Our comments throughout and at the end. In purple. - Fighter
Lori Drew - We Don't Believe You
There are times in a handful of cases when the needle on the B.S. meter stands straight up. When attorneys or officials in a case go so far in their rhetoric, you simply have to begin calling them out on their nonsense. The case of Megan Meier, the 13 year old teen who committed suicide after she was lured into a downward spiral, has reached such level.
We have a county prosecutor and a defense attorney who have gone on the record with statements that flat out rewrite history and previous statements. This flat out stinks of corruption that's increasingly becoming on par with the Duke Lacrosse Player's scandal. (Or Natalee Holloway. Or Laci Peterson. Or Drew Peterson. The list is endless)
If we were to believe that the statements Lori Drew is now making are truthful, and the police report she filed (click here for original) in Nov. 2006 is now incorrect, then why shouldn't Lori Drew should be prosecuted for filing a false police report or charged with making a false statement? Why is she not being charged for obstruction of justice?
Lori Drew, through her attorney Jim Briscoe has made the following statements:
"Everything, as far as Mrs. Drew knew, was that all the communication was nice and polite and there was no harassing going on. She did not create the MySpace account. She did not instruct anybody to create the MySpace account. She never made any communications through the MySpace account."
"She knew these girls were doing it and she didn't stop it. She wishes she did. If she could turn back the clock, that's the part she would do differently."
-told to TODAY's Matt Lauer (CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO)
See, now everyone else is to blame besides you. The officer who took your statement is a liar. (Edwin Lutz) Your daughter is to blame. (Sarah Drew) Your employee is to blame. (Ashley Grills) The Meier family is to blame. Yes Lori, everyone is to blame besides you.
But when it all comes down to it, we simply don't believe you. We'll take the officer's account of what you said above what your attorney says. He was not being paid to defend you and/or boost your public perception standings.
Jack Banas, we are calling for charges in this case one way or another.
Either the women did stalk this child, or she made knowingly false statements to the police prior to the surfacing of this report.
You cannot absolve this woman of complete wrong doing on both sides of the fence. Pick a side or step down and let someone take over who can. Too many admissions have been publicly made for you to continue to hide under your desk.
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The debate over the fate of Lori Drew and getting justice for Megan Meier rages on. Bloggers have taken up the cause, despite what media apologists like Fox and others does to us or other bloggers. Calling us a "cyber mob" or "vigilantes" in order to shame us to stop calling for appropriate law enforcement response instead of the "gee, we hope this goes away" rhetoric we have been getting isn't going to work.
As Sarah Wells said so brilliantly:
Vigilantism is one thing, the legal expression of the conscience of the community is another.By the way, Wells is blamed by media for "outing" Lori Drew by name. Click here for her excellent response to that charge.
In reference to one of our earlier posts "DO THEY EVER ADMIT THEY LIED OR TWISTED THE FACTS?" now add Lori Drew & company as predators who did this.
Doesn't it sound like a whole pile of blame shifting?
Also sounds like the Drews' were attempting to do this:
People who are engaged in defending their internal grandiosity may become adept at giving ostensible apologies that self-justifications. Narcissistically driven people do not seem to understand that saying expression of empathy with the injured party irrespective of whether the hurt was intentional or avoidable.Compare Drew's words & behavior to our other predators or perps. Please. In the right hand margin we have a whole list. Some are just one post, some are spread thru a certain month so scroll from the bottom of the link you click on & read them all.Then make up your own mind
A related substitute for apologizing is the practice of explaining. Unless the listener is particularly sensitive, an explanation can sound remarkably like an apology.
Was that note she wrote the Meiers an apology by Lori Drew? Of any sort? Sounds like the cyberpath's favorite: HOW TO NOT APOLOGIZE WHEN YOU HAVE SERIOUSLY F**KED UP.
Many people are saying Mrs. Drew is a sociopath or at the least a destructive narcissist. (two incurable personality disorders along the same spectrum) We aren't doctors. But we can find some of the criteria out there for identifying someone with Destructive Narcissistic Pattern (from Joann Ashmun):
Narcissists lack a mature conscience and seem to be restrained only by fear of being punished or of damaging their reputations -- though, again, this can be obscure to casual observation if you don't know what they think their reputations are, and what they believe others think of them may be way out of touch with reality. Their moral intelligence is about at the level of a bright five- or six-year-old; the only rules they recognize are things that have been specifically required, permitted, prohibited, or disapproved of by authority figures they know personally. Anyhow, narcissists can't be counted on not to do something just because it's wrong, illegal, or will hurt someone, as long as they think that they can get away with it or that you can't stop them or punish them (i.e., they don't care what you think unless they're afraid of you).More on DEFLECTING BLAME (click here to read)
-- If you're like me, you get into disputes with narcissists over their casual dishonesty and cruelty to other people
Trying to reform narcissists by reasoning with them or by appealing to their better nature is about as effective as spitting in the ocean. What you see is what you get: they have no better nature. The fundamental problem here is that narcissists lack empathy.
-- Lacking empathy is a profound disturbance to the narcissist's thinking (cognition) and feeling (affectivity). Even when very intelligent, narcissists can't reason well. One I've worked with closely does something I characterize as "analysis by eggbeater." They don't understand the meaning of what people say and they don't grasp the meaning of the written word either -- because so much of the meaning of anything we say depends on context and affect, narcissists (lacking empathy and thus lacking both context and affect) hear only the words. (Discussions with narcissists can be really weird and disconcerting; they seem to think that using some of the same words means that they are following a line of conversation or reasoning. Thus, they will go off on tangents and irrelevancies, apparently in the blithe delusion that they understand what others are talking about.) And, frankly, they don't hear all the words, either. They can pay attention only to stuff that has them in it. This is not merely a bad habit -- it's a cognitive deficiency. Narcissists pay attention only to themselves and stuff that affects them personally. However, since they don't know what other people are doing, narcissists can't judge what will affect them personally and seem never to learn that when they cause trouble they will get trouble back. They won't take other people's feelings into consideration and so they overlook the fact that other people will react with feeling when abused or exploited and that most people get really pissed off by being lied to or lied about.
-- Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b) extremely critical of other people.
They see themselves as perfect or superior or infallible, next to god-like (if not actually divine, then sitting on the right hand of God) -- or else they are worthless. There's no middle ground of ordinary normal humanity for narcissists. They can't tolerate the least disagreement. In fact, if you say, "Please don't do that again -- it hurts," narcissists will turn around and do it again harder to prove that they were right the first time; their reasoning seems to be something like "I am a good person and can do no wrong; therefore, I didn't hurt you and you are lying about it now..." -- sorry, folks, I get lost after that. Anyhow, narcissists are habitually cruel in little ways, as well as big ones, because they're paying attention to their fantasy and not to you, but the bruises on you are REAL, not in your imagination. Thus, no matter how gently you suggest that they might do better to change their ways or get some help, they will react in one of two equally horrible ways: they will attack or they will withdraw. Be wary of wandering into this dragon's cave -- narcissists will say ANYTHING, they will trash anyone in their own self-justification, and then they will expect the immediate restoration of the status quo. They will attack you (sometimes physically) and spew a load of bile, insult, abuse, contempt, threats, etc., and then -- well, it's kind of like they had indigestion and the vicious tirade worked like a burp: "There. Now I feel better. Where were we?" They feel better, so they expect you to feel better, too. They will say you are nothing, worthless, and turn around immediately and say that they love you. When you object to this kind of treatment, they will say, "You just have to accept me the way I am. (God made me this way, so God loves me even if you are too stupid to understand how special I am.)" Accepting them as they are (and staying away from them entirely) is excellent advice.... They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who has the problem and needs to change. Therapies work at all only when the individual wants to change and, though narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they want the world to change. And they criticize, gripe, and complain about almost everything and almost everyone almost all the time. There are usually a favored few whom narcissists regard as absolutely above reproach, even for egregious misconduct or actual crime, and about whom they won't brook the slightest criticism. These are people the narcissists are terrified of, though they'll tell you that what they feel is love and respect; apparently they don't know the difference between fear and love.
Narcissists feel entitled to whatever they can take. They expect privileges and indulgences, and they also feel entitled to exploit other people without any trace of reciprocation.
So perhaps the Drews do have a fulfilling life ahead them. Because Megan Meier doesn't.
Briscoe's latest statment from Lori Drew? Sounds like ALL of our cyberpaths!! damaging their reputation! You mean: their fabricated reputation which everyone sees through now. Didn't Mrs. Drew admit in her statement to police -- to helping her daughter create the Josh Evans MySpace account and that mean things were said? Now, all of suddent, her lawyer says she didn't? Are we missing something here? Danny, looks like you caught it too. Sounds like THIS (click here)
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
EOPC continues to urge or readers to CLICK HERE (scroll to the bottom of this post for the pertinent address & email information) and please continue writing the legal authorities to reopen this case and DO THE RIGHT THING for Megan and her grieving family. If the media and is continuing to defend Mrs. Drew & the law continue ducking any responsibility, its the least we can do for the Meier family.
Write Jack Banas and ask the questions Danny asked in his post. Find out if he EVER talked to the Meier family, because it seems he only spoke to the Drews. His latest nonsense was:
"The actions of the Drews and Grills are not criminal under existing state law, Banas said, because their intent was never to harm, stalk, endanger or harass.You, the concern citizens, can write this prosecutor here:
"They did it so they could find out what Megan was saying about Mrs. Drew’s daughter," Banas said. "That is undisputed.
"The only purpose was to find out what one little girl was saying about another little girl" .
Jack Banas, Prosecuting Attorney (who refuses to file charges or talk to the Meier famiy directly!)
Courts Administration Building
300 North Second Street
St. Charles, MO 63301
Here's an example taken from Sarah Wells' blog by a concerned and reasonable responder, if you have problems composing your own letter - it might read something like this. Its 1 piece of paper, 1 envelope and 1 stamp. Megan was worth at least that.
And the Meier family has continued to ask people to write their lawmakers and those in MO to pressure them to reopen this case and press charges. So here's just one example:
Dear Mr. Banas,(btw - that doesn't sound like the member of a mob, does it?)
I am a concerned mother pleading that you be accountable and responsive to the citizens of St. Charles County in the case of Megan Meier. I believe you have been merely thinking inside the box in this clearly criminal case. The fact that the unnamed neighbor emerges from this tragedy with no charges against her is appalling.
She broke no laws, you say? How about:
Distribution of harmful material to minors
Violation of the Communications Decency Act of 1996
Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
It doesn’t take much imagination to think of charges.
Are you worried about your stats? The citizenry will think more of you if you seek justice. To emotionally prey upon an innocent and fragile young girl is evil, and the perpetrator must be held accountable.
In the last hours before Megan hanged herself, Drew said: "Everybody in O'Fallon knows how you are. You are a bad person and everybody hates you. Have a shitty rest of your life. The world would be a better place without you". How can anyone read these words and deny they contributed greatly to Megan’s death?
We are watching. We are waiting. We are voting. We will not forget your handling of this case. You have the opportunity to acquit yourself in the court of public opinion. Do the right thing!
If you insist on ignoring criminal cases, may I suggest that of damages to a certain foosball table? Or the criminal charge concerning damages to a lawn? Both property damage charges made by the Drews against the Meiers! I’m sure your constituents wouldn’t mind if you dismissed those charges.
And you voters in MO? Vote Banas out during the next upcoming election. This could be your child or you we are fighting for next. - "Fighter"
For DBKP's latest on the "MeganHadItComing" blog- click here
DBKP - The Increasing Victimization of Lori Drew