Sandra Brown, MA turned priviledged information about domestic violence victims who were being sued by a possible sociopath OVER TO THE SOCIOPATH and to known and self-declared cyberstalker, BETSY ASHBY -- no questions asked!
From: Sandra Brown
Date: Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:58 AM
Subject: Pending Law Suit
To: Mary McGrannahan
Forgive the delay Mary...I imagine you are shoveling snow as am I.
I am so sorry to learn of the pending lawsuit. I sent an email to Barbara yesterday that I will forward to you as well. Much of her email is also in this email to you that explains The Institute's policy in case you had questions about our approach.
Yesterday I also received a Demand Letter which I am attaching to this email.
The Institute's approach is to simply provide Public Pathology Education to organizations or projects that request it. As an educational program our policy is to remain neutral to 'who' the organization or project is that requests it, or why they want our collaboration, information, education, or advisory capacities. The personality conflicts that occur within, or on the outside of, the organizations and or projects, we remain out of to the best of our ability. (doesn't look that way Sandra - looks like you took sides without checking facts - then sicced your pitbull Betsy Ashby on those that called you out.)
I am reviewing the attorneys request and what is legally required of us and have forwarded this in the meantime to an advocate The Institute is familiar with. She is knowledgeable about this type of case and has been through what you, Mary and Melissa are going through. I am turning this over to her at this time as I am in the process of coordinating the details of my sister's memorial and preparing to leave for Florida. Her name is Betsy.
Please know that I hope for all three of you that somewhere, somehow, this is resolved.
Prayers for a peaceful resolution!
Sandra L. Brown, M.A.,
The Institute for Relational Harm Reduction & Public Pathology Education
QUOTE FROM AN EOPC SUPPORTER: "this is absolutely REVOLTING that a woman who claims to support victims of psychopaths has a (probable) PSYCHOPATH as her ASSISTANT!"
Yes, and that volunteer 'assistant' or 'advocate' has access to the information of everyone Sandra's ever talked to, emailed with, etc. Ashby has even posted screen shots of Brown's COMPUTER here to shore up her case as to who is running EOPC. She is also feeding people like Gary Stone this "information" to enable and cover for her buddies - Sandra Brown, MA and Laura Knight Jadcyzk.
Read on Mr. Stone - and see what has been on the net for years about your new SOURCE - Betsy Ashby... As much as you hate us Stone, you might stop to think about the damage someone this toxic might do to your cases. Remember that disordered people frequently use absolute terms like "always" and/or "never." Just like your new buddy Betsy Ashby. We know she's probably got a "plausible explanation" for all of it, right? It was this person -- no it was this person AND this person -- no Brown told me it was ABC -- wait, Knight - Jadcyzk told me it was XYZ and I have PROOF! Maybe I , she, he, they doctored it or planted it! It's you and me against the world Gary Stone!
This person below is calling out Ashby & Brown for involving themselves in her lawsuit. CLICK HERE - Good for her. Of course Ashby and Stone are now screaming this person is us as well. LOL.
Ashby is threatening to file complaints against people right and left including us. (Sounds like all the predators we've exposed!) Ashby does know the legal system because she's been mired in it so often because of her relentless behaviors.
There's this from 2003 (before EOPC came online in 2005) from a public, searchable forum:
- $5,000 REWARD
To Whom It May Concern:
Beginning in 2003
Students of Dynion Mwyn, after beginning their studies and joining the
DM General Study Group, were subject to threats attempting to intimidate them
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terrorist methods. These people refused to disclose their true identities, and
under this cloak of deceit; became bold enough to break the law on several
occasions. Their status as a 'hidden identity' also gave them a confrontational and aggressive false bravado, as they believed that even if they did commit illegal acts, no one will be able to find them to prosecute them. These people joined the DM General Group using aliases, harvested e-mail addresses and then unsubscribed.
Luckily, here in the United States we have recently-passed laws on the books to address this and other such cowardly behavior.
Each person must decide what it true, and which path to take; we have no agenda in
turning anyone one way or another. We are for the most part United States
Citizens with the inalienable right of freedom of religion; and therefore free
to worship as we see fit. This particular issue not only is the catalyst for the
birth of this country, but also is the cornerstone of our Constitution. No one
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Criminals named below, be warned: We will continue to use our resources in this
manner until you are convicted.
A FIVE-THOUSAND DOLLAR (USD) REWARD IS
For information leading to the arrest, prosecution, and conviction of the following
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Hu Gadarn - The Goat of Mendez
Iorwerth ap Idwal
Anthony Palazzo, aka Robin Artisson
Keith Morgan, aka Kimberly Morgan
Gryffudd, aka kernewekdrelyther
and anyone else who originated or passes on the following violations:
For violations of the United States Violence Against Women Act and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act of 2005, Section 113 including:
- Criminal defamation;
- Invasion of Privacy;
- Internet Harassment ;
- Internet "Cyber-Stalking";
- Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress;
- Ongoing Annoyance by "Alter Ego" Personas
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- Defamation With Malice
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5. Immediate Family Member's Names, Including Spouse, Parents, Children, Partners,
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8. Names, Locations, and Contact Information of Friends and Associates Within the
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Knowing that not all information will facilitate a conviction of these individuals; the offeror of this reward reserves the right to determine the amount, if any that will be rewarded for your information. All information should be submitted via email query to determine if it qualifies for a reward. We have obtained much of the above information already, and are currently seeking verification of such, as well as new information on the above individuals. PLEASE QUERY to see if we already have your piece of information. The dollar amount of partial rewards will be determined by the offeror, and all decisions are final. Anonymous information is acceptable, and when verified and determined by the offeror to be instrumental to the arrest, prosecution and/or conviction of the above persons, will earn the same reward as information disclosed under your true legal identity.
the person who posted this information and further information can be found at this link:
Then there's this public websearchable post about a 2008 event ran by Guardian aka Betsy Ashby and what she's charging and DOING!:
Membership into the 2008 Fall Gathering of the Tribes costs:
$50.00 (without workshare $60.00) until Monday, September 1, 2008
$60.00 (without workshare $70.00) after Monday, September 1, 2008 until Monday, October 6, 2008
$75.00 (without workshare $85.00) after Monday, October 6, 2008 and AT THE GATE.
You may register at the gate between the hours of 10 am & 7 pm. ONLY Thursday, October 9, 2008 - Sunday, October 12, 2008.
Children 16 and under are admitted free. The Gathering fee includes tent camping in the primitive area. Water, sewer and electric RV hook-ups cost extra and must be reserved in advance. The Fall Gathering will open at NOON on Thursday, October 9, 2008 and close 4 p.m. Monday, October 13, 2008.
COMMENT FROM THIS POSTING:
Do you enjoy watching the other women and young girls?
This Gathering will be semi-clothing optional. No exposed genitalia! Bring your fig leaves folks, there will be many children present. Women being equal to men may go topless in the event area. Unfortunately. women are required by law to cover their breasts in the public area of the campground.
Betsy Ashby and Dawn Severson with Out of the Dark, Inc. will be the only photographers allowed at the Gathering of the Tribes!!
Enjoy taking pictures of young girls much?
AND THIS FROM 6 years ago (nothings changed - as Brown's own books say pathologicals are known by their inability to change & grow):
Date: Sat Mar 5, 2005 11:15 pm
Subject: Just received this camgroup23
Send Email Send Email
To Rhuddlwm Group.
Subject: The Virginia Person you mentioned. Betsy Ashby.
Where to start. This person is a very sick individual. And the messages and web pages she has authored are very common to her. She may be off her meds again. She is a schizophrenic and a sociopath. She is a very sad and hateful person. She has no life.
If you look at some of her other user profiles. She stated in one that she has no family except her Significant Other, who is another sick one if it is her that writes the porn, could also be her, it's hard to tell because of all the user names their stuff falls under.
But I can tell you, she has had her share of problems with losing credit accounts, facing felony charges, restraining orders, etc. Reading that she has nothing to hide about made me fall off my chair. And she scares most of the neighbors with her crazy antics. Just let me know if there is anything else you want to know cause like I say I can go on and on.
You sound like a very kind person who has taken very personally the ill will of these people. And I hope that you will not let anything she writes affect your feelings for Lord Rhuddlwm. Because that is exactly what she is trying to do, cast a doubt, make you question your own faith. And please do not give her that power. She is very good at doing that, that is what she thrives on.
I have tried to explain what kind of person she is, but maybe I can paint a better picture. She is a very sick woman, the fact that she will create different screen names and then use them to try and validate herself shows how low she is willing to go. She is really a very sad, lonely, hate filled person.
And she creates all this false stuff about herself to make her seem like she is someone important. She has attended the one gathering in 1991 and no others. It is to easy to tell what a fraud she is when you meet her. She cannot keep friends because she does to them exactly what she is trying to do here. Be something she isn't and hurt those who are.
She tried to ruin a very good man in Pennsylvania. He is the type of man who will earn less just so he can help others, but she literally almost made him lose his land, with bogus charges. It was so bad, they made up false claims that this man had to get a restraining order and it got so bad that if she so much as opens her mouth and mention his name she will be charged with multiple felonies.
I can list person after person she has tried to hurt in one way or another. Either by her words or by her actions. She says she agree with her philosophies 100%, but she doesn't understand the meaning of do no harm. She has said many times that she is not really a Pagan.
She is a sad sight. She sits in front of her computer and makes up this world that she wants to live in, but in reality, she is just a wanna be. Her life is empty, even her friends don't want to be a part of her life.
Everyone in town refers to her as the "Kook". So all I can say is please just ignore her, let her engage someone else in her games.
Because trust me she is a very smart woman and if you give her anything to go on she will continue to haunt you. She absolutely does not understand the meaning of NO.
Sit back and watch, she will move on to the next person, or thing to attack because that is what keeps her going. And trust yourself, you know your aunt and how you feel for her and you know Lord Rhuddlwm and how you feel for him, and don't let this one sick person make you waiver in your beliefs.
I have been a direct target and it has gone on for years and trust me you don't want to be in my place. And if you want I can give you names and you can look up in the public records up here and see for yourself just a portion of what I know about this woman.
And also beware that she is very capable of the bigger problems. I am not accusing her of it, but I am saying that she is very capable of very serious things where the internet is concerned and more.
If you have any other questions feel free to write. And if you have wondered why I have not given out much info about myself it is because after the things I have been through with this woman, I am very careful about who I write to and what information I give out. Actually, you are the first person in a very long time I have even said anything to. I hope this will help you and please keep faith
Yes, Sandra - this is your "VOLUNTEER" and "ADVOCATE" and "VOLUNTEER ASSISTANT"!! This was easily available information online that you didn't even bother to look at before you handed her access to all your vulnerable client's PRIVATE information - computer - and so on.
JUST CLICK HERE TO SEE THAT BROWN HAD US LISTED ON HER WEBSITE WHEN SHE WAS AFFILIATED WITH US -- which she was until VERY recently.
AND THIS on the Indianz.com forum:
"Betsy is your 'significant other' aware of your flirting with young girls? ROFLMAO Dayyum you both like taking pictures of them.
Ashby, who provides security at gay rights rallies, folk music festivals, and other events where tolerance is a central theme, said she found Norse paganism 24 years ago after being raised in a strictly Christian environment that she described as overly male-dominated. "
and this from NewAgeFraud.org:
educatedindian:I've gotten some emails from people asking about Ashby's latest long long looooong series of attacks over at Indianz.
I haven't worried too much about Ashby's latest failed attempts to "get" me. Like always, I generally ignore it and just keep trying to do right. If someone is so dumb as to believe her, they'd probably believe in Elvis being killed by UFOs.
But to briefly sum up who Ashby is and what she's claiming, for anyone new to this:
Betsy Ashby of the self styled Pagan Resource Center of Newport News VA first came after NAFPS and after me personally because NAFPS dared to criticize her idol, Brooke Edwards AKA "Medicine Eagle", a fraud who has spent several decades posing as a Crow medicine woman. Ashby's pagan gathering also hosted a phony "Miami shaman" the Miami had never heard of. It was Ashby's bad luck that I was going to Purdue at the time, and the Miami Nation were not far from me.
Ashby's response in her letters and elsewhere was memorable for a number of things:
She claimed there had been no genocide against NDNs.
She claimed there hadn't even been that many NDNs in the Americas anyway.
She even gave a number, less than 20,000, as supposedly all the NDNs killed by Euro invaders, and claimed NDNs killed far more Europeans and Americans, based on what she pulled from an old racist book.
She also told a story where she bragged Brooke Edwards had tricked a sheriff into shooting an unarmed AIM member protesting her exploiter ceremonies.
Finally she pledged to "spend every cent she had" to shut us down" for daring to criticize exploiters like Brooke Edwards.
That started a now-ten-year-old campaign against NAFPS and myself that must've taken up hundreds of hours on her part, spreading rumors and lies one more ridiculous than the other.
Ashby even set up an supposed anti fraud site. The problem is, she attacks mostly the least harmful ones out there, people with likely distant NDN ancestry who don’t know any better. These are mostly heritage groups she’s pillorying. If she were truly sincere, she’d go after the worst abusers, Nuage frauds like her beloved imposter-for-lots-of-cash Brooke Edwards. If she were truly sincere, she’d apologize and admit her mistake in defending this fraud, and she’d apologize also for smearing the ones out to stop frauds like Edwards, namely any NDN with any sense and any human being with a conscience
The latest nonsense: Supposedly I'm a white nationalist or Nazi whose been pretending to be NDN.
That one has just about everybody at Indianz laughing or their jaws dropping in shock from something so crazy.
I'm about as dark as Adam Beach or Jimmy Smitts. My photo has been posted online enough for anyone to see.
As reluctant as I am to go into my personal life...
(we left some out for brevity but you can read it at NewAgeFraud.org - EOPC)
She's also attacked me for supposedly being Catholic, as though that were a bad thing. Someone tell the Yaqui. Tell Mexican NDNs and NDNs all over Latin America. Really, I'm as Catholic as Woody Allen is Jewish. I was sent to Catholic school, but I don't practice.
All Ashby does by that line of attack is show she's a religious bigot in addition to her racism.
And ironically, some of the good people at Indianz uncovered the fact that her friend Yngona Desmond (who was kicked out of NAFPS for being a racist) was sponsoring a fraud posing as a Sammi shaman.
She's also claiming rather bizarrely I "wanted a harem." It seems she can't decide what racist insult to settle on by using an Arab bashing stereotype like that, and against an Apache/Mexican she claims is "white nationalist."
Again, Ashby's attacks backfired, since someone at Indianz uncovered that she lives in a polygamy relationship with two other women. Her bizarre defense is that it's supposedly celibate. That's irrelevant, (not to mention strangely prudish and anti sex) and it's still a polygamy relationship.
Yes, Ashby's campaigns have been a spectacular and downright laughable failure. I'd call her another Ken Starr, but at least Starr found himself a semen stained dress for his six or seven years of effort. Ashby's been at it longer, over ten years, and if anything she's helped us grow stronger and driven people to check us out. Liking what they see, they stick around and pass along what we say to others.
In the time since Ashby first went after us, NAFPS has gone from about 200 members to close to 1000 now.
We went from a little noticed yahoo group to a resource used by Native activists, universities, museums, Nuage survivors, and yes, pagan groups aching to know the truth and fed up with racist Nuage nonsense of the type Ashby peddles.
Ashby certainly hasn’t hurt me one bit. I’ve gone from a beginner at grad school to a Fulbright Scholar with my first published book on an academic press, as well as all the many thanks I constantly get for my work at NAFPS.
Thanks, Ms. Ashby. The more you attack us, the stronger we've gotten, and the more support we've gotten.
And if anyone cares to, they can repost this or link to it. Just please repost it in its entirety.
How do we know Betsy Ashby?
A while back someone reached out to us to join a group with Laura Knight-Jadcyzk, some researchers on pathology and Sandra Brown, MA. Jadcyzk even gave us a number of articles we published right here on EOPC to validate and educate victims. We were very clear that we are a group of victims of cyberpaths and not doctors or researchers. Brown supported us many times, also sharing information. We published ads for her books, services, and so on, gratis.
Knight-Jadcyzk and her group also started a site called ENPSYCHOPEDIA.org to provide out information about pathologicals, proper definitions of terms involving pathology and so on. This group, by the way, gives no contact information. They act as a sort of 'Star Chamber' for pathology.
Nothing seemed amiss until a number of weeks ago when a new 'Fighter' noticed we had not heard from Jadcyzk in a while. We wrote to ask her why? We received no response and she has since never responded. Last week we were notified that Stone was again accusing an old member of being one of us but this time, he stated his information came directly from Sandra Brown, MA. This was confusing, so we wrote Brown - she replied she hadn't given him a thing and didn't know who Stone was. It didn't ring true with us considering her associations with us over the years.
Then we were alerted that someone named Guardian on the Cassiopaea forum (run by Knight-Jadcyzk) where we occassionally posted, had screen shots of Sandra Brown MA's computer and Laura Knight-Jadcyzk's computer with IP address and "proof" of who we were. The information was incorrect, but the screenshots being touted as truth bothered us because of our association with Brown & Knight-Jadcyzk.
Why was this being done to us? Because Brown and this old member had a disagreement, so Brown - in what could only be a petty move - killed 2 birds with one Stone (pun intended) by giving out her name to Betsy and probably telling her to go at it. Knight-Jadcyzk has continued to give Guardian free reign and a platform on her forums to spread her smear as well. Mary McGrannahan also, we have been told, has multiple profiles on FB and is copying Gary Stone on everything EOPC writes to her in an attempt to feed his delusions. In classic bully fashion, the attacks are against people personally - attempts to humiliate our members and somehow silence us.
Also to deflect the attention away from Sandra Brown, MA who seems to have no license to even counsel people. (having a degree and a license are two separate things) No psychotherapy license. Nothing. Anyone can call the state of North Carolina's licensing board and ask. Feel free to do so. AND FEEL FREE TO REPORT BROWN FOR MISREPRESENTATION & FRAUD.
(Ashby is now making up, changing and rewriting reasons, excuses and justification as she goes along & Stone as well as her minions at Cassiopaea are swallowing it whole - saying someone 'planted' Brown's endorsements on our site. Sure someone did - Sandra Brown, MA herself!)
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dateThu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM
subjectRe: [pathocracy] Re: Personality Disorders of Dangerous Women
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Fighter, would you guys be willing to drop a line to my publisher at Hunter House with this link saying that you came across the title which is obviously being used because it's like our Dangerous Man book. Even what he 'tries' to discuss is a lazy spin on the Dangerous Man book and like Anne said, w/poor definitions.
I have had my problems with my publisher so I don't want to send it to him and start a dialogue. He is much more likely to not have a dialogue with someone who is simply reporting, 'Heads up, someone is playing off of one of your titles.' Please don't mention any affiliation with me or The Institute because then he'll be contacting me and I can't stand him!! LOL~ Anyway, if you want to send it, it's kiran (at) hunterhouse (dot) com. THANKS
PS Piss me off to no end to see him trying to make a play off the book. I am headed to FL with my sister so can't deal with this now. But....ERRRR.....
Also everyone, thank you for your well wishes and kindness as I head down to see her.
Sandra L. Brown, M.A.,
The Institute for Relational Harm Reduction& Public Pathology Education
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Subject: [pathocracy] Re: Personality Disorders of Dangerous Women
Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:28 PM
There is a LOT of muddying the waters going on in this video. Yes, we well know there are female psychopaths/sociopaths/NPD/cyberpaths.
I happen to have been involved with one. However, many of the statements this man makes could be easily blurred. He's not giving definite definitions so much as general characteristics which normal women can exhibit as well if put under stress by a pathological person.
Wounded women- wounded people - will often behave as he is describing five and half or six minutes into this. He's really not being clear about the difference between pathology and expressing emotional damage. I think it's a confusing video because he's so fast and loose with definitions.
However, with that said, a lot of what he says is true about being involved with a pathological. He just seems to throw in a lot of other issues as well, like eating disorders. All in all, it seems really muddy to me, if not dangerously vague. FIGHTER - what's your take on it?
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anart - we are just a bunch of victim/ survivors... it does seem a bit confusing and inspecific... A couple of us were just stunned and had a 'huh?' reaction
we posted it to get the PROFESSIONALS take on it... LOL
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Sandra - we dropped him an email. No problem.
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xoxo love you guys!
Sandra L. Brown, M.A.,
The Institute for Relational Harm Reduction& Public Pathology Education
we have other emails showing Sandra's involvement with us as well as two of her glowing endorsements of us STILL ON OUR BLOG:
Investigation turned up Ashby - who was on the Cassiopaea forum reeming us for being 'anonymous.' (Though it appears she has a number of anonymous online identities from what we have read and been told.)
Just a bit more and we learned Ashby was not only Sandra Brown, MA's advocate, legal adviser & volunteer assistant. She was a long-time associate of Knight-Jadcyzk. The snake pit was complete: Ashby, Brown and Knight-Jadcyzk. We were standing in one, working with one and didn't even know it. We apologize to our members old and new for that.
Of course, Ashby starting pointing fingers, thinking she was naming names and decided to help someone SHE DECIDED we had treated unfairly: Gary Stone - by sharing all her "intelligence gathering" with Stone. Just recently she's gone after ANOTHER of our cyberpath victims now say SHE is one of us. Doesn't matter how many times we or anyone else tells her she & Laura the loon is W R O N G... they just ramp it up on innocent people. (The fact that both the people they are naming are single mothers of young children means NOTHING to them - just more reason to abuse for these hate-mongers.)
And there you have it. No wonder Brown and Knight-Jadcyzk cut us off after long associations with us. A malignant tornado named Betsy Ashby was turned loose on us by Brown and enabled by Knight-Jadcyzk.
Now we have seen the real maliciousness of cult leader Knight-Jadcyzk, who is giving a platform to Ashby's insane rants and accusations - and egging her on.
Brown, it has been discovered, has no license to counsel, never ever was a 'psychotherapist' (as she advertises herself) and is in trouble with the Attorney General of North Carolina for not filing business documents... we are not sure she even has liability insurance - which would leave her clients being "treated" by someone with no license and them no recourse.
It seems they are all afraid of what more will be found out and are trying to divert attention by attacking, ripping apart & maligning old members of ours; in a prime example of PATHOLOGICAL MOBBING BEHAVIOR!!
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UPDATE: our many many thanks to the people who have written us with words of support and especially those who have bravely come from Cassiopaea.org to validate, support and offer information. We will keep doing the right thing.
(NOTE: We have been told Mrs. Mcgranhan removed her blogs about Sandra Brown MA and Melissa Kester - probably so her years of online harassment of people would not be confirmed. Mcgranhan's writings however, have been preserved here on EOPC - CLICK HERE. And we were sent just two of her hate blogs against her husband and also another woman HERE and HERE. EOPC has heard from a handful of people who say Mcgranhan is a scam artist, drug addict and extorts money from people online. We have no proof either way, however but we have gotten some very mean-spirited and confusing emails from Mcgranhan and were forced to block her. )
Shame on you Sandra Brown MA!
EOPC and many victims from around the world used to trust and respect your words, well no more.
You advocate yourself as being part of ..."The Institute for Relational Harm Reduction & Public Pathology Education" yet your recent actions in regards to these matters scream anything but.
We fully support EOPC and everything that it works so hard to achieve. The 'Fighter' Team give of their own free time to help those victims that otherwise would never be heard. They educate them to heal and stand up for their rights. It works.
If we do not stand united together to make ALL predators be held accountable for their actions, then you become nothing more than an enabler.
You Sandra Brown MA have just proven that you can not be trusted and are indeed an enabler. Confidential information entrusted to you was handed over by you, to a known predator, without consultation or consent from the person who sent it to you. Disgusting.
Guardian is a bully, she intimidated and harrassed me, her actions put me in a state of shock for several weeks back in 2008. I have never been a victim of cyberbullying before it really is a frightening and horrible experience. I get the impression she does this a lot as part of her role in being a cassiopaea bull dog I'm not surprised to see her mentioned here.
Cassiopaea is as bad as Scientology. They bully, intimidate and character assassinate anyone who gets in their way. Guardian is one of the worst of this goon squad. She feeds on humiliating people.
I know Betsy Ashby (guardian)as I am also a member of cassiopaea, this case has really woken a few of us up to her and cassiopaea's pathology and cyber bullying. I hadn't noticed it before but I'm really shocked by what she is saying on the forum, and how low she is prepared to sink, she has no integrity at all.
They say they are against this sort of thing but now I'm beginning to think they are one of the worst cyber bullies on the web.
Anyone familiar with narcissism and psychopathology quickly recognized Guardian's inner landscape on the cassiopaea.org forum.
Unfortunately Laura Knight-Jadczyk's criteria for her followers are not psychologically healthy individuals that exhibit a conscience.
Laura's criteria is loyal sycophants, feeding her own delusions of grandeur. Since she has been in self-preservation mode for almost a decade now, fearing exposure, the more ruthless and cunning her defenders and attack dogs are, the better. Not unlike Nancy Lieder and the people she surrounded herself with.
I guess it's a matter of "birds of a feather, flock together".
Laura's doomsday cult is a textbook case of a doomsday cult:
• The guru is always right
• You are always wrong
• No exit
• No graduates
• Suppression of dissent
• Enforced conformity in thinking
• Suspension of disbelief
• Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions
• Personal attacks on critics
• Insistence that the cult is THE ONLY WAY
• The cult and its members are special
• Induction of guilt, and the use of guilt to manipulate cult members
• Unquestionable dogma, sacred science and infallible ideology.
• Indoctrination of members
• Appeals to "holy" or "wise" authorities
• Instant community.
• Instant intimacy.
• Surrender to the cult.
• Giggly wonderfulness and starry-eyed faith
• Personal testimonies of earlier converts
• The cult is self-absorbed
• Dual purposes, hidden agendas and ulterior motives
• Aggressive recruiting.
• Deceptive recruiting.
• No humor
• You can't tell the truth
• Cloning: You become a clone of the cult leader or other elder cult members
• You must change your beliefs to conform to the group's beliefs
• The end justifies the means
• Dishonesty, deceit, denial, falsification and rewriting history
• Different levels of truth
• Newcomers can't think right
• The cult implants phobias
• The cult is money-grabbing
• Confession Sessions
• A system of punishments and rewards
• An impossible superhuman model of perfection
• Disturbed guru, mentally ill leader
• Disturbed members, mentally ill followers.
• Create a sense of powerlessness, covert fear, guilt and dependency
• Dispensed existence
• Ideology over experience, observation and logic
• Keep them unaware that there is an agenda to change them
• Thought-stopping language
• Thought-terminating clichés and slogans
• Mystical manipulation
• The guru or the group demands ultra-loyalty and total commitment
• Demands for total faith and total trust
Laura has been exposed online so often by cult survivors and people she and her cult have malligned, that she decided to put a website up about how "harmless" her cult is, in order to recruit new members and keep the income flowing.
A lot of these testimonials were written by her acolytes and insiders. Some were written by unfortunate people not realising they're in a destructive cult yet.
Guardian has met her match with Laura. Prepare for the battle of the psychopaths sooner or later.
Laura recently started her own brand of Scientology: Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind.
An old website by a cult survivor:
I have been a victim of guardian aka Betsy Ashby I will quite happily come forward and make a statement against her and cassiopaea. All the evidence is there on the cassiopaean forum. They threatened me with further exposure to stop me going to the police. But I'm not scared anymore as so many people are coming forward now.
Cassiopaea tells its members they are saving the world - and it behaves like this - god help us
I am in a difficult position, My name has been leaked all over the damn web by Sandra Brown and Betsy Ashby -- and Laura Knight Jadcyzk is advocating this childish, narcissistic behaviour and enabling both women to stalk and harass.
I now have the choice of either outing them via my blog and making things worse for myself, or taking a stand despite that and show that they cannot back me into a corner nor can they use EOPC as their reason for attacking me.
I will continue to support EOPC whatever they say or do.
The fact I have children is putting me off exposing them on my blog so I am taking the time to decide what to do, in the end, I will most likely fight back as I don't like being bullied and exposed as something I am not.
This is why I am speaking out and not hiding away. As for Sandra Brown MA, she is a very very clever business woman who likely spun and hid most of her lies and actions in order to make money off of victims. I will be reporting her to the authorities also.
Keep up the good work EOPC! - everytime I go to your blog and read up, all I see is logic & Fairness, whereas on the Cassiopia forums all I witness is childish, pathetic behaviour , it's like watching a bunch of school girls gossiping.
I think if we all stick together, we can and will expose these heartless clowns for who they are.