims come to us for support & validation to offer their tales as education & warning to others; they'd realize they're not only not special... they're common, unimaginative and repetitive.

Some of Stone's recent rantings since this was reposted:
________________

Gary Stone

backbeatone@gmail.com

The fbi and dwp will be following along to.,,Lets do it again.
--
http://hubpages.com/profile/The+Toylanders

http://www.ilike.com/artist/The+Toylanders

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From: Gary Stone backbeatone@gmail.com To: CONTACT-US

A note to British authorities who have received my information on XXXXX's welfare fraud. I would like you to follow along with my argument with this group at their blog: Http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com

I would like you also to follow my rebuttal as they have seen fit to fight XXX's battles for her. Actually, they are behind the current XXX harassment page. (WHAT PAGE IS HE TALKING ABOUT????)

- they have a well documented history advocating for this kind of thing. (REALLY???)
My answers to them will be here. http://garystonepeabody.blogspot.com

I have asked Elaine and your authorities to do something about her soundclick harassment, now it has moved to face book, and this is just the cyberpaths blog (HUH???)
old nonsense rehashed. It will only be me fighting them initially, but I would like you to observe how they operate. And I invite you to check my facts as you surely have access to XXX's primary motives: welfare fraud reports.
Thanks

I don't think they will fare well. even tho it is just me they are fighting. It was XXXX who chose this fight, and invite every legal authority to witness it.
realize please that XXX has a huge gang, and this fight only involves me...
they will play down and dirty because that is what they are - filth.
Gary Stone

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Number of Entries: 11 (7 this visit) Entry Page Time: 06:49:22 AM Visit Length: 13 hours 23 mins 54 secs Browser: Chrome 14.0 OS: WinXP Resolution: 1024x768

Total Visits: 7 Location: Peabody, Massachusetts, United States IP Address: Comcast Cable (24.91.126.195) Referring URL: (No referring link) Entry Page: cyberpaths.blogspot.com/ Exit Page: cyberpaths.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-on-cyber-tantrums-of-cyberpath.html

From Stone:

I believe fighter has contacted my employer, as well. (NO WE DIDN'T. WE DON'T KNOW WHO HIS EMPLOYER WAS NOR DO WE CARE NOR DO WE CONTACT PEOPLE OVERSEAS. WE DO NOT GET PERSONALLY INVOLVED) There is a comment on his blog that has been removed (but still exists on XXXX’s server she may remove it too, but I have a photo of it, and will put it here. She got html from cyberpath’s blog, and put it XXX

That statement (below) was made by somebody familiar with my job responsibilities, the IP of the poster would prove it. Now that the post has been removed from Cyberpaths blog,

(We never removed anything.)
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More of Stone's "Everyone's Out to Get Me" Lunatic Ravings (If Toylanders is allegedly a music publishing company, a lot its of time is spent ranting about conspiracy theories against him. He has been harassing EOPC for almost 5 years and people he thinks are EOPC - no matter how many times he's told he is incorrect. He hangs on like a pitbull.) Stone desperately wants attention but he's incomprehensible.

And a comment we got on the very first post on Stone from a Massachusetts Comcast Internet address (24.218.232.171)

I have spent some time around sociopaths. In their work you usually find them in positions of power and have control over subordinates.

Take for instance Gary Stone, he was a registered nurse and for many years the night manager. He had control over the nurses under him and god like control over his patients.

This was enough to satiate his sociopathy and allow him to lead a near normal life away from his job. That is until he lost his job, he scrambled for a few months before meeting the above victim and as the story above reads, you do not need to guess the outcome.

Sociopaths can be found in all lines of work, military, law enforcement, civil service, corporate management and small business owners but more or less in a structured environment to which the sociopath will play to their advantage.

Until, they loose their jobs or retire, then all hell breaks out and woo unto the first victim they latch onto. In my opinion the above expose and continued releases will in a sense become his new victim. It will allow him to analyze in great detail every word of each sentence and give him something to do with his time. His time, wasted as it is will be spent refuting the expose and using it as a stick to beat his victim with.

Great work EOPC! keep it up. I can’t wait to see the next installment.

(This above poster seems to be on to something! And the statement about him latching onto EOPC as the next target of his rage - spot on.)


Stone claims EOPC uses proxies and hacks. We do not do either. He claims a few old members of our support group run this site. We have told him repeatedly they do not. So he is slandering and smearing these people in his "I can smear too" stance. We post stories given to us by victims of cyberpaths with full legal permission from these victims. These victims take full, legal responsibility for their story. Other than giving these victims a voice, we can not and do not have the capabilities to get involved. Stone is paranoid and self-involved to point of thinking we are 'out to get him.' He keeps using proxies to read our site. We had blocked him in hopes that he would move on with his life instead of inventing more plots against him.

Some of Stone's Proxies (reported to us)
Chelyabinsk, Russian Federation 217.118.83.156
Kirov, Russian Federation 89.254.227.183; 89.254.210.38
Kirovo-chepetsk, Kirov, Russian Federation 94.241.222.108
Kirov, Russian Federation 94.241.192.171
Kirov, Russian Federation 94.241.244.90 
Chisinau, Moldova, Republic of   89.149.115.19


These days unemployed Stone is spending thousands of hours a year reading, re-reading, and RE-reading the same posts. Searching desperately for any reason to fabricate more plots against him or 'secret messages' we are sending him from some article one of the EOPC Team posted; or rewriting and rehashing his expose and his 'facts'.

The only one keeping everything going - is GARY STONE.

Poor poor Gary Stone...




We save our compassion for the victims.