Remember: EOPC considers Cyberpathy an expression of Narcissism and/or Psychopathy
Readers, did your cyberpath send you similar stuff?
Our comments in Dark Blue.
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From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Victim #2
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: What All I Feel
Hey Babes,
I have been sitting here thinking about you and us! It is frightening the love that I feel for you and it worries me to lose you as well. (afraid she's going to figure you out!) It is funny that I do not think about myself, but worry about you. I know you have taken care of yourself all of these years and you have made your way.
I am not one to take away the credit and give it where it is due as it takes a determined person to have done what you have done to date. (real meaning: She's vulnerable & I hope she stays that way!) I do not know how much time we will have in this world together, but whatever time it is, I know that there will be a life time of living packed into this time in space. It will be filled with happiness and we will have so many precious moments and it will carry us through all things. (wtf is he TALKING about? notice how twisted the verbiage is... like his brain... convoluted!)
I do not know what is planned in our lives as far as us together. I know that it is not normal that two pass at the same time, but people that are so in love as we are do not live long after their mate passes. (Darn right it's not normal - you are an already married predator with other women scattered all over the globe!)
I know you do not like to hear such talk as we will have long lives and they will be full, but one day and it will come where one of us will cross over before the other. (or unless Nathan does a disappearing act for another woman and then you get a "mysterious" email telling you he's "dead." We have seen cyberpaths pull that B.S. before, too)
I have been thinking and if then I would want it to be you before me as I know I would be shortly behind you. I would not want you to suffer as if you love me as much as I think you do, then you will feel so alone and be so hurt and haunted by my empty space. I think you would be so sad and this I could not take. (Because he thinks he's such a great guy - NOT!)
I know if I were left behind that I would be sad, but like a good soldier I would wait my time to join you. (and find many other women online to fill in that time, as he already has!)
I love you and it is not that I love you any less, but that I would rather it be me that suffers the loneliness and not you! Life does not always give us what we want. But, I had to say this as it was on my mind as I was thinking about you and me. (These guys have no clue what LOVE is - they just know it's a word that gets them what they want)
What do I see when I think of you? I see a woman that loves me for who I am inside and out and there is no doubt in my mind about her love for me. (You see someone who is buying the facade so far - but she had no idea at the time who you REALLY WERE!)
I see a woman that when I think about her she makes my soul sore and my spirit rise. (and fills me with glee because I am getting away with it! again)
I see a woman whose eyes light up when she sees me and I can tell her love through her looks and her touch. By the little things she does and says. I see a woman whose skin gets goose bumps when I touch her and when we make love I can feel the passion rise from her and I can tell that she is giving to me all of her body, mind, and soul, because it is there in her eyes, her touch, it can be felt even in the air. To hear you laugh is like music to me ears and to hear you talk soothes my very soul. (and all I really want out of women is free sex and for them to take care of me so I can have free vacations, variety and lots of sex!)
You are to me the complete woman. Each time we make love I do so with the knowledge that you are doing so out of love and that it is with the knowledge that each time could leave you pregnant with our child. (thank GOODNESS he didn't get her pregnant! And again - these guys don't make love - they masturbate using your body)
The narcissist very early on claims soul-mate-ship, ultimate love. Everything seems incredible and unbelievable - a dream come true. Free people might show each other affection but generally feel comfortable with themselves. They might enjoy the company of someone but will stay focused on their own interests. The victim is needy due to some abuse. The narcissist is not needy in terms of affection but admiration within the group where the narcissist keeps his or her spider-web. However, the narcissist gives this affection in order to draw the victim into this spider web. This is a difficult time for the narcissist because the narcissist cannot be intimate. Hence, intimacy is replaced by sex.
Dr. Ludger Hofmann-Engl
So the greatest honor any woman can give to a man is when she knows and wants to give her man a child. It does not have to happen, but just the knowledge that you would want to is honor enough. (and you should talk to his first wife Marion, about how he "takes care" of the children he gave her. Because he DOESN'T.)
With you I am complete and there is no other calling on life other than to be the best husband that any woman could ever ask for. That each day you are overwhelmed by the love you are receiving from me both mentally and physically. (spare us, Thomas. How many women did you send crap this to?)
Love,
T
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:22:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: To My Love
To: Victim #2
It means:
My dear of wife, I love you and I want to be with you forever! (what??)
Love, T
These characters are often described as "a tower of strength" by those who do not have to live with them. They make this observation when they see their apparent calmness and composure in family crisis.
The truth is, they are calm and composed, because even as the event and the tragedy unfold, there is no empathy or shouldering of the stress and the pain. They are not at all bothered by the suffering of those near. They feel nothing because again, they are never going to empathise/internalise.
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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: 9/27/2004 4:19:10 PM
Thank you so much for the photos. You have a very nice family.
Wen I saw your family photo at first glance you cannot tell where the mother is, one really has to look. Now, I know you say here we go he has started talking crap, but I mean it, I had to look a second time and then I saw the mature adult face there. (oh puhleeeze!)
Everyone is cute, but I can see where they got it from. There is something about your look as though I have known it for years. But anyway, I hope that we are able to keep in touch with one another. (same line he gives EVERY OTHER WOMAN!)
Me, I was working this weekend and then I had off and went into the mountains. I must admit that I did not do any training and was rather lazy, but the air was so good. I stayed in a cabin for one night where I had a real lazy time of it. No, I was not roughing it as there was a working toilet and a gas stove to heat water and cook on. Nice fire place. So I took a book with me and a days worth of food and went there and shut out all humanity. (where were you REALLY? Another woman? With the lastest best-selling spy novel to get some more ideas for your fake personna?)
OK, not quite as my laptop is a wireless and so I can communicate over my cell phone as well. (because he wasn't in a cabin. Probably at some other woman's house catching up on all his online dating profiles)
So, much for shutting out humanity you say? Well, I have to be reached in case there is something that I have to react to. (REACT to? WOW! Talk about a Freudian slip here!)
So, I took a nice walk and was caught in the rain. I got back to the cabin and first started a fire in the fireplace and then I stripped out of the wet clothing and curled up in a blanket next to the fire and watch it dance around the logs. After a bit I got up and cooked me some eggs fresh from the farmer, real smoked ham, bread and some real preserves made by the same farmer. Some good strong coffee and I was good. (fresh eggs from a farmer? What is this? 1937? ROFL!! This is really an outrageous lie!)
When I woke up, yeah terrible I fell asleep by the fire because I read maybe two pages it was dark out and the fire was out. So I lit the lamps and cooked again and opened a nice bottle of Italian red wine. I had spaghetti with smoked ham cut up on it, cheese, and garlic, with some garlic bread. (O.K. Too many WWII movies that weekend, huh? Was John Wayne or Audie Murphy in any of them?)
So, for one day nothing but being lazy and then early Monday morning back down the mountains to work. Yeah boring but I like boring sometimes. The only item missing was maybe a nice person to have a stimulating chat with about anything or just be crazy and giggle about silly stuff. (this man wouldn't know what roughing it is! He's far too lazy.)
It was nice coming on and seeing an email from you and even better that you sent some photos. (he got to fantasize to new photos!! woo-hoo!!)
By the way it looks as though all had a good time and that is nice.
Thinking of you! (and everyone else I might send this same, slightly edited for each woman - email to)
T
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From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: To My Sweet Darling Love, My Passionate Wife, My Everything!
To: Victim #2
Morning Babes! (for goodness sake, don't these guys ever use their victim's NAMES? or is it that hard keeping track?)
I do not know what time you will get up, but I imagine not until one of your kids wakes you up. I want you to know that I so enjoyed chatting with you and even though I am sorry for keeping you up, there is a selfish side of me that is not because my soul needed it. It is who we are as we feed each other's souls and our spirits are as one when we are together and also when we are apart, but the difference is when we are apart our spirits know that it is the physical of each other that is needed to satisfy our physical beings.
There are no others that can do what we are too each other and it would be a crime to even attempt to do such a thing and bring dishonor on the other, even if the other were not to know we would know ourselves.
They say sometimes the good things in life do not come easy. I would say that might be true as we have been missing each other for most of our lives. (but boy have I kept busy with her and her and her and her and her...)
Also, it has bothered me as there was something that you said this evening and then you broke off and maybe you were having second thoughts about it. (uh oh - did she get some inkling something's WRONG with you, Thomas?)
Babes you can talk to me. (because I need to keep profiling my victims so the more I know the better I can keep you roped in) Moments where you may not have been proud of yourself, or whatever, you can talk to me as I have told you so many times Rule #1 Never doubt my love for you! (because once you do, you will see I am a complete fraud)
You are my love and you have to not only know it, but feel it Babes! Hold not back your heart from me and what is on your mind. I need to know that you feel well to come to me and talk. Opinions and what happens are different things as anything that has happened to you in your past is what happened and to know these things also brings me closer to you Babes. (he needs to know what b.s. to keep telling you)
So, please do not hold back because you fear anything from my side. Trust that I will feel with you and love you! Trust in me that much Babes! (he needs more information!)
Yes, I know you trust me because if you did not you would not ever get in the car with me. I know you trust me as you have given your heart to me and you have shared many things with me. I know you trust me because you gave your body and soul to me and that means that I have to take care of this trust and to honor it. (but send me naked pics so I can post them on all the porn sites I visit!)
- Firstly, the victim will be forced to reveal her or his sexual preferences and experiences to the perpetrator.
- Secondly, the perpetrator will condition the victim to direct her or his entire sexuality towards the perpetrator. At this stage, the sexual relationship is intense.
- Thirdly, the perpetrator reduces the intensity of the sexual relationship dramatically, so that the victim is in constant sexual need.
- Fourthy, the perpetrator grants inproper sexual gratification in order to maintain the sexual need of the victim. Now, the victim, who is (sexually) dependent on the perpetrator, can be humiliated, manipulated and used.
- Dr. Ludger Hofmann-Engl
There was nothing that can affect me that to know you are not happy or feel well. I mean, not to be dragging up old things, but the one time when we were really in a difference of opinion and I was upset, but never to the point where I do not want you and you thought that I was not wanting to be around you, and that was not so, I was not wanting you to feel the bad vibes of my being upset. (again... can this guy write a STRAIGHT SENTENCE. He's giving us a headache!)
Please do not get me wrong as I respected your opinion, but then when you came in and I seen you were hurt, that bothered me to no end and I always told you never did I want us to go to sleep upset with one another or to leave the house upset as well. We know not what life brings us when we are apart physically or in sleep, so that if we were never to see each other again, that the last things we remember is that we let the other know our love. (GAG!)
May God have mercy on my soul and allow me to love you as a man loves his wife. That we will have a long, happy, healthy, fruitful life together. For truly I have done some bad things in my life, that scare me sometimes on His allowing my happiness with you. (and he's going to do even worse, believe us)
No matter what though, that you never know sadness from me or because of me as I love you so much. (no, just lies, trauma, emotional rape, fraud, probably bigamy...)
I have to pull things together and it is a shame that money drives so much, but I do not want that we are needy of anything or anyone. I want that the days of our lives have a little comfort, but that we are happy! So, I have looked at making changes, and none that you have asked for as it is all on my own. I so love you and there are minutes, hours, days, and months that I count where we are not together physically that I say oh, what wasted time, but then I say this pain is good because there is someone to love and I know one day it will be for good and ever more! (where's the aspirin? and the sickness bag... these predators all sound the same. When you really look at these sentences they are simply erotic imbedded come ons that truly make no sense)
Love,
T
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From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Victim #2
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Looking Like a Civilian
Hey Babes!
Here is a photo from today! As you can see I was braving it that I would not get wet. This was just before I got wet this morning. There was a vehicle that was coming through and it was on this route. Traveling from Austria into Germany. So, do I look like a tourist? Well, all thought I was a tourist, so that is good!
(Because you ARE a civilian. You are retired Army - traveling around to get laid and put your feet up on the beds of other women you lure in with all that sweet email blah blah blah! )
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