We are publishing these; received from Stone's victims - as examples to our many readers of what these harassers will do and continue to do - even to us. We are unconcerned; Stone doesn't want to get that no one cares. If Stone gets caught doing something dumb, he says he was 'hacked.' Perennial victims like this always need a "boogey-man" and we seem to be it for Stone.
______________________
Gary Stone
My guess is, that if they get xxx's hard drive, XXX would turn on XXXX, on a dime, I am basing that on how she has jumped ugly on Brown.
9 hours ago ·Like ·
Gary Stone XXX has republished a story, that has cost Scott Powers his PI license. (Powers lost his PI license all by himself. We had nothing to do with him)
Powers/Butler solicit Money, saying EOPC has commited Crimes. May 09
by Gary Stone on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 4:01am
After the blog wars ended 08 - 09 Jeff Butler and Scot Powers solicited money
to go after eopc. They wanted to exlude XXXX, saying crimes and been commoted
but - it ws eopc who ran away with the story. Later, Power said he filed a case for Smith and Kline
I filed one on all of them. Something was fishy about the offer. Powetrs got very mad, when I said wanted to talk to my lawyer. I didn't send the money. Sending Wastern Union was very suspicious. Usually it was sent via webiste. By CC. It had to be done hat week end. I got the feeling I was being pressured.
and sandbagged. If FBI saw that Powers had a long association wirh EOPC and it seems reasonable, as XXX was referred to Powers by XXX, then Powers planned to use my money
to finance XXX trumped up case against me. I would pay for my own prosecution. There could not be a more derranged plan.
Forwarded conversation
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM
To: Gary Stone
GARY
lol I told you it would find any thing. Its one of the best programs out there. I use this program. If your accuseing me of hacking I would think twice I follow
DOJ Guide lines for conducting internet investigations. Have at it but I don't do that sort of thing. And your welcome to do it. What the program did is found a keylooger that was previously put on your computer that you may have picked up by downloading a bad program.I use the free version of this program and never had a problem.
JEFFREY BUTLER
TOP FLIGHT INVESTIGATIONS IOWA
DUBUQUE IOWA 52002
563-495-8816
http://www.freewebs.com/cybersting/
From: Gary Stone
To:
Cc: topflightinvest@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 7:24:00 PM
Subject: keyloggers
Jim, Jeff recommended I download a software called Superspy
and I paid for it, this was when I suspected that my computer was hacked, and with good reason. It picked up a few viruses, but I was concerned about keyloggers.Keyloggers record your key strokes, and so, passwords can be sent to the people who put them on they. I did some research on keyloggers
and downloaded a software to detect them, A keylogger was detected on the very software jeff recommeneded I download.
So, it appears they've bugged my computer. I am going to take this computer to a specialist and have it analyzed. obody is monitoring XXX computer. And so, I am running more tests to check this out, and I will photograph the evidence,
and do a screen shot. I am running more tests and with different softwares and such and photograph each detection, then I think we need contact FBI, to see if they are authorized to do this,
I an uninstalling the software, and running the keylogger program again,. I just opened up an online backing for Gods sake.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I am not accussing you of anything. I am seeing evidence of a keylogger on the computer software you recommended. I download by another piece of software, whether you did it or not is a question not answered yet.
I have to run more tests. I do know this, there was an intrusion attempt from washing dc, that I took a screen shot of, and, I do know that you said the fbI was watching, And I do know that the IP
of klines "email sent to legal authorities" has orginating IP in dc not Dundee.
. What is that about???
The pic of the source signal from dc was sent to XXX. So why dont you clarify with some direct questions: are you authorized by the FBI to monitor me in anyway or are you doing that of your own accord, and is the FBI simply looking at my website, or, have they monitored my router or anything else. I am not looking at XXX activity, or yours, I have a right to know.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM
To: jeffrey butler
Jeff, thx for clearing this up but here's the thing.
A Keylogger was required to steal that last post and here's why.
I saved the url of the defamation post to my favorites folder.
And I edited that post myself on April 4. But, when I clicked that link from my favorites folder, it went to a log on page. But, my password did not work anymore.
That does mean that somebody was using this IP and info from this computer to switch the url from toylandersblog to just Toylanders and also switch the email to another yahoo acct.
So that would leave three suspects, you, XXX, and eopc. I dont believe it was you now. That leaves XXX and EOPC. I also dont believe eopc could post the this on their website, that when I saved their pages on me they said I violated copyright
law by saving those pages, even tho they admit archiving
38 edits of my blog.
the path was C:/mydocuments/gary/desktop/mamoonfiles
they could not know that without spyware.
I downloaded another software, and it turned up spyaxe
a high threat security issue. Also, on the internet one poster
suggested antispyware was a scam. Other articles dont say that.
But, my computer has been illegally hacked by XXX or eopc. or possibly both. I believe doj guidelines are followed by topflight, in short I believe you.
I am going to find out who made those downloads at lulu
and whether smith sent eopc those passwords and whether
they were involved. THat would be theft, also, if there were
additional downloads over 49 after a password change, that would be hackery. And the IP or IPS would say who.
.And after I get that info, I will decide what action to take, if any.
I would urge XXX, that if he is turning these tricks witn eopc for fun, a hard rain is going to fall on him. I will spare no expense to prosecute the lot, and this is no idle threat,
You, in large measure Scott, have been mostly fair on this although Scott has a biased idea of cause and effect on this
Kinky XXX started this mess.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM
To: jeffrey butler
Jeff, I am republishing the article "when will google answer the phone" without names.
I am doing it for a few reasons
1. It not only identifies a problem, but it poses a solution
2. it accounts for the residual that is still out there,
I think the article makes good points, it will be posted in the commentary section
of www,thetoylanderstpi.com
If EPOC goes uncriticized, they become dangerous. Too powerful, but, this new
version does not name them, it deals with the generic problem.
Regards, Powers should have no issue, but I bet XXXX will report it, he's stalking my website.
Gary
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM
To: Gary Stone
By all means go a head I have no objection.
From: Gary Stone
To: jeffrey butler
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:49:31 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I will forward the link when I am done editing, maybe later this afternoon. Thx
Gary
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:19 PM
To: jeffrey butler
Ok Jeff here it is...bet a nickle XXX makes an issue.
But, this needs to be said. Again, there are no names.
excepy J dog.
Gary
http://thetoylanderstpi.com/The_Toylanders/googlephone.html
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:24 PM
To: Gary Stone
If your interested in putting a case together against the EOPC let me know.
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:19:01 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:28 PM
To: jeffrey butler
Can you identify the anon poster, and the person who blocked my deletion? I think fighter one, is sandra brown, but cant prove it. Also, Smith would have to be brought in to such a case.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM
To: Gary Stone
He is back a it and leave it all up. It is evidence until they are willing to pay and finish this case .I will need to doumnet all of the new postings and video them.I don't want them down.not till they are collected.
http://usa-pi-investigations.webs.com/
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:28:35 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
--------
From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM
To: Gary Stone
gary
I want you to post what you want as long as it is about eopc trying to keep Scott off your back I sent a email stating it was evidence.
which i sent over to you that is what I sent scott .i willing to help but only against eopc but if it leads to XXX oh will.
From: jeffrey butler
To: Gary Stone
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM
To: jeffrey butler
what is he talking about, he is back at it? what XXXX have said, is what eopc accepted without question. Keep off of my case, there is nothing about elaine and rick, but - if they are filing, I may have to prempt them.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM
To: Gary Stone
I knew XX would object to your postings oh well.
563-495-4119
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:26:07 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
To: jeffrey butler
two things, I did too, he's a weasel looking for trouble, which is why he told XXXX to not document erasure of my financials. Anyway, two things, you said a month ago that I could keep that post if I removed names, and I did.
Its a good article, the fact that I reference a sociopath, or sociopaths, is irrelevant, as it doesnt name anyone.and, I cleared it thru you
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
To: Gary Stone
We can build a strong case and crimes have been committed but it well take time to put together and you need to be patient.
I would ask you to limit your postings to your site and state only facts and leave names and nick names out. I will need to do stings
and capture evidence as will as collect any evidence you have. The evidence collected then is sent to Mr Powers.Reports are written
and sent to FBI and DOJ. Like to discusss this with you this afternoon may call.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM
To: jeffrey butler
Jeff, it really doesn't sound like scott is on my side.
Show me who sent the anon posts, the emails sent to me
at word press, in which they threatened a legal case, and impresonated a nurse. This article is the only article of anon defamaers. I would prefer to leave XXXX of of it. however, she made 40 false statements, and sent legal documents, All could have been proved false.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM
To: jeffrey butler
what is Powers logic for making more threats. Ask him if he wants to go after eopc.
G
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM
To: Gary Stone
Scott said you have a case against EOPC and you have cooperated and willing to work with you. We have a idea who some of the fighters are but we have to prove it so it is not going to happen overnight. You have a case and anything dealing with XXX you need to take that up with your lawyer. But I would not wait and if interested we would require a $1500.00 retainer. Any monies put into this case are recoverable Thur restitution from criminal cases as will as civil suits.
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:44:30 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I will pay to file the case, provided scot drops the XXX case, and garentees he will not press on harassment issues. Otherwise, you would be working crossed purposes. XXXX's testimony to them, would be part of any case, and so, they would have to prove that what was said on her behalf was true. They can't do that, but obviously her name would come up. Sure, I would file such a case, but you have to see, that XXX's case is based on vendetta. Can you supoena her welfare fraud records from Iverness job centter plus? If you can, you will have done, what they did not do.
They said I manipulated her medicines, but we did nothing her doctor did not recommend, she lied.
They said, I did not have a single copyrighted work, I have 29, they did not check.
They said I stole XXX copyirighted work, and yet. XXX offered them freely in 2007. Never complained to me directly or indirectly, and ignored my lawyers request
to prempt trouble, before the website was put back up. EOPC ignored all of this.
They said her mother was a victim, yes, she is a victim of XXX, and if XXX cheated welfare, she did it in her mothers house, while XXX lived there. I never met her mother. Its one lie after the next.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM
To: Gary Stone
The case would be the EOPC but what Else comes out of it will be on XXX.I would seriouly pursue this.
Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:52:40 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM
To: Gary Stone
Give Scott a call he can explain more. 580-275-9053
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:10 PM
To: jeffrey butler
send link of where to pay.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:34 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I called, no answer, meanwhile, my website is shut down, the whole website, what gives?
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
To: Gary Stone
Cc: scott powers
Go to USPI cyber crime unit fill out intake form.
onceretainer received I will send you a retainer form
western union send confirmation number to tspowers255@yahoo.com
Scott will call you when recevied
send to scott powers
clintion oklahoma 73601 Zip
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:10:27 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM
To: Gary Stone
On phone here call Scott
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:34:00 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM
To: jeffrey butler
ok just spoke to him, will file, and send money tommorow.
I will aggregate all info I have on eopc, and upload it to my server.
and put into a folder.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM
To: Gary Stone
Ok
. Scott asked if there was any way you could make payment over the Western union on Internet sit today
he is going to be out of town. That way I can start right away.
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:23:44 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM
To: Gary Stone
what sites are down
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM
To: jeffrey butler
How do I know he won't use the money to file against me, he threatened in the am. Also, he said
he spoke to Iverness job centre plus, they said "nothing there' the president could not get that info, cause
its data protected. XXX would have to sign a release. I am suspicious about mixed motives, I suppose he'd have to drop the XXXX issue, and state that he has, otherwise, I am working with somebody who is simeueltaneously working against me, makes me uneasy. If he can convince me he knows this is shite, that claims of harassment where largely manipulated by XXX, b. failure to document erasure of my stuff, a simple security issue c and reactions to the monsterous activity at epoc. I didnt intend to use XXX name, she used my name, city, wifes name, photos, etc, and smeared my whole family. I havent emailed them since I was told not to, and nerver will again. He should know they are creeps, you do dont you? You have to be off of XXX case, and on my case. Other wise its conflict of interest.
G
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM
To: Gary Stone
We are no longer working the XXX case. There is no longer a conflict of interest.
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:23:39 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM
To: jeffrey butler
ok I will go online
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:41 PM
To: jeffrey butler
send what you know to be valid western union link
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I will send 1800
and you will go to work, I want those bastards busted,
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM
To: Gary Stone
http://www.westernunion.com/info/homePage.asp?country=CN
http://www.westernunion.com/info/homePage.asp?country=CN
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:43:59 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM
To: jeffrey butler
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They wont send, after 30" I must have guess the age ofd my house wrong,
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I will have to do it in the am, sorry, I will look for license tpnight
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM
To: Gary Stone
ok
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:23:05 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM
To: jeffrey butler
I will look for license, if I cant find it in the am then, I will fill out form.
There's no quick fix on that tonight,
Meanwhile, I was telling scott that what eopc was trying to do, after getting me to guess which nurse
they were impersonating, was to get me so pissed off at that nurse, that I would write on her, so they could email her, they impersonated her, to a/ smear me, my wife and kids, b/ threaten the legal case, c manipulate me into writing on her, the way I had described in the one page I had initially on line, at wordpress, on what elaine did at soundclick, and how unfair sound click was in their response, XXX had the nurses email. They would send the nurse the url, and get her to sue me.
How fn sinister is that. You dont get over stuff like this. And comes from collusion with XXX and XXXX went public first at sound click. That page she had was sinister as hell.
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM
To: jeffrey butler
IThis is XXX denying she knows me, she denies she knows who jdog is, she denies knowing fighter, and doesnt know what dating psychos is, or what eopc is, and yet, she wrote on yidwithlid
at eopc, and jdog identifies her as making that post, by IP and email, this is her denial at facebook.
G
Hi XXXBeXXXtween Barbara XXXX and You
Gary Stone
March 28 at 6:47pm
I have an issue with some of your articles, as you know. I think
you might actually be defaming me, and in violation of fedral laws
by, up until now anyway, doing it anonymously.
Please remove your defamatory articles from MIndsay and EOPC.
Sincerely
Gary Stone
XXXMarch 29 at 12:17am
Report Message
I told you once sir I don't know who the fuck you are!
I don't have accounts on Minsay or EOPC and I don't even know what the latter IS!
My hotmail account was phished 2x in the last 7 months and my computer hacked. My mail & IP were used to post on forums and to sign up for information... I am still trying to straighten this out with MSN, Level 3 and other providers as it's Identity Theft.
I don't know you and I don't like these messages you are sending me.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM
To: Gary Stone
Need jdogs evidence against XXXX. The email and Ip number. I know who jdog is and were he lives
and compaines he owns he is a bad apple.
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:30:28 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:21 AM
To: jeffrey butler
tell me if you got that whole thread
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:59 AM
To: jeffrey butler
If scot is serious about appltying federal and civil charges to eopc, the case would be huge.
what do you think?
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:04 AM
To: jeffrey butler
another point, they make money online, donations and google ads and books, they say they are
from the dominican republic, and lie about that because they are not - do they pay taxes, could get them for tax evasion too. Could be big, cause each instance of posting defamation, is a separate count, sandra brown, also is a licensed social worker, she has diagnosed online (illegal, licensed or not) her career would be over. If XXX gave them the password to lulu.com
they could have been involved in theft, and hackery.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:14 AM
To: Gary Stone
Got it thanks
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:21:09 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM
To: Gary Stone
Big time case.
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:59:53 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:14 AM
To: Gary Stone
Will be looked into. Send Scott and I western union tracking number as soon as you have one.
Will be going on a fishing exibition as soon as payment is made. Statrting with XXX.
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:04:46 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM
To: jeffrey butler
I have to speak to Jim first, major concerns. Wont be able to use western because they wont accept a temp license, have to wait for duplicate. Sorry, due diligence first. I am checking licensure, and checking some other stuff, there are negative reviews online. Thats all for now.
G
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:43 AM
To: Gary Stone
I understand no problem..The negatives are a former client that broke our contract terms.If you look she retracted her negative statements.
I still speak to her by email on a daily bases.
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:25:22 AM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM
To: Gary Stone
Gary
I'm going to be up front with you.
1.Scott has contacts in the FBI Cyber Crime Unit and DOJ that we go directly threw.
2. People come to us because there local law enforcement turn them down.
3. There is a back log of cases 3 years deep with the FBI. We get around it.
4.You can go threw Jim .But you need some one that is well versed in cyber crime.
and conduct the investigation.We have done a lot of this type of work saving the FBI time .
Thats how we get cases done.
We are your best shot at this. We are quite busy, and we need a yes or no.
Best Regards
JEFF
563-495-4119
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:02 PM
To: jeffrey butler
The part I dont like is the pressure tactic, see I dont respond to pressure.
I wont be manipulated, Jim is out of the country, I dont know if he will take such a case. I dont know if federal prosecutors will. I dont know shit, I am not saying a./ that I dont have one, I do,
b. I am also not saying you cant handle it - you probably can
x, I am saying I have to talk to jim. I think I will cc jim on this...
I am worried about what I see as pressure, as if the case would go away. I am worried about alternating threats with offers to go after them. I AM
From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:05 PM
To: jeffrey butler
Why dont you email him. If he agrees, Ill go for it.
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From: jeffrey butler
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:07 PM
To: Gary Stone
I understand let me know when we have many cases and have to block our time. No preasure.
If Jim can't handel it there are cyber crime lawyers in your State.
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 6:02:23 PM
Subject: Re: keyloggers
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:40 AM
To: jeffrey butler
I dont think I am going to go with you guys. Too mercenary. I was threatened in the am over
nothing, one of many. I was told to leave smith/kline out of it, when they are as guilty as eopc, vis a vie anonymous defamation, and theft, harassment, indirect thru eopc, sex harassment, and libel. YOU HEDGED ON THAT
thats another thing, scott said, fed prosecutors would handle the case, Jim would do parts like supoenas,
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:52 AM
To: jeffrey butler
Also, you have been working with eopc, since december of 2008.
"legal authorities cant keep up with him" it was you/kline and eopc, who
tracked where I saved their pages.
C'//,mydocuments/desktop/mamoonfiles
"THANKS GUYS"
remember?
G
In principle I think fighter one is diabolical, qnd belongs in jail, sandra brown, and xxx
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM
To: jeffrey butler
lAstly,
when I spoke to scott, he was taping me, I could hear the beeps,
now he must think Im stupid, you are supposed to announce when you
do that. It shows too many crossed purposes, it wasnt my job to tolerate
all of this duplicity. i dont need to function covertly. XX has no civil case, so hes trying to get me in jail. It may backfire on him. As it is, I could sue XXX, and file my own criminal charges, and I may, depending on what I get from lulu.
G
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From: Gary Stone
Date: Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:27 PM
To:
Powers did not want me to talk to XXX XXbefore sending him money, I think he;s a crook.
Forwarded conversation
Subject: Re: keyloggers
------------------------
From: jeffrey butler
Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM
To: Gary Stone
Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM
To: jeffrey butler
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Date: Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM
To: jeffrey butler
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Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM----------
From: jeffrey butler
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM
To: Gary Stone
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM----------
Date: Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:19 PM----------
From: jeffrey butler
Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:24 PM
To: Gary Stone
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Date: Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:28 PM----------
From: jeffrey butler
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM
To: Gary Stone
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Sandra Brown MA, EOPC, Who is the exposer? From Mindsay
by Gary Stone on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 12:51am
I have heard from Brown's people, they say it is XXX behind this story
Brown, they say, does not endorse eopc anymore. And, that - she is being attacked
by XXX, so where we criticize Brown below, think XXX or XXX
the person who filed Elaine May SmitXXXX h's case, had his license removed in November
of 2009. Scott Powers
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Here is a reference page for the main page, a dissection of an old blog, by the Fighters, from EOPC. It can only be seen in context, by reading the main page.
This is a copy of the eopc blogs, from 08. We will go thru each statement as we did before and we will hyperlink to evidence. XXX's story from 08 was proven bullocks
This is the Exposer from the mindsay article. This is the kind of activity Sandra Brown endorses, I don't know if this is Sandra, but, it is one of the fighters. There will be very specific references to each allegation. As there were in 08. I will work on reviewing all of this in the same context as before, using the evidence I used before and reviewing this with the evidence they have now, as well. Think of it as going back in time, to address the Monster who wrote this...one of the Fighters. The word victim is so abused here it will be x'd out in all intances. I will substitute xxxx instead. Eliminating the word victim vs takes something out of the article. Audiences soak this stuff up, and I want to show you how they draw them in, with that words. I will also put ((((( ))))) around hyperbole,and their word play, and choice. Their unreseached statements, in short, I will substitute fact for fiction. You will see how demonic they are. This should be fun for them and the reader. It shows their style...how damaging it is...but I will show you that they had no clue what they were saying statement by statement. ( I will work on this all week) In the interim, read the main blog, as - they have essentially rehashed this nonsense. And what this is really about, is explained there.
Watch this space for how the below, developes. Their statements and mine will be off set by colors. The expose of these pigs will take a long time. It will eventually be a book. And a criminal investigation, that I hope will lead to the removal of Sandra Brown's license to practice in her state, And, the ultimate dissolution of this group called EOPC.
One of the sites that is refered to in this article is this one.
Even the owner of the photo bucket account could be under subpoena (there's a hyperlink to that accoout below. This article, one they wrote at Mindsay in 2008 is a rich source of evidence,and a great way to show you how they play the game, sitting behind their anonymous identity, having no facts, except the lies that XXX Plied them with. They checked none of this story, and weaved this psycho drama, They gradually found out, their Victim was a fraud. So this is an excercise that should prove productive, you can see, how people would eat this up. But it is the kind of tripe that is easily disproved, if you can get a chance to speak. They censor free speech. They went to mindsay support, and blocked my answers and evidence, and had me shut down. This will take some time complete. Perhaps a few weeks to a month. It is taking rough shaoe now.
, but I am very glad I saved this one, and others if only for the links on the pages. As they point to owners of accounts. They're in for a dose of reality And since we are dealing with some real whackos here. In fime you will see their undoing.
Their mindsay story begins here. My statements in blue. (((( )))) is meant to show how, knowing
You started seeing this come out, in 08, and the rats at eopc started jumping ship.
Oh my website, yes, the one that has been shut down by XXX 32 times in one year.
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I presume you read the letter to my wife and so you can compare how rude she was to what XX wrote back. I will hyperlink both.
On the XXX Stories. Not exactly "wrote," there was barely a XXXstory that was written entirely by XXX, I think most were me feeding her the plot as in the the Rock Armageddon article, remember step by step we did go through that. XXXX wrote two possibly three by herself. I still write for that character as you know. The rest were co-writen. The orginal concept was conceived together. Think John Cleese and Connie Booth. XXXe is Connie with no character and far less talent.
Hold here for Sandra's little red book, look for key words (((( MIND CONTROL))))) and (((( ROLE PLAYING ))))) does this show up in her BOOKS? Save this for Oprah, maybe she'll buy it. Remember, we are dealing with XXX types, the fighter her cheated on her husband, wrecked her marriage, screwed up her child and blamed it on the cad YIDwithlid. "who the fuck is fighter" XXX. I'd by Powers and Jdog. Her email was in html of the first issue.
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Gary Stone, through (((( love-bombing )))))and subsequent (((() mind control )))))soon ((((coerced)))) & ((((lured)))) this xxxx into (((cybersex))) (haha, see my comments on that, from my first email to her when she got back, Elaine turned out quite a pro, I was the novice - "interlewds" she called them..."fuck me like you mean it:") via ((role-playing scenarios,)))) which the xxxx initially played along (hahah) with IN FUN ONLY, (fun? with married men, oh yes, there have been lots of them haven't there - 7 at last count --she called her orgasims "hat tricks" .I was holding on for dear life. She had fun alright, we couldn't keep up with her "urgent needs" ) starting with the 'audition in the shower' No it started with "I'll anywhere with you"
I remember the audition, she said she'd like to play my recorder in the shower, in very early January, after I said I recorded there, not in the shower with water running, the acoustics in the bathroom are great) ; followed by ((( romps))))'in the office ', 'on the beach', (there was a beach??? No, no beach) ((('in the court-room))), etc (court room? now that would be interesting. Could you publish all of this end to end please, Im getting excited.) .
(aw poor victim again)
((((Little))))) did the cxxxxm ((((realize___ that Stone's probable (((( psychopathy)))) & magical thinking blurred the line for him between real and imagined events! Hold on, where are you so far in this spectrum? Out left field.
what exactly do mean by blurred reality. Here's a dose of reality, after I got sent back from scotland. Let's look at you Myth of isolation, shall we?Another Sandra ism, I suppose I was delusional and never went to Scotland July 2, 2007, after SHE called my house, and got me kicked out???
By the way, XXX said, she hates it when XXX does this line item analysis. Maybe he had her number. But, he doesn't have mine. I have his, and yours. When XXX got back, everyting had to be about XXX, and of course "she was made to do it" this is XXX delusion. One manufactured for him by XXXX. Rem, she was back in scotland, and she had to justify XXX, the one everyone hated, and she had to "live with XXXX" so some mythology had to e created, one that even he didn't believe.
Yes I know she has a problem with reality and so do you. And you found this out the hard way in 08, didn't you. You said I sent her porn, and it turned out the opposite.
For role playing seeXXXand for that matter Fighter, and eopc, playing super spy.
(redacted)
I have clipped the rest, as we have established a pattern of very definite lies.
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When guys go crazy, the rob banks or something when women go crazy they create tangles that are impossible to untie, soap opera, complications, abd just when you think you have it, it changes shape, with some bizzare new twist. Oprah Jerry Springer, and Nauri , day time TV on LSD
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Gary Stone Between Rick Kline eopc and Jdiog XXX, other fighters there has never been a bigger gathering of fuckwits in i one spot
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Conspiracy theories abound. Let us just say 2 things:
The PIs mentioned here? Contacted EOPC for money to go after Stone; contacted XXXX (who Stone is CONVINCED is us... lol) for money to go after Stone; Contacted Stone to go after us and others... see how it works? Con men playing high pressure games with vulnerable people...
Also our relationship with Sandra Brown, MA was terminated a few years back. We learned she is practicing without a license and without proper business filings. We advise others not to use her services any longer
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XXXX hard drive would reveal every fighter everywhere, and could destrou the whole operation.
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Gary Stone XXX, you are a fool
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Gary Stone eopc was 100 percent n behind dating psychos and probabky 100 person brown, until sone one gets her number Now it is pretty clear what kind of filth has been supporting smith
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The person I talked to, says XXX wrote new comments, Mary Mcmahnon I the spelling have made new comments, the story is XXXX per the person who called is a total sociopattj. Onlu ealrl has been sent evidence, that was sent
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Gary Stone XXX wriote most of the 2008 story, why she is messing with me, I have no idea.as she is in deep legal trouble. XXX, if you are watching, I told you know who about your dss issues
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Gary Stone You had to get frisky didn't you XXX?
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Gary Stone XXX, you are on disabilty not welfare,
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Gary Stone and you are trying to screw someone who is, Sandra Brown
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(our comments in DARK BLUE)
- by Gary Stone on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 11:40am
Notice to Facebook. There have numerous attacks on me by the cyberpath blog.
There have been numerous attacks on me by XXXX.
First at the soundclick in 2008 then. Then At the cyberpath blog, where I battled her smears of me for 8 months. XXXs smears and theirs were debunked (really? in his head maybe... lol)
factually, and with hard evidence.
XXXX has attacked me again at Soundclick with her "fairy Gerry" recordings and her Auntie XXXX page there, her recordings are subtle smears of me and my wife. She has moved those recordings here. This site is not appropriate for XXXX's personal vendettas. Facebook. (no but Facebook has to endure Stone's 'personal vendettas'.)
The cyberpath blog has been behind these grotesque attacks (like we have the time or resources...)
Because she XXX, was criticized by me here for setting up her Auntie XXX page here, and garnering numerous people to support her as friends, she has hyperlinked the Auntie XXX page to Mearns radio, where there are 515 fans and since she updates those pages, she is, ostensibly a fan of her self.
She has also created an XXXX page, where as her real name, she becomes a fan of Mearns Radio and Auntie XXXX and vice versa, this is very subtle but real instigation and taunting. (so? plenty of business people do that.)
The cyberpath blog has repuplished XXX 2008 attacks as a result of my criticism of XXX criticisms. The cyberpath blog encourages vendetta, but when they are critcized for their support of it, they try to censure the criticism (This group, is extremely manipulative and dangerous) (LOL!)
The cyberpath blog has shut down every legitimate criticism of their aggressions and XXX, at zimbio, mindsay, and wordpress. While propagating their smears there. The first cause is always, XXXXX and the EOPC fighters, and what comes next, is my response. (legitimate? lol)
They were unable to prevent me from defending my self against these attacks only at Bravenet, and Google. (But labeled my Bravenet defense Malware) If I was not able to defend my self at Google and Bravenet, there would still be six pages of negative information in Google. Already, by renewing these attacks for my critique of Auntie XXXX at facebook, based on previously debunked smears, Google is filling up again.
The cyberpath blog is very skilled with influencing support teams of OSP (who?)'s, usally they use false statements and pathos unsubstantiated pathos.
Please read about this history from an article on my website called Google Doesn't Answer the Phone, and this article at the hub
The Malignant Power of Anonymous Defamation.
Auntie Audrey has been reported numerous times without effect
The recordings are here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Auntie-XXXX/178103935562101
XXXXX, has subtley hidden these recordings when she has been criticized
by first 1/ Adding phony questions and answers and pretense, at being an a comedic agony aunt.
2/ And by adding a second layer of "cover" by dragging in people she has manipulated at Soundclick to support the perverse recordings there, giving the appearance supporting musicians
The cyberpath blog will make some attempt to stop what they say is my harassment of XXX, but XXXX was not discussed here, until they and she moved those perverse recording here, wherein , a series of computer attacks occured, and escalated in tandem, to XXX garnering increased support for this perverse page.
Removal of all criticism of the cyberpath blog or XXXX is contingent on first cause
1./ removal of the offensive Auntie XXX page at facebook which has had three incarnations, in case one was successfully shut down.
2/ removal of the cyberpath blog's rehash of XXXXattack on me, which is a response to my criticism of XXXX's Auntie XXXXX page.
3./ Removal of the fairy XXXX series and "album" at soundclick.
I will not have the cyberpath blog, or Sandra Brown MA, endorsing the cyberpath blog while they smeared me, and she perhaps participated in those smears circa October 2008 - April 2009, at which time all blogs on this subject were ordered down by Scott Powers PI. (ordered? Powers never ordered us to do anything; and he had no authority to order anything) And then tolerate her complaining when she is criticized for the current smears and past smears, at the cyberpath blog.
The relevant pages (relevant to who?)
are these: http://hubpages.com/hub/defamationdangers
criticisms of the model of anonymous defamation in general and a general description of the cyberpath blog's smears, here: http://thetoylanderstpi.com/The_Toylanders/googlephone.html
(their history above)
The current pages that have been republished by EOPC, as a result of my criticism of the Auntie Audrey instigation's,
has resulted in a serious critique of this group, and Sandra Brown's endorsement of Exposure sites, that critique is located here:
http://cybercrimerickkineelainemaysmith.blogspot.com/
The cyberpath blog, and Sandra Brown, will have official sounding people like Jeffery Butler, or Scott Powers back them up, and they will usually say the most outrageous and false things behind the scenes, in order to censure. But the fact is, that the fighters of the cyberpath blog, and XXXX, and XXXX, have been stalking me, everywhere I go, (No. Sorry.)
If there is an attempt to contact facebook. I am suggesting facebook communicate with me, before "reacting" to "any official sounding language. The reality is that all of these people have been reported to FBI , Ic3.gov and the report was filed after a "false witness" filing was submitted by Scott Powers. His filing was succesfully defeated. The reality is always more complicated than they allow OSP's to believe. If facebook is contacted, please communicate any statements that have been made. I have no objection to removing all content about XXX, provided all content I find offensive, is also removed.
I would suggest facebook take a seruous look behind the veneer of Auntie XXX, XXXX And the cyberpath blog.
all are victimizers, who play victim, (projection) but this role is getting too much miliage, what the cyberpath blog wants - ultimately - is internet dominance. (huh? ROFL!!!) Please consult with me before taking any action on any complaint. These people never tell the truth. This is a serious study, the mother of a small child, with a stress ilnness, unsubstantiated FBI assessments, alledged death threats, (law enforcement is in possession of the death threats) stalking, harassment, cyberpath, these words will be used to cause false alarm, but the truth is much more complicated, and they have not told it yet. I have children too and they have smeared them, I have have been diagnosed with post truamtic sydrome and have been hospitalized and I can prove it. They make these statements about Smith, and never offer proof, Sandra Brown will cite her patients, and lost credibilty, but on study of my critique of her, we will see how she, by her endorsement, and XXXX, have helped destroy my career, And, have attacked everything else I do, on the internet, music art writing
Please communicate any concerns to me. My interest is in having Sandra Browns licensing board examine her Exposure site endorsement, and her ethics. And, also to provde a closer look, at these Watchers, as serious thoughtful study will show, that they exist in violation of the federal communications act, and have commited numerous crimes (no. sorry again. we don't.) ...they have also involved Ally Byrd (who?) and soundclick support, in this attack. The presence of Auntie XXX on facebook, is the tail end, of 2.5 years of cybercrime. The federal communications act, makes it a felony, to smear anonymously, or threaten or taunt. or insult. The reason it does, is - there is no remedy to stop it, and civil consequences are blocked, by anonmity. The punishment for this "felony" is 18 months in prison, and or/fines. for each instance. Even anon complaints, are "instances"
Thank You/...
Respectfully,
Gary Stone
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Self-Victimization - "Playing The Victim"
Definition:
Self-Victimization - Self-Victimization, or "playing the victim" is the act of casting oneself as a victim in order to control others by soliciting a sympathetic response from them or diverting their attention away from abusive behavior.
Description:
Most of us, if we are honest will admit that when we describe events or share stories, we will try to portray ourselves in the most favorable light possible. Playing the Victim is something even small children learn to do from an early age, crying crocodile tears, showing a petted lip or sulking when we don't get exactly what we want, when we want it.
As we mature as adults, most of us learn to take responsibility for our own situations and our own mistakes and we learn not to blame others for things which are not their fault. We begin to learn that most people can see through insincere attempts at manipulating their emotions.
Some people with personality disorders, however, do not learn how to mature beyond this stage and continue exaggerated, even blatantly dishonest campaigns to arouse the sympathies of others, even sometimes when their charade appears ridiculous or blatantly disingenuous to observers around them. Sometimes, these campaigns continue to get them what they want, as exasperated family members with weak boundaries try to appease them or just give them what they want in the hope that they will just give it a rest. This is similar to spoiled children, who learn to get what they want from parents with poor boundaries by throwing tantrums, whining, nagging or making ultimatums and threats.
Sometimes playing the victim is used to divert attention away from a person's own abusive or dysfunctional behavior. If people's attention can stay focused on another individual then the abuser hopes that attention will not rest on their own flaws.
The goal of Self-Victimization is to control the responses of other people in one of two ways: - Divert attention away from acts of abuse by claiming that the abuse was
justified based on another person's bad behavior (typically the victim) - Solicit sympathy from others in order to gain their assistance in supporting
or enabling the abuse of a victim - also known as proxy recruitment.
It is very common for perpetrators of abuse to engage in self-victimization. This serves two purposes:
Justification to themselves - as a way of dealing with the cognitive dissonance that results from inconsistencies between the way they treat others and what they believe about themselves. - Justification to others - as a way of escaping harsh judgment or condemnation they may fear from people whom they wish to please or impress.
- Examples of Playing The Victim:
- A spouse who is having an affair, claims the other partner drove them to it.
- A narcissistic boss mistreats a subordinate and claims the subordinate's behavior was hurting the company and he had to do it.
- What it Feels Like:
If you are in a relationship with someone who plays the victim, it is easy to feel like you are in the classic "damned if you do and damned if you don't" scenario. No matter how much you try, how well you behave, or how much you sacrifice, your actions and efforts can never fill the bottomless pit of "need" that is presented to you - and to others about you. Once you solve problem "A", problem "B" suddenly appears.
This happens is because the true "need" is inside the mind of the person who is playing the victim. What they really need is to address their own illness with treatment programs that work. That requires effort and rigorous work on their own part. It has nothing to do with you. Even if you had the character of Gandhi, Mother Theresa and Saint Francis rolled into one, you could never fill the void - because it is a problem inside another person.
At some point, you are likely to feel resentment and frustration as you realize that your efforts are being consumed and not reciprocated. Worse still, you may find you are the focus of the personality-disordered individual's resentments and complaints. - What NOT to do:
- Don't try to justify yourself or your actions to a person who is casting themselves as the victim. It's their illusion and they are entitled to believe whatever they want in it.
- Don't admit to or apologize for anything that you haven't done wrong. Stick to the truth.
- Don't try to compensate for a self-victimizer's complaints by increasing your own effort. Spend your energy on what works.
- Don't retaliate or strike back at someone who cast themselves as a victim. You are just pouring fuel on their fire.
- Don't assume that everyone who hears a self-victimizer's complaints believes it. Most people can smell a rat when a story doesn't ring true.
- What TO do:
- Try to be as unemotional as possible. Try to judge on facts, not feelings.
- Keep doing what you know is right - regardless of what a self-victimizer tells you.http://www.outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/SelfVictimization.html
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