OH THE THINGS CYBERPATHS SAY!

OH, THE THINGS CYBERPATHS SAY!

Just a few words about the reactions of online predators we have profiled or those we have helped to expose behind the scenes of this blog.


In the time this blog has been up and running - we have only heard from ONE online predator who threatened us directly with legal action. We welcomed it since we had done nothing wrong and could back up everything we had. (this is the reason for our stringent rules for exposure) Of course, this Cyberpath dropped the whole thing.

Brad Dorsky, who threatened us, seemed to think he was dealing with a bunch of vindictive teenagers on a social networking site - he thought wrong. Mr. Dorsky said he was going to his local police - we told him to please feel free as we would be happy to speak to the FBI about his contacting someone out of the country and grooming her until she was no longer a minor to talk about violent sexual acts online with her that traumatized her. (Cyberpaths love to see how far they can push you after they have brainwashed you).

Mr. Dorsky later had a friend of his write to us - wanting to know who we were, who gave us the information about them and tell us Dorsky was 'a good person.' We did not give out the name of the person who gave us the information. We are happy to post rebuttals or clarifying information.

Also, we encouraged him to seek counseling for the way he had treated his victims and even offered to help him find a counselor in their area. We never heard from him again; nor did we remove any of the postings. hhmmmm......
We have reports of cyberpaths filing restraining or cease & desist orders or DMCA Takedowns on their victims to turn it around make themselves or their families look like the hurt party. Some, we guess, have enough money to drag all their victims to court and blame them for not controlling the whole internet. Most times - they have taken doctored or 'selective' information to law enforcement to get these orders. Law enforcement is often SHOCKED when they find out they have been lied to by these seemingly 'upright citizens.'
Sheer stupidity. All to support lies.

None of the ones we know have resulted in much of anything (other than the emotional trauma) legally for the victims. All have been dropped.


- We had one cyberpath, Steven Langley Guy, write us as his EX WIFE and that "he" had tried to commit suicide because we called him 'a predator.' (why would an EX-WIFE be using his computer?? and he IS a predator)
- Then Mr. Guy wrote that he was hiring a lawyer (many of them SAY this, virtually none of them really do it!!)
- And finally - "he" wrote as the person who exposed him begging us to remove him.

ALL FROM THE SAME IP NUMBER.
These predators really think we're that stupid?

EOPC asked him for the same "proof" we ask from those who turn this information over to us. To date - NO ONE EXPOSED HERE has been able to show us any hard proof that anything we have posted here was false or fabricated. These cyberpaths and all others remain on our site.

We can see that our cyberpaths come to this blog, searching for who is here - who posted against them. Some even search all the defamation and free speech links for some loophole. (Keith Clive , Dan Jacoby, Doug Beckstead and others, come here using anonymous proxies thinking we don't notice, LOL) Oh yes, some DO even try to change their location, their IPs or use anonymous proxies. Nice try!

Dan Jacoby has been having his board-owner buddies write and threaten us and then post things about EOPC as "that horrible site" for outing his new identities. Jacoby & his proxies "Do Protest Too Much." We would guess that his exposure cut into his preying grounds. Jacoby has also made no attempt at restitution for the things he duped out of one of his victims.

To all you cyberpaths; How about expending that energy you are using on your smear campaigns & attempts to re-write history instead: on making amends & talking it out with those you harmed, or in your own offline lives -- as well as getting yourselves therapy - in short: be an honest human being who doesn't use & abuse people.

• Don't just cut them off when YOU Get caught!!
• Genuinely Apologize. (Make financial restitution where necessary)
• If your victim asks you to leave them alone -- DO SO!
• For some: Reframe the relationship and talk about what happened. Not a shouting match because the victim won't buy into your "version" of things. REALITY TALK.
• BE ACCOUNTABLE!

PROBLEM IS, Victims: CYBERPATHS REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES. ANYTHING. YOU COULD BE HANGING FROM A ROPE AND THEY WOULD FIND A WAY TO BLAME YOU (like -- Lori Drew)
Remember - abuse happens in secret.

Beckstead is trying DESPERATELY to do damage control by posting articles his name appeared in every place he can. This pushes the posts about him down on Google. Beckstead hopes no one will scan past the first page or two -- that way he can say: "See, I'm a good guy!" All in an effort to counter the truth that he's an abusive, perverted online predator and to convince his new targets what a altruist he is.

Beckstead even went so far as to PHOTOSHOP pictures of himself to try to make himself look thinner (he's morbidly obese) and used a recent assignment to write about the war in Iraq (he was sent there to write) to tell potential prey he was "deployed" and imply he's an enlisted soldier. There's no crime in being fat but at least be honest. He's also filled his FACEBOOK account with old friends & friends-of-friends who all believe he's a nice guy and know nothing about his secret life; in attempt to clean up his image without any real apologies.

All we ask is these people submit to the same standards we have for our victims/targets: PROOF. Hard proof. (Funny how cyberpaths tend to think their 'words' are enough to rewrite truth and history) If we get this proof - we will of course retract and/or post rebuttals.


Like other abusers, the cyberpaths seem to have a 'script' of blame and excuses when they are exposed. Despite being miles or even countries apart, they all say basically the same things (or variations on a theme):

[the victim] is lying/ made it all up

[the victim] is psycho/ crazy

[the victim] set me up

[the victim] is obsessed with me

[the victim] wants to ruin my life/ is the abusive one

[the victim] is cyberstalking/ stalking me / my family/ my friends

I don't even know [the victim]

I have hired a lawyer to deal with this (on Kristen Rhoad, one of Phil Haberman's victims - has hired a lawyer(s) or legal representative - and it seems Mr. Haberman filed false charges and is about to get a legal spanking for abusing the system)

It never happened

[The victim] is just jealous

That was all planted, I never said that/ did that

That is false, I am the victim here!They [the victim] abused ME!!

I had to do something for relief. [The Victim] toyed with me/ tempted me.

I am sorry - I have changed (while still having online affairs)

[The victim] is just trying to ruin my life/ my happiness/ destroy my family or hurt my spouse.


And we can't go without an extra special mention to: LORI DREW - the woman that drove a 13-year old named Megan Meier to suicide. Who, after a year of the law doing NOTHING - told Megan's mother (who lives 4 doors down) and who is fighting for justice for her dead daughter to:

"GIVE IT A REST"

Mrs. Drew - you have confirmed via your lawyer's statements: that were full of "poor me" and blame-shifting to your victim (a 13 year old victim) that you are mentally disordered. You have proved your cyberpathy - because you just did precisely what every other perverted predator here does: BLAME YOUR VICTIM!
Nathan Thomas (a.k.a. "T") asked one of Targets to please not "annoy him" once she found out. He also accused one of his many overlapping wives of CAUSING the problem because she DIDN'T STAND BY HIM (i.e. believe and support his lies). You used women for free sex, room, board - even MARRIED THEM and now you don't want them to "ANNOY YOU?"

Thomas has even gone as far as to tell a wife with whom he had an allegedly BIGAMOUS MARRIAGE that "the CIA and US Government" were going to be "mad at her" for questioning him! He'd tried to convince her he was a Special Ops Agent for the U.S. Thomas took off after that on a "secret mission" (NOT) and this wife hasn't seen him since!

Sick... just sick.
Dunetz/ YidwithLid (some simple web searches showed out he'd changed his nickname from Gridney to Yidwithlid and the Sammy Benoit before going back to his real name) told Target #2 "if you love me you will leave me alone and let my wife heal" (wait! He'd told Target #2 he didn't love his wife anymore and loved only HER! So in 3 days - after getting caught - he totally changes his tune? REAL Love doesn't do that!)

Jeff Dunetz/ Yidwithlid told Target #1 "its over" and he would help get her children taken from her (which made her go to police... the rest is history). Over? What's over? It never started!

Now he makes his victims out to be some sort of attack-bots.

To this day Dunetz (like all of them) still blames Target #1 only for exposing him to his job, his family, etc and implies all the hooker postings and ads for casual sex were 'planted' or 'made up' (forensic recovery has shown us they were from HIM, not planted or made up at all!) - which we can say - she did NOT do.

She (like many of our victims) only told his wife in the hopes his wife would HELP him break his sex addiction and exploitation of women. It's too easy to believe women like this are doing it for revenge. But often, they aren't! She felt compelled to go to police to protect her children - and look what happened! A $2million a year brothel ole Dunetz/ Yidwithlid was going to for about 3-4 years - was BUSTED!
Recently Yid With Lid went so far as to send a statement that this whole thing was because Target #1 was "jealous" that he wouldn't "bang" Target #1 because she is fat & ugly and (most hysterical) he "didn't want to hurt his wife." Very third grade. Obviously, the expensive hookers, phone sex and other women were of no consequence in hurting his wife. Despite him trying to tell everyone that his victims are jealous and planting it all.

from Dunetz's own "mouth":
I have 30 years in marketing. I already twist facts for a living.from Yid's blog

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They all want victims to DROP it when THEY CAUSED PROFOUND TRAUMA TO THEIR TARGETS!

Victims:

Don't drop it! Your pain is not NOTHING!!

THE CYBERPATH FEELS ZERO RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE THEY HAVE USED & ABUSED! To them you're an object, just some words on a screen - not even real!

IN FACT, THEY BLAME THE VICTIM FOR TELLING!!
To make the point about how these predators have no feelings or feel the least bit sorry for what they do to you. Think about how they belittle, smear & blow you and your trauma off.

And yes, its trauma - make no mistake.

They can see or emphasize with THEIR pain (they are such MARTYRS!) but your pain, the pain they caused? According to them, you have no right to feel bad! Only a really personality disordered individual has SUCH A LACK OF EMPATHY.

Don't listen to them anymore! Don't listen to anyone telling you they're O.K. and you're bad for being traumatized and not "forgiving & forgetting." You KNOW BETTER!

Anyone (friends, family, counselors) telling you to "Move on" or "get over it" is further abusing you because:

EMOTIONAL RAPE IS A STATIC EVENT.

It is FROZEN in the psyche of any compassionate human being. Since friends, family and clueless doctors may have never been through this sort of thing; and predators have NO REAL FEELINGS - they see it as a blip on their radar. An inconvenience. To them.

Why do you think, victims - that Cyberpaths show so much scorn for you once you find them out?

BECAUSE NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH and TRUTH is the one thing they can't handle.

There's a huge difference between obsession and JUSTICE.

After THESE CYBERPATHS' START, ENCOURAGE and LEAD ON THE VICTIM and then toss them away like trash - traumatizing them; the only thing for victims to do is TELL. Telling is the first step towards HEALING!

(of course there's the predators who start outright SMEAR CAMPAIGNS against those who have found them out, exposed them or questioned them. Doing this is as unoriginal as the "scorned woman" accusation and we don't buy it either.)

And if your predator says they have "changed - turned over a new leaf" - "please leave me alone to get on with my life"? HOW DARE THEY!

If they have really changed? They will take the time - how ever long that takes (days, months, years) to talk things through with you - admit & acknowledge what they did and make amends.

If they tell you "my therapist says I can't talk to you" - therapy has not caught up with this sort of interpersonal exploitation. That would be fine if you went into the online relationship knowing the truth IN THE FIRST PLACE. But you didn't.

They used you like an object, a thing, something they click off like the computer itself - and you deserve better. Besides, they are only using therapy as a COVER.

If they say "it will hurt/ upset my partner if I talk to you" find out exactly what they told their partner about you. Did they paint you as the bad one to get their a** out of the doghouse? Probably! If they say that they are still lying - to you, to their partner and themselves.

HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!

(there are cyberpaths, such as Clive, Doug Beckstead and Dorsky that have tried to erase their tracks and rewrite history but don't know much about web archives and data retrieval! NOTHING ever really disappears on the web.)

Charles Ed Hicks said, IN COURT - IN FRONT OF A JUDGE, after 2 of his ex wives testified against him and hard proof of his fraud and bigamy was entered into the record that it was "False, ALL FALSE" Rumor has it - he's writing a book to 'set the record straight.' Maybe O.J.'s publisher is interested? LOL

Did we mention after a year in jail for Bigamy, Hicks was recently tossed out by another woman in Charleston, S.C. and is back online using the name CHARLES HICKS or CHARLES GREENE? Trolling for his next victim? And he's currently a WANTED FUGITIVE so beware!

Do you think they learn? change? NO! They just play on their next victim's compassion and willingness to believe in them.

Also the winner, by 98%, of the lines married predators (those that admit they are married) give to their victims:

My [spouse] is cold to me/ the marriage is dead/ won't have sex with me/ its over ...but I am staying because of the kids/ money and I don't love [my spouse] anymore... our marriage is only on paper....

YAWN!
It's so predictable that it's sad. Truly sad. As sad as the fact that to these predators, victims are merely objects to use.

And as we have said many many times - please at least Google or search on the person you are chatting with's name and nickname(s) and read EVERY PAGE OF ENTRIES THAT COMES UP. If they are pressing you for a meeting - we have links to background check agencies on the right and for a small fee you can find out everything you need to know.

If anyone tells you "if you do a check on me then you don't trust me/ love me" - DO THE CHECK ASAP! If you find them on a site warning you - BELIEVE IT. If they tell you "don't speak to so and so, they will lie about me or my relationship with them" or "she's a scorned woman" - SPEAK TO THAT OTHER PERSON ASAP AND GET THE TRUTH!!!!!

REMEMBER: People who are honest have nothing to hide.

MORE: VERBAL ATTACKS OF THE SOCIOPATH

NLP, Mind Control and Seduction

We talk a great deal on this site about the seduction techniques used by cyberpaths. Similar techniques are used by seducers offline as well. Anyone - we mean ANYONE - irregardless of how smart or savvy you are - is a potential target.

This doesn't make you stupid, gullible or irresponsible.

These techniques are used by Advertisers, Marketers, Politicians, even Con Men and Success Seminar Gurus. We are exposed to it every day - so much so that we no longer see it. NLP can be a powerful tool -- but in the hands of exploitative pathologicals? LOOK OUT!

Here's some clickable links we hope you read to learn more about the science of everyday seduction:
NLP = NeuroLinguistic Programming
Review of The Art of Seduction
Influence at work -- Site that explains the different tools of influence and how they're used. Based on Cialdini's 7 Principles of influence.
Encyclopedia of NLP -- Defines key terms in NLP, a collection of psychological influence and therapeutic techniques.
Neurosemantics.com -- great online resource for NLP, state control and modelling.
How to Become an Irresistible and Hypnotic Communicator.
Cognitive Dissonance - A definition and how it works. (Something we all do everyday!)

Influence Women With the Power of a Cult Leader! - sound like a joke? Then why do all the cyberpaths sound so much ALIKE??
Seduce Women Using Seduction Techniques
Don Juan Discussion Forum Yes, you were right ladies - they DO discuss how to do it! and this is not the only forum where these predators discuss this stuff

Make Any Woman Sexually Addicted to You - one of Sammy Benoit aka yidwithlid's (first profiled in Feb. 2005) playbooks; verified to us by law enforcementLife of Brian Not only does he blog about it - he makes a living giving how to seminars.

Erotic Hypnosis & Hypno-Seduction - "The state of arousal is created to overcome resistance or, even better, to lead the victim of the seduction process to apparently take control of the situation, by performing the physical action ultimately desired by the seducer or the seductress."

The Sage of Seduction are we starting to get the picture here?

CLICK HERE FOR A GREAT GRAPHIC THAT EXPLAINS NLP!!

Conditions for mind control:
Psychologist Margaret Singer described in her book "Cults in our Midst" six conditions, which would, she says, create an atmosphere where thought reform (online predators 'groom' their prey using thought reform) is possible. Singer sees no need for physical coercion.

-- controlling a persons time and environment, leaving no time for thought (sweeping you off your feet??)

-- creating a sense of powerlessness, fear and dependency ("need")

-- manipulating rewards and punishments to suppress former social behavior ("if you... then I will")

-- manipulating rewards and punishments to elicit the desired behavior (disappearing offline without warning or when you have trouble and need them the most? all TALK no actions to back it up?)

-- creating a closed system of logic which makes dissenters feel as if something was wrong with them (making you feel guilty or that you don't 'love' or 'care for' them if you go against the cyberpath's wishes?)

-- keeping recruits unaware about any agenda to control or change them (comments like: "I would never hurt you, I would never lie to you, I can't believe you think I am lying/ using you...." etc)

(sounds like abuse..... doesn't it?)

"The descendants of Casanova of our time are called Ross Jeffries, Major Mark Cunningham, Rob Johnson and David De Angelo. They organize seminars and then sell audio- and videotapes on which their techniques for the allure and capture of worthy specimen of the female gender are taught.

For our purposes, especially the material by Ross Jeffries is interesting, since his "Female Psychic Attack" - techniques often tap into the power of NLP for eliciting states of arousal. One of the techniques used by Jeffries for states elicitation is the use of metaphors to stimulate images of sexual nature by bypassing the filtering of the conscious mind. [...]

[...] elements that are necessary for creating an emotional basis for a sexual act, really anticipating it, while he is apparently talking about a documentary he saw, and therefore cannot be blamed for explicit sexual talk. The real information gets through the filtering of the conscious and is perfectly understood by the subconscious of the target, who then creates the desired images of sexual content in her mind, intensifying therefore the state elicited through the embedded commands that Ross speaks out.

Our Speed Seducer has developed hundreds of patterns like the one mentioned before, all ready to be used by his students. But these scripts are not the only interesting aspect of Ross' work: Weasel phrases like "if I were to say to you", for example, tend to introduce a daring compliment or proposal while contemporarily providing a step-back path. Ross provides his students with many of these conversational tools. [...]

A folkloristic note about Mr. Speed Seduction: the guy interpreted in Magnolia by Tom Cruise is based on the character of Ross Jeffries, though you will find in that movie no valuable information in regard of his taught material and his seminars (as well as his behaviour on stage) are much different than the one seen in the movie, though he surely is proud of his masculinity. [...] - [quoted from: Keys To Erotic Hypnosis]

Just keep all this in mind when dealing with a cyberpath or anyone online. And realize that while we don't believe in or espouse not taking responsibility - how can anyone be themselves or make informed decisions when they are being coercively controlled & manipulated?

Remember this next time you say "I was so stupid to fall for it" or wonder what red flags you missed or didn't see or even 'what's wrong with me?'.

Like slight of hand - these predators are good at getting you reeled in before you know what hit you. - EOPC

The SEXUAL ADDICTION Affair

(note: Many CYBERPATHS are sex addicts who use the internet to hide their real purposes behind pretty words and promises. "I love you" seems to be their way into your bed. It is cheaper than a hooker or more fun to twist someone's emotions and then dump them because you view everyone as an OBJECT. Many of these Cyberpaths are narcissistic psychopaths who are emotionally vacant & immature to the point that many keep reliving the shallow come ons of their 'teen years' and 'being on the make' to prove their prowess and provide themselves with stimulation.)

Dr. Hare describes people he calls psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm, manipulation, intimidation, sex and [threats] to control others and to satisfy their own selfish needs."

(SEE ALSO: "Don Juan as Psychopath")

Here is an article on this sort of "affair" - real or cyber - EOPC)

By: Dr. Robert Huizenga

One kind of extramarital affair revolves around sexual addiction. The partner involved in the affair, plain and simple, has a difficult time saying "NO." He/she may want to, but feels compelled to say "yes."

People can't say no? Well, I believe we all have the capacity, at some level, to say no. However, not all have developed that capacity or reached that level to firmly say no and mean it.

Some are stuck and seem to lack the ability to consistently act on the no. Please remember that all of us are grabbed by something and then find it difficult to let go. Infidelity when connected to sexual addiction and its many forms, however, becomes a powerful focal point.

How to know if infidelity (or Cyberpathy) is attached to sexual addiction:

1. Sex takes on an inflated role or value. Sex, sexual conquest, sexual release becomes a powerful force. Acting on the sexual impulse is a frequent activity. Thinking about sex likewise consumes an inordinate amount of time. Multiple ways of acting out sexually (internet porn, strip clubs, multiple sex partners, online affairs, email lists full of 'contacts', profiles full of fake information or membership on sites catering to dating, prostitutes and/ or those who frequent them, membership on sites for sexual liaisons, etc.) are common.

2. This activity is bound by fear. The person lives with fear: the fear of getting caught, the fear of consequences, the fear of being found out, the fear of being abnormal, the fear of being punished, and the fear of losing family, spouse, job and respect.

3. A promise/ failure cycle ebbs and flows with the inability to say no. After an acting out episode the person usually experiences guilt/fear and promises to self or others, I won't do it again. This will last... until the urge is acted upon again. The spouse/partner may be aware or unaware (but sense that something is not right) of the roller coaster and succession of broken promises.

4. Others are used or seen as objects for personal gratification. No true intimacy is developed.

5. Sexuality sometimes confused with other needs or connected to unresolved past pain or trauma. A child who experiences confusion around sexuality or sexual abuse of one form or another, may carry along that confusion and attempt to work that through in a marriage or extramarital affairs.

6. Such a person lives in a distorted world. They come to see the world and relationship through the eyes of their addiction. They have a great capacity to rationalize their behavior, deceive others and may lead a dual life. (Or be a Pathological Predator, such as a Cyberpath)

Tip: If you suspect these characteristics fit you or someone you love (even someone you know online), get some help for yourself before your world disintegrates further or falls apart.
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There are many things in our culture that grab us and won't let go. Sometimes sex is one of them. Perhaps that's the case for you or your spouse/partner.

These questions are intended to help you be more aware of some behaviors that perhaps indicate that sex has a hold on you. If you answer yes to three or more questions it probably is wise to take a closer look at the place of sex in your life.

1) Do I have sex at inappropriate times, inappropriate places and/or with the wrong people?

2) Do I make promises to myself or rules for myself concerning my sexual behavior that I find I cannot follow?

3) Have I lost count of the number of sexual partners I've had in the past 3 years?

4) Do I have sex regardless of the consequences (e.g. the threat of being caught, the risk of contracting herpes, gonorrhea, AIDS, oral or genital STDS, etc.)? (condoms don't protect against everything. Viruses can be transmitted and live on the skin, in the mouth and so on for months and be transmitted to the spouse/ partner -- no matter how clean you think you are)

5) Do I feel uncomfortable about my masturbation, the fantasies I engage in, the props I use, and/or the places in which I do it?

6) Do I feel jaded, exhausted, cynical? Am I on the path to that?

7) Do I feel that my life is unmanageable because of my sexual behavior?

8) Do I have sex as a way to deal with or escape from life's problems? Do I feel entitled to sex? Do I feel as though I have earned sex?

9) Do I have a serious relationship threatened or destroyed because of outside sexual activity on my part?

10) Do I feel that my sexual life affects my spiritual life in a negative way?

Nathan E. B. Thomas, Jr. -- The Black Rider

Thomas had an unreal imagination. It's been reported to us he fancied himself as a James Bond, 'International Man of Mystery' type character. Of course, his lies about being CIA and Special Ops just supported his pulp fiction fantasy of who he really was.

We saved the best, the most hysterical and probably the sickest stuff until last. Thomas sent Victim #2 these stories of himself styled as "THE BLACK RIDER." He presented them as dramatizations of things he had really done or was doing! (As ridiculous as his claims of 'being alone in a cabin in the mountains, then climbing down and asking a farmer for fresh eggs'! The closest this man ever got to roughing it was the nearest hotel or some naive woman's home!)

Here are some of his BLACK RIDER stories; reading like a John LeCarre novel. The stuff he believes he did... in his psychopathic mind. He would also send pictures of military operations, soldiers in battle training exercises, and so on cut & pasted from online military e-zines and journals to which his victims had no access, presenting them as 'his men' or 'him' (in the latter the face was well covered or obscured).

Remember he is presenting these as fact when they are total works of fiction!

Our comments in DARK BLUE.

There was always a fire burning some where and there was always a need to have it put out. The Black Rider sat an thought about the past weekend and the thoughts of when he would have peace. There seemed to always be something going on as the normal world went about it business of the day never realizing how close they had come to not seeing their families or loved ones again. He was sure that if the normal people ever saw what he had to deal with that they would be scared and of course there would be those then that would take away the very liberties he was trying to protect, but people would be so afraid of the animals that they would give up their freedom, if it meant they were safe. Once they had given up their freedom those who were sworn to protect them over time would become their controlling captors rather than their protectors. (Nathan Thomas = controlling captor)

Last weekend was such a time. The Black Rider had been gathering information on this team of people that were in the process of bringing deadly biological agents into a northern European area. So there was all kinds of surveillance that was done to weed out these folks and it was very hard to get to them as they had a place that would require an army and even then there would be doubts of capturing all of the important people. So, as long as the items had not moved across the border the Black Rider said there was time. Everyone was telling him to strike earlier and he always fought large elements of people as he was not going to do what they wanted. The Black Rider normally picked on weekends as those people with families liked to have them and they acted like normal people. (as if he'd know what NORMAL was!) So, this was their weakest moment. The problem was how to take out the bad from their families and ensure there families were not harmed in the process? ("how can I get freebies from a woman who already has a family and get away with it?")

The Second was given the task of ensuring there were people to protect the family members and whenever possible to make sure that they would not see anything bad happen to their loved one. So, it was determined that sleeping gas would be used and all members put to sleep first. In the case where the man and woman were in a room together they would both be give the gas and the bad guy taken away while his wife slept. Children were also handled with a gas. Then there was the neighborhood as it could not know that they had ever been there. (and he will run from being caught or found out as a predator and swear he had no idea or it never happened, to those around him.)

So, it was time to move and the Black Rider had confirmation that all were in place and it was time to move. Team #2 hit first and they hit a house which was 200 Kilometers away where there was an arms dealer who had the agent in question. So, the problem was locating the agent and that meant the arms dealer had to be taken alive and questioned. (Thomas, has anyone ever taken you alive and questioned you or do you find a reason to run?)

Team #2 went in at 0100 hours and too the husband right out from under his families noses as they were all given knockout gas which caused them all to sleep and not wake up until much later. The arms dealer was then taken by car and later by helicopter to an isolated area where the information would be extracted from him in very short order as soon as he awakened. (Arms dealer? Thomas wouldn't have a clue what to do with a real arms dealer)

Team #1 had another individual who was the buyer and he had the money and the connections. He was to be captured as well and all of his accounts cleaned out. He would have no money to make the buy and the Black Rider's leaders would use this money to finance their fight against such evil. (or maybe lining his own pockets to sleep with more women around the world)

Team #3 had another action and they were to take out with extreme prejudice the biological engineer that was working for a very bad cell of terrorist. All that were in his building were considered bad and so it was a free zone and all within were hostile in nature. (Psychopaths are hostile in nature. Thomas trying to tell us something?)

The Black Rider was waiting on the information as to where the chemicals were and his job was then to make sure they were all destroyed. The information came in from Team #2 where the items were located. The Black Rider then took his three personnel and they went to the area where the biological agents were held and started to destroy the products. In doing so all three were exposed to a very toxic agent which it was discovered ate through the fabric and went on to the skin. (The only toxic agent here is Thomas)

This new wrinkle made there a change to plans an there was a bio hazard expert that was flown to the location. The Black Rider was exposed on his left hand as very small area and between his stomach and penis where a barrel was being handled an some of its content got on the Black Rider's protective clothing. (oh boy - he found a reason to use the word PENIS!)

The Bio expert was very efficient and neutralized the affects of the agent, but there would be minor irritation for months. The best was that there was no contamination possible to the local population. (ooooo he's so brave... behind a keyboard.)

Had the public known what was going on and how close it had came to having wide spread terror the cost would have been horrific. (had the women he used known the truth he'd have been in jail by now) So the Black Rider once again thanked the cosmos for all of their good fortune. His mind went back to his love. A woman that would tell him that he did not know what stress was and that having a house full of kids was stress. There were times when he thought walk in my shoes at this time and let me know which has more stress when dealing with issues that at most hurt feelings, or dealing with issues where when you make a call it affects the lives of those around you and of those that never know that their lives rest in your hands. So he felt s smile as he thought of his gentle soul of a wife whose world was in peace and she did not see the same demons. (women don't see him for the sick pervert he is) But she held her torch of love burning for her man and this kept him going to know there was good in this world. (wonder how many women he sent this junk to? do you see the implied 'keep believing my lies' stuff here?)
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There were many insects biting the members of the team as they lay in wait watching the terrorist encampment. The mission was only to verify that all within the camp were hostile. (Thomas is emotionally toxic & hostile to decent women)

No one was to be engaged and the regular military would come in an take care of the situation. The Black Rider had advised the local commander that the best way to handle these people were by surprise with the maximum of violence and the minimum exposure to the troops. The local commander did not listen and wanted to do things his way! (When you read the email Thomas sent to Victim #2 at the bottom you will see he wants everything HIS WAY!)

So the Black Rider got his personnel together and laid it all out on the line for them and that their time was on them, as this mission was over by the legal sense; however, there were troops that were going to die needlessly and he said he was going to stay and ensure that the terrorist would not get a drop on the troops while he had anything to do about it. As he knew would happen everyone of his men said they were staying as this was the kind of men he had. They were all loyal and followed him without a word and without doubt. (imbedded seduction here: means he wants all his women to be loyal and believe him without a doubt! The rest of the story helps scare them that they either might lose him or are sleeping with a man who can slit their throats and get away it.)

The sun was beating down on them and they had been in location for hours under cover of dirt laid on top of the hole in the side of the hill. One of the members had the company of a lizard and a scorpion as it got hotter they were looking for a cooler spot and his hole was selected. All personnel as set up so there was a perimeter and there were two men to a hole where they took turns sleeping and watching their sectors. The scorpion was about to find out that it had came into a hole where there was danger. The Black Rider later found out that the scorpion got close to the mouth of his one man and it was bitten, but was not killed before its barb stuck its attacker in the cheek. The lizard was allowed to live as it would take care of the other insects that were in the hole, but the scorpion was not something they wanted to deal with at that time. (scorpion? maybe a common mosquito in someone's backyard! LOL)

Moments later there was the rumble of vehicles and as everyone had communications with other team members it was relayed that there was an armed convoy coming fast upon the enemy site. The Black Rider knew if his men and him heard them, that the terrorist would as well. Sure enough they came running out armed to the teeth. They were going to head for the very hill where they knew the vehicles were going to have to come and by the way, unknown to them it was all ready figured out by the Black Rider that they would go there, so he left a surprise for them. He new that this commander was going to come over ground and as he knew the direction he would have to take, so did the terrorist and the Black Rider knew where they would go to handle a ground attack. (When Thomas gets confronted he gets on the first plane out of the country.)

So as the terrorist got to the other hill and started setting up their mortars and heavy anti tank weapons the Black Rider and his men were waiting before springing there trap. The terrorist had set up and were now waiting for the convoy to come within killing range. This never came to pass as all of a sudden their position became and inferno. The minds were set to go off electronically and they started going off with deadly accuracy as the terrorist did not know what was hitting them. They were dying left and right as they watched their ranks get blown apart and they never new where it was all coming from. There were three sniper weapons trained on their location to mop up any loose ends and there were four which left the world never knowing from where their death came from. (Death would be convenient for Thomas to say happened to him - because then he'd be free from one or two women to add more to his stable)

Then as all of this was happening the people at the terrorist stronghold came out as they thought it was their people who were causing the death of the so called infidels and to their shock it was their own people dying and death came knocking on their doorsteps as well. The Black Rider ensured that as soon as they were aware of what was going on their whole operation had to be brought to the ground. He called in to his people and they brought a unmanned piloted vehicle in with a load of killer missiles and they were guided in by laser from the Black Rider's location. The stronghold was leveled to the ground as two missiles totally destroyed the little stronghold and reduced it to a smoldering heap of rubbish. The stench of burning flesh as all ready heavy in the air. (The stench of Thomas' lies is a lot worse!)

The local commander's troops came charging in and there was nothing left for them to do, except to bury the dead. The Black Rider and his men waited on their helicopter evacuation and left the scene where there was obvious confusion as to what had just happened. Their lives had been saved and they would never know how close it was that they came to not ever seeing their loved ones again. (LOVE? This guy doesn't know what that is... the only thing he loves is himself and his genitals.)
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The Black Rider came back after his men and he was sick from all of the traveling and going through time zones and different weather. (so many women, so little time!) He was suffering from a cold and a bad ear infection which had set in and it was a combination of action he had been through before, the different pressure on his ear drums, and the bad cold he was suffering. In spite of all of that he still had work to do and his men to take care of. (more emails to write, dating sites or penpal sites to patrol for fresh prey...)

His men had been called back earlier because of all of the bad things that were happening in the area where they were engaged trying to keep the outside forces at a distance while giving the local emerging government a chance to get on its own feet and govern itself the way its people wanted to be governed. He did not believe it would happen the way a lot of western countries thought because history in this area showed that there would be fighting and disputes until the end of time and a few years was not going to change something that had been going on for centuries. But all of that being said, it would not be because he did not give it his all, as he would to try and ensure that there would be a chance if it were within his power. If nothing else he was saving lives of the weak here and there and that was a good feeling. (he was devouring the weak with lies, lures, seduction and baloney to get sex, food and free housing!)

The Black Rider had been picked up in another country and placed on a military transport and was at once to work talking with his men on the ground and getting appraised of the situation and what would be required. There were many things to be considered and worried about, but some way he would pull it together. I bad news had reached him at a bad time where he had to cut short his personal life and there were many things he had planned on doing that had to either change, or be placed on hold to a later date. The Black Rider was trying to change his life and it was being made very difficult, but he was going to have things his way as he hated to fail like on the current mission he was putting together even as he flew toward the center of the world's problem, even though many did not realize fully what was happening. (Thomas' targets didn't realize what he was doing to them either.)

There were many things to be coordinated before he got there and he was not in the mood for excuses or long stories. Often, he was having to tell people to get to the point as he hated long stories as normally they turned into nothing but excuses. His men had learned his mood became dark when there were long stories and so they were always very brief and to the point. When the Black Rider started talking it was all one way communication as to what was required and by when. Anyone that stood in the way were to be put on the lne with him right away. During the flight, the black Rider was called four times to solve issues. (four women getting suspicious maybe?)

One was a local commander that did not want to give the resources that were requested and after arguing with the Black Rider, he was relieved by the Theater Commander after the Black Rider explained the situation and was placed under the control of the Black Rider as this was one of the requests of the Black Rider. (how many times can he use 'Black Rider' in a sentence? Like the 'I, Me, My' of a narcissistic type)

The Black Rider finally landed and was at once seen by the medical staff on the ground and given treatment to where he could work without having to bother about the pains of a cold for a few hours at a time. He took advantage of this and further organized for the upcoming operation. There were many things that needed to happen and there were satellites as well as agents on the ground of the enemy's camp that were providing information back to the Black Rider as he was organizing his band of warriors and making plans for a very bold raid, that would deal a very deep blow to the enemy camp held up in another country. (Woman in country #1 found out so now the Black Rider has to run to country #2 to see another victim... woman - and say he's on a mission. All the while setting up a liaison with woman #3 in yet another country!)

Five days passed and finally, the time that was waited for had arrived. The Black Rider was waiting on the enemy to make a move, which would place the enemy in a bad situation and give maximum advantage of surprise to the Black Rider and his men. The plan was simple, yet bold, and it called for people to cooperate and to be counted on to do their part in order for the mission to be a success. It called for a strike across the border into another country and it called for the complete destruction of the enemy base and all personnel in it. Because there could be political problems, if caught, there would be no chance of rescue and there would be denial that his country was even involved with the action. The Black Rider was not worried about the being caught portion, as it just did not seem like an option to even consider. (Psychopaths never worry about being caught but they don't like it when they are.)

During the time that his team had been deployed they had become feared and the enemy had the largest ransom in history for any one group dead or alive. They were known as the Shadows by his enemies and it was a mystique that was worked on for a reason. It came about from a TV show where this futuristic science fiction space movie depicted this force known as the shadows which would show up out of nowhere and destroy all in its path. They were feared and they were evil. The Black Rider was evil to the enemy. Whenever they had been someplace there was always a card left to with a figure coming out of the darkness and it was known as Death or the Grim Reaper. It was not a knew theme, but it had the desired affect. (The Black Rider is EVIL period. He IS the enemy, ladies.)

No one had ever known one of these things to ever be killed, or captured. There were a couple that had been spared for whatever reason, that were able to tell what they saw. There were a couple of papers that had been circulated about this force and it was one trying to explain to the enemy that these were normal beings and that they could be killed and that to-date they were just lucky. Well, after this attack that was being planned the Black Rider knew that there would be even more of a mystery behind them because he had some surprises for them to shock and awe and there would be thoughts of them as ghosts from hell coming to claim the bad and the wicked. (They will be coming for you soon enough, Mr. Thomas)

The Second came to the Black Rider and informed him that all was in order and they were ready for inspection. The Black Rider knew that there was not need to check as it would have been done as though he was there himself. This was the true test of leadership when the men acted and got things done to the same standards as though he was there right on the spot. The Black Rider went out and checked anyway as it was always a good thing to put more than one set of eyes on things when peoples' lives lay in the balance. (The only LIFE he recognizes and cares about is HIS OWN - everyone else's is there for him to play with, use, abuse, exploit and dump when he gets bored or caught.)

He went to the open quarters where the men had all of their gear laid out for inspection and it was all the same. They were trained to set up each area the same so when a leader looked at one set up all were the same and it was easier to tell when there was something missing or wrong. All items were correct and in working order. every man had packet his own parachute and his personal weapon was set out and all ammunition that would be needed for this mission was out. There was nothing but the items needed to wage war and anything else was a luxury. So there was nothing to keep them dry nor warm other than the thermo suits they would be jumping in to keep their body temps warm during the drop. This was a HALO jump would be used to airdrop at high altitude without posing a threat to the jumpers. They would jump from the aircraft and deploy their parachutes at a high altitude, 10–15 seconds later after the jump (typically at 27,000 feet or so). The jumpers will use a compass to guide themselves while gliding for 30 or more miles. The jumpers will use way points and terrain features to navigate to their desired landing zone, and along the way, they must correct their course for changes in wind speed and direction; making for a tricky navigation problem. All men would follow the Second and the Black Rider would be the last to exit the aircraft The Second being the first out the door would be in the lowest position and would set the travel course and act as a guide for his other team members. (Thomas has NEVER jumped out of a plane or helicopter.)

All men were in good spirits and the Black Rider could see the gleam in their eyes as they were all ready at the location and it was what they had been trained for. Their whole purpose in life for the next few hours or days would be to stop the enemy at all costs and to ensure that the enemy was never able to wage war from the location to which they were going ever again. There would be no pity nor quarter given. All was well in the inspection went well to include the other team members that had been taken under the operational control of the Black Rider. (CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL! Typical predator always needs to be in control!)

Next they went out to the transport that would be flying them to their destination. It was also a very flat black in color. There were no markings and it could have come from anywhere. This was a rare look by the pilots at the people they would be flying. The Black Rider noticed that they were very nervous as this was there first time meeting him; however, he knew each of them very well, as well as records could get one. He hand picked who would be flying his team and he knew that they were honored as well as scared to death as there were many stories that had been told about his men and him. He knew that they were nervous and they could not see his eyes as he had on dark shades and his Second was talking to them and every time the flight commander tried to ask the Black Rider a question, his Second would answer them. The Second gave the tour of the plane and all items required to include the weapons array that would be used by the flight crew upon the target area. (His second? What is this the Charge of the Light Brigade? LOL)

After the inspection, the Black Rider finally addressed the flight commander. He wanted to know how many combat missions had he flown of this nature and the flight commander looked at the reflective sun glasses and asked must he talk to the glasses when answering or could he look into his eyes? The Black Rider was not in the mood for a fly boy smart ass, so he walked away without answering. (same way he walks away giving no answers to his victims) He handled it this way because pilots were known to have large egos and at times their egos were bigger than they were. (Thomas' ego is humongeous obviously!) This was know of jet pilots and he used to be one until it was determined that he needed eye glasses. Jet pilots by nature had attitudes was the Black Riders thinking and that was not all bad as he and his men had attitudes as well, but only when needed. His Second asked if he wanted the flight commander changed out and the Black Rider informed him that he wanted him as he read he was the best of all and he knew on this mission he would be needed. He knew that this flight commander was a hard one to control as well and to this end, he wanted to keep the upper hand and he wanted the flight commander to always wonder about him, but never find out a thing through personal contact. The Black rider looked at his Second and said tell him, that if he is asked the same question a second time by me that his whole world will change. The Second understood as he had been with the Black Rider longer than any of them, so he knew exactly what was meant by that. The pilot screw things up and he would never fly anything, but cargo until he retired. (Thomas thinks he so powerful but he's really a nothing and a nobody by retired Army who's flying an armchair in some poor woman's house.)

The Black Rider went back to his room and he chatted with his love over the line to another world. His heart was heavy as there were things he wanted to say and could not. (like - 'I am lying. You are the 3rd or 5th woman I have to call...') His love was safe and had no idea the things he was really dealing with. He also knew that tomorrow is never promised and so time was something he looked at through different eyes. There were many things that he saw differently, but there was one thing that he knew and that was that this woman held his love and he was fighting to ensure that he was able to get back to this love of his life. (He's already with the love of his life - HIMSELF)

Now all they could do was wait until the time was right and then they would leave and he hoped that this thing would go as he had envisioned it. He had placed each man from the other team with one of his men and they were under their control until they closed back in to this current location. His men were doing a good job of watching out for them and ensuring they were prepared for when he came to inspect. (Notice, THOMAS has the final word in his stories - just like cyberpaths love to have the final word - and give no closure.)

So, the Black Rider was sitting down and writing in his journal to his love that she would know what was going on. He had his fears and those were, what if he were never able to see her in this world again and how sad she would be. To make sure that his last words were kind and not hurtful, that she would not have regrets. Then he would think, maybe he should make her mad at him and even get her to hate him and then if there were something to happen she would not be as sad. But a lass he dropped these thoughts because it would be worse for her to think bad as he wanted there to be laughter in her heart when she thought of their lives together which had burned hot and bright for the time they had shared. She was his love and was as gentle as he was mean at times. The Black Rider wrote a little more an then he would send off what he had written, so far and then get some sleep, but then thought no, he would finish the journal when he returned and complete the action for this time period. (He has so many ludicrous and insane fantasies about himself running around in his head!)

It was just before 2200 hours and it was nice and dark and all men were well rested and ready for the task ahead. There would be about a two hour flight by the route they had to take and then they would jump in the darkness. The temp would be very cold and the Black Rider had to ensure that everyone was alert to the possibilities that were at hand during this mission. All men were well versed on their actions and the times and the rally points and all check points along the way as well. To prepare the personnel's night vision even before they got on the aircraft they were kept in a room with only red-lights on. in this room were last minute checks, as doing High Altitude High Opening jumps were nothing to play with and so all had to be checked to ensure that they had not broken the rules. The Black Rider wasnt worried about the men he had trained, but the jury was still out on the other members which were under his control now. There was an obvious difference in experience and the Black Rider's men had been out on more mission than any other unit since 1999. (IN HIS HEAD! And he's picked up more women in the last 8 years, since he got the internet!)

So, it was time for the safety measures and points to be covered: and finally the signal came to move out to the aircraft. On the inside of the aircraft there was also nothing but red lighting as well. The flight commander had ensured that everything was operationally ready on his aircraft and he was ready to do his part. The Black Rider asked him if he was clear on the pick-up point and if he had rocket assist to help on a short take off and he was given the affirmative. The Black Rider stood by as his men loaded up and was given the thumbs up by his Second that all was ready. The Black Rider then got on the aircraft and the doors and the ramp closed. (Taking guesses, readers, on how many women got these stories?)
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An email from Thomas to Victim #2 to "prop up" his claims of being a CIA OPERATIVE.

OK Cutie, (he called Victim #1 Cutie also - these guys love pet names in case they forget the real ones!)

I found an office and it will be fine. I now have people to place the items that I will be needing. Then after today I should be operational. So there has been a lot of hustle and everyone is amazed at how quickly things got done. I am not though as I know that these folks we call upon to move things are efficient and as long as they know what you want they will make it happen. So I was very proud of how after receiving a call at how quickly and efficiently they went about getting things together and delivered, plus set up. (probably means he got a new laptop and was able to get all the spyware he planted on all the women he was playing operational.)

My team member here is busy limping around and his eyes are glowing as he feels useful again and knows he will be helping the team in its day to day operation. I guess my eyes are glowing too, but I have no one to tell me that they are. (team member is probably a wife or girlfriend. LOL)

So, I am or will be operational today. I have arranged times with my man and we will do this in between our physical rehab times. (physical rehab? How about a diet?)

How has your day been going? Have you had a hard or easy day? How are the kids doing now? So, tell me Cutie. One child will be out of school this year. You said they will be moving with us more than likely. (DARN!) What will be their role? What will they be doing? How do you see it working with them? I mean they will not be in school as I hear it and they will be taking a break. (means: "do you expect me to help pay for this break? I have other women with children to deal with!) The same with the other child? (in a big hurry to get rid of the kids. Too many eyes & brains might see through his lies and bust him! In fact, one of Victim #2s children did discover that Thomas was already listed on this site as a predator and had been for a couple years!)

There are a couple ideas that I have and you tell me what you think. Car: there will be one car which they all have to share and to maintain. So when someone needs to be picked up or taken somewhere that is their job to look out for. (Because he's too lazy to do it) When it needs to be maintained or gas it is they who will get together and arrange for these things to be taken care of. Now having said this I know you say that they will not agree to work on things and that they will never agree to share. (he's dictating family policy to someone he apparently married BIGAMOUSLY. Where was his responsibilities to his first wife and children?)

Here are my answers and reasoning to this and please your comments as if you have another way then I am open:

1. Need to be more responsible for themselves when needing a ride and I want you and me to have our peace and when we give rides it will be for those not of driving age. (He wants her all to himself. Abusers do this to their victims - its called ISOLATION OF PERCEPTION)

2. There are no arguments with us about our car and no, even if it is in the drive and they will only be gone for a second, it is not for their use, they will have a car and they need to call each other for help when this no longer works for them then it is time to buy their own vehicle. (He wants to be able to act tyrannically towards children that aren't his.)

3. Teaches the kids to work things out and to be more responsible. Takes the burden off of us and places it back on them. (Heaven forbid anyone burden the Black Rider!)

4. There are too many kids that will not respect their parent's car and there is a tendency to wreck or otherwise misuse the cars. Note: the car and I will say that our main car (the one you and I drive) will not be shared even in things they may call as an emergency and we have to be hard. They have a car and they need to coordinate its use. IF not then I am hard and not bend unless we have a life threatening situation. We will have done our part by providing them with a car. Any car after that time will require them either buying their own or buying out the others for its use. (He wants use of the car whenever HE wants. Fast getaway. And he has NO intention of making any room for the needs of someone's children. Only HIS needs.)

Now I know you are saying wow this is not good, but when do you start preparing the kids to be on their own? The safety net of home will be gone one day and so they need to be able to get out there. (And be GONE so I can really mess with your mind!)

Next living at home:

1. What rules will there be? I have my thoughts, but I would like to hear them from you. (so he can criticize and tear you down)

2. What about cleaning? (because he isn't going to do it)

3. Helping with chores? (again, he isn't going to do it. He should be waited on, hand and foot.)

4. What is eaten/ Cooking/ friends coming over and eating and going through refrigerator. (because he wants food for HIMSELF and doesn't want to spend a dime to feed children)

5. Washing and ironing clothing? (He needs room service - free)

6. What about the rules of the house and what you say? (or what he says THROUGH her?)

7. At what age do you think they should have a place of their own? (when can he kick them out and not pay for them?)

8. Friends and visiting hours/ sleep overs? (again, a friend of one of the children might get suspicious of him and say something)

9. Telephone usage and giving out the number (because he probably has a trace on that too)

I am sure there are things that I may not have thought about and you have. And like I said this is all open to discussion. I know there are things that I take a more hard line to. Here I have done one thing that I did not do for my kids as I did not buy them a car at all, they had to save up and get their own and in the meantime it was if I did by chance take them and it was going to be late they had to show me that they had a way home, otherwise it would cost them for me to come get them and I normally had them doing things around the house to assist their mother. (Because he was spending his money on HIMSELF, his trips around the world on his Military discount, his internet access, access to dating sites and porn sites fees - why should he spend dime one on anyone but NATHAN? Thomas liked to appear wealthy to lure in women but he's really a cheap, selfish predator.)

Now, you know I am not short on words and I talk, so it may have come across hard, but I am here to listen as well Cutie because you have been raising the children and you are allowing me into their lives as well as yours. (funny - it looked like you were being dictatorial and now you are saying its because you care. That is classic abuser-speak.)

So, these are issues that are normally hard for families when there is one parent coming
into an all ready organized family unit. (You're not a parent. You're a predator)

Love, (gag)
T
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NOTE: It is suspected Nathan Thomas has another wife / girlfriend in Switzerland and possibly one in Prague. He has been visiting both of these areas regularly for a few years now.

Anyone with information should write to us and we will pass the information along to law enforcement.