I'm "Ruined for Life"

A Seattle, WA college student says a stalker got into her home and took nude photos of her using her computer's web camera.

It all started when the victim started talking with her alleged cyberstalker in a chat room on the internet.

She says that initial contact turned into cyberstalking.

"And it hurts to know that your privacy is taken away, especially for a young girl," she said. "To have sleepless nights and to be scared that there's a stalker out there."

The young woman told police the person hacked into her webcam which is in her bedroom. Then, he got pictures of her naked.

"And then from that I'm assuming they just saw me on webcam and they decoded it to see me while I was changing."

She says the cyberstalker sent those pictures to her boyfriend and only then did she find out she was being watched.

Fellow students are stunned.

"That's just scary that people can hack in from other computers into someone else's computer," said one woman.

Web cameras look so innocent you almost forget they're there. But with technology the way it is, and hackers the way they are, when you least expect it someone may be watching.

We've seen these cameras used as spycams before. A Bothell family suspected someone was in their house while they were away. They activated their webcam from across the country and caught a burglar in the act.

Then, there are wireless cameras designed for your own private use. But as KOMO 4 News showed you they transmit pictures for anyone to see if they have the right spying technology.

Computer safety expert Ryan O'Hagan says he's seen this invasion of privacy before. "It's like they're sitting right here."

But, simple safeguards can keep crooks out of your web cam.

"I think just basically having a firewall, anti-virus, a strong password on your machine can keep these thieves out and can keep them from getting into your computer, and watching you at home," said O'Hagan.

KOMO 4 News asked the victim in this case if she will ever use a webcam again. "Never, it has ruined me for life," she said.

She hopes by speaking out others will be protected against cyberstalkers.

ORIGINAL

Dan Jacoby used webcam shots taken of his victim, photoshopped them and set up a website (no removed) to extort her into silence as well as to give "selective" information to the FBI!

Nathan E. B. Thomas, Jr. -- The Black Rider

Thomas had an unreal imagination. It's been reported to us he fancied himself as a James Bond, 'International Man of Mystery' type character. Of course, his lies about being CIA and Special Ops just supported his pulp fiction fantasy of who he really was.

We saved the best, the most hysterical and probably the sickest stuff until last. Thomas sent Victim #2 these stories of himself styled as "THE BLACK RIDER." He presented them as dramatizations of things he had really done or was doing! (As ridiculous as his claims of 'being alone in a cabin in the mountains, then climbing down and asking a farmer for fresh eggs'! The closest this man ever got to roughing it was the nearest hotel or some naive woman's home!)

Here are some of his BLACK RIDER stories; reading like a John LeCarre novel. The stuff he believes he did... in his psychopathic mind. He would also send pictures of military operations, soldiers in battle training exercises, and so on cut & pasted from online military e-zines and journals to which his victims had no access, presenting them as 'his men' or 'him' (in the latter the face was well covered or obscured).

Remember he is presenting these as fact when they are total works of fiction!

Our comments in DARK BLUE.

There was always a fire burning some where and there was always a need to have it put out. The Black Rider sat an thought about the past weekend and the thoughts of when he would have peace. There seemed to always be something going on as the normal world went about it business of the day never realizing how close they had come to not seeing their families or loved ones again. He was sure that if the normal people ever saw what he had to deal with that they would be scared and of course there would be those then that would take away the very liberties he was trying to protect, but people would be so afraid of the animals that they would give up their freedom, if it meant they were safe. Once they had given up their freedom those who were sworn to protect them over time would become their controlling captors rather than their protectors. (Nathan Thomas = controlling captor)

Last weekend was such a time. The Black Rider had been gathering information on this team of people that were in the process of bringing deadly biological agents into a northern European area. So there was all kinds of surveillance that was done to weed out these folks and it was very hard to get to them as they had a place that would require an army and even then there would be doubts of capturing all of the important people. So, as long as the items had not moved across the border the Black Rider said there was time. Everyone was telling him to strike earlier and he always fought large elements of people as he was not going to do what they wanted. The Black Rider normally picked on weekends as those people with families liked to have them and they acted like normal people. (as if he'd know what NORMAL was!) So, this was their weakest moment. The problem was how to take out the bad from their families and ensure there families were not harmed in the process? ("how can I get freebies from a woman who already has a family and get away with it?")

The Second was given the task of ensuring there were people to protect the family members and whenever possible to make sure that they would not see anything bad happen to their loved one. So, it was determined that sleeping gas would be used and all members put to sleep first. In the case where the man and woman were in a room together they would both be give the gas and the bad guy taken away while his wife slept. Children were also handled with a gas. Then there was the neighborhood as it could not know that they had ever been there. (and he will run from being caught or found out as a predator and swear he had no idea or it never happened, to those around him.)

So, it was time to move and the Black Rider had confirmation that all were in place and it was time to move. Team #2 hit first and they hit a house which was 200 Kilometers away where there was an arms dealer who had the agent in question. So, the problem was locating the agent and that meant the arms dealer had to be taken alive and questioned. (Thomas, has anyone ever taken you alive and questioned you or do you find a reason to run?)

Team #2 went in at 0100 hours and too the husband right out from under his families noses as they were all given knockout gas which caused them all to sleep and not wake up until much later. The arms dealer was then taken by car and later by helicopter to an isolated area where the information would be extracted from him in very short order as soon as he awakened. (Arms dealer? Thomas wouldn't have a clue what to do with a real arms dealer)

Team #1 had another individual who was the buyer and he had the money and the connections. He was to be captured as well and all of his accounts cleaned out. He would have no money to make the buy and the Black Rider's leaders would use this money to finance their fight against such evil. (or maybe lining his own pockets to sleep with more women around the world)

Team #3 had another action and they were to take out with extreme prejudice the biological engineer that was working for a very bad cell of terrorist. All that were in his building were considered bad and so it was a free zone and all within were hostile in nature. (Psychopaths are hostile in nature. Thomas trying to tell us something?)

The Black Rider was waiting on the information as to where the chemicals were and his job was then to make sure they were all destroyed. The information came in from Team #2 where the items were located. The Black Rider then took his three personnel and they went to the area where the biological agents were held and started to destroy the products. In doing so all three were exposed to a very toxic agent which it was discovered ate through the fabric and went on to the skin. (The only toxic agent here is Thomas)

This new wrinkle made there a change to plans an there was a bio hazard expert that was flown to the location. The Black Rider was exposed on his left hand as very small area and between his stomach and penis where a barrel was being handled an some of its content got on the Black Rider's protective clothing. (oh boy - he found a reason to use the word PENIS!)

The Bio expert was very efficient and neutralized the affects of the agent, but there would be minor irritation for months. The best was that there was no contamination possible to the local population. (ooooo he's so brave... behind a keyboard.)

Had the public known what was going on and how close it had came to having wide spread terror the cost would have been horrific. (had the women he used known the truth he'd have been in jail by now) So the Black Rider once again thanked the cosmos for all of their good fortune. His mind went back to his love. A woman that would tell him that he did not know what stress was and that having a house full of kids was stress. There were times when he thought walk in my shoes at this time and let me know which has more stress when dealing with issues that at most hurt feelings, or dealing with issues where when you make a call it affects the lives of those around you and of those that never know that their lives rest in your hands. So he felt s smile as he thought of his gentle soul of a wife whose world was in peace and she did not see the same demons. (women don't see him for the sick pervert he is) But she held her torch of love burning for her man and this kept him going to know there was good in this world. (wonder how many women he sent this junk to? do you see the implied 'keep believing my lies' stuff here?)
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There were many insects biting the members of the team as they lay in wait watching the terrorist encampment. The mission was only to verify that all within the camp were hostile. (Thomas is emotionally toxic & hostile to decent women)

No one was to be engaged and the regular military would come in an take care of the situation. The Black Rider had advised the local commander that the best way to handle these people were by surprise with the maximum of violence and the minimum exposure to the troops. The local commander did not listen and wanted to do things his way! (When you read the email Thomas sent to Victim #2 at the bottom you will see he wants everything HIS WAY!)

So the Black Rider got his personnel together and laid it all out on the line for them and that their time was on them, as this mission was over by the legal sense; however, there were troops that were going to die needlessly and he said he was going to stay and ensure that the terrorist would not get a drop on the troops while he had anything to do about it. As he knew would happen everyone of his men said they were staying as this was the kind of men he had. They were all loyal and followed him without a word and without doubt. (imbedded seduction here: means he wants all his women to be loyal and believe him without a doubt! The rest of the story helps scare them that they either might lose him or are sleeping with a man who can slit their throats and get away it.)

The sun was beating down on them and they had been in location for hours under cover of dirt laid on top of the hole in the side of the hill. One of the members had the company of a lizard and a scorpion as it got hotter they were looking for a cooler spot and his hole was selected. All personnel as set up so there was a perimeter and there were two men to a hole where they took turns sleeping and watching their sectors. The scorpion was about to find out that it had came into a hole where there was danger. The Black Rider later found out that the scorpion got close to the mouth of his one man and it was bitten, but was not killed before its barb stuck its attacker in the cheek. The lizard was allowed to live as it would take care of the other insects that were in the hole, but the scorpion was not something they wanted to deal with at that time. (scorpion? maybe a common mosquito in someone's backyard! LOL)

Moments later there was the rumble of vehicles and as everyone had communications with other team members it was relayed that there was an armed convoy coming fast upon the enemy site. The Black Rider knew if his men and him heard them, that the terrorist would as well. Sure enough they came running out armed to the teeth. They were going to head for the very hill where they knew the vehicles were going to have to come and by the way, unknown to them it was all ready figured out by the Black Rider that they would go there, so he left a surprise for them. He new that this commander was going to come over ground and as he knew the direction he would have to take, so did the terrorist and the Black Rider knew where they would go to handle a ground attack. (When Thomas gets confronted he gets on the first plane out of the country.)

So as the terrorist got to the other hill and started setting up their mortars and heavy anti tank weapons the Black Rider and his men were waiting before springing there trap. The terrorist had set up and were now waiting for the convoy to come within killing range. This never came to pass as all of a sudden their position became and inferno. The minds were set to go off electronically and they started going off with deadly accuracy as the terrorist did not know what was hitting them. They were dying left and right as they watched their ranks get blown apart and they never new where it was all coming from. There were three sniper weapons trained on their location to mop up any loose ends and there were four which left the world never knowing from where their death came from. (Death would be convenient for Thomas to say happened to him - because then he'd be free from one or two women to add more to his stable)

Then as all of this was happening the people at the terrorist stronghold came out as they thought it was their people who were causing the death of the so called infidels and to their shock it was their own people dying and death came knocking on their doorsteps as well. The Black Rider ensured that as soon as they were aware of what was going on their whole operation had to be brought to the ground. He called in to his people and they brought a unmanned piloted vehicle in with a load of killer missiles and they were guided in by laser from the Black Rider's location. The stronghold was leveled to the ground as two missiles totally destroyed the little stronghold and reduced it to a smoldering heap of rubbish. The stench of burning flesh as all ready heavy in the air. (The stench of Thomas' lies is a lot worse!)

The local commander's troops came charging in and there was nothing left for them to do, except to bury the dead. The Black Rider and his men waited on their helicopter evacuation and left the scene where there was obvious confusion as to what had just happened. Their lives had been saved and they would never know how close it was that they came to not ever seeing their loved ones again. (LOVE? This guy doesn't know what that is... the only thing he loves is himself and his genitals.)
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The Black Rider came back after his men and he was sick from all of the traveling and going through time zones and different weather. (so many women, so little time!) He was suffering from a cold and a bad ear infection which had set in and it was a combination of action he had been through before, the different pressure on his ear drums, and the bad cold he was suffering. In spite of all of that he still had work to do and his men to take care of. (more emails to write, dating sites or penpal sites to patrol for fresh prey...)

His men had been called back earlier because of all of the bad things that were happening in the area where they were engaged trying to keep the outside forces at a distance while giving the local emerging government a chance to get on its own feet and govern itself the way its people wanted to be governed. He did not believe it would happen the way a lot of western countries thought because history in this area showed that there would be fighting and disputes until the end of time and a few years was not going to change something that had been going on for centuries. But all of that being said, it would not be because he did not give it his all, as he would to try and ensure that there would be a chance if it were within his power. If nothing else he was saving lives of the weak here and there and that was a good feeling. (he was devouring the weak with lies, lures, seduction and baloney to get sex, food and free housing!)

The Black Rider had been picked up in another country and placed on a military transport and was at once to work talking with his men on the ground and getting appraised of the situation and what would be required. There were many things to be considered and worried about, but some way he would pull it together. I bad news had reached him at a bad time where he had to cut short his personal life and there were many things he had planned on doing that had to either change, or be placed on hold to a later date. The Black Rider was trying to change his life and it was being made very difficult, but he was going to have things his way as he hated to fail like on the current mission he was putting together even as he flew toward the center of the world's problem, even though many did not realize fully what was happening. (Thomas' targets didn't realize what he was doing to them either.)

There were many things to be coordinated before he got there and he was not in the mood for excuses or long stories. Often, he was having to tell people to get to the point as he hated long stories as normally they turned into nothing but excuses. His men had learned his mood became dark when there were long stories and so they were always very brief and to the point. When the Black Rider started talking it was all one way communication as to what was required and by when. Anyone that stood in the way were to be put on the lne with him right away. During the flight, the black Rider was called four times to solve issues. (four women getting suspicious maybe?)

One was a local commander that did not want to give the resources that were requested and after arguing with the Black Rider, he was relieved by the Theater Commander after the Black Rider explained the situation and was placed under the control of the Black Rider as this was one of the requests of the Black Rider. (how many times can he use 'Black Rider' in a sentence? Like the 'I, Me, My' of a narcissistic type)

The Black Rider finally landed and was at once seen by the medical staff on the ground and given treatment to where he could work without having to bother about the pains of a cold for a few hours at a time. He took advantage of this and further organized for the upcoming operation. There were many things that needed to happen and there were satellites as well as agents on the ground of the enemy's camp that were providing information back to the Black Rider as he was organizing his band of warriors and making plans for a very bold raid, that would deal a very deep blow to the enemy camp held up in another country. (Woman in country #1 found out so now the Black Rider has to run to country #2 to see another victim... woman - and say he's on a mission. All the while setting up a liaison with woman #3 in yet another country!)

Five days passed and finally, the time that was waited for had arrived. The Black Rider was waiting on the enemy to make a move, which would place the enemy in a bad situation and give maximum advantage of surprise to the Black Rider and his men. The plan was simple, yet bold, and it called for people to cooperate and to be counted on to do their part in order for the mission to be a success. It called for a strike across the border into another country and it called for the complete destruction of the enemy base and all personnel in it. Because there could be political problems, if caught, there would be no chance of rescue and there would be denial that his country was even involved with the action. The Black Rider was not worried about the being caught portion, as it just did not seem like an option to even consider. (Psychopaths never worry about being caught but they don't like it when they are.)

During the time that his team had been deployed they had become feared and the enemy had the largest ransom in history for any one group dead or alive. They were known as the Shadows by his enemies and it was a mystique that was worked on for a reason. It came about from a TV show where this futuristic science fiction space movie depicted this force known as the shadows which would show up out of nowhere and destroy all in its path. They were feared and they were evil. The Black Rider was evil to the enemy. Whenever they had been someplace there was always a card left to with a figure coming out of the darkness and it was known as Death or the Grim Reaper. It was not a knew theme, but it had the desired affect. (The Black Rider is EVIL period. He IS the enemy, ladies.)

No one had ever known one of these things to ever be killed, or captured. There were a couple that had been spared for whatever reason, that were able to tell what they saw. There were a couple of papers that had been circulated about this force and it was one trying to explain to the enemy that these were normal beings and that they could be killed and that to-date they were just lucky. Well, after this attack that was being planned the Black Rider knew that there would be even more of a mystery behind them because he had some surprises for them to shock and awe and there would be thoughts of them as ghosts from hell coming to claim the bad and the wicked. (They will be coming for you soon enough, Mr. Thomas)

The Second came to the Black Rider and informed him that all was in order and they were ready for inspection. The Black Rider knew that there was not need to check as it would have been done as though he was there himself. This was the true test of leadership when the men acted and got things done to the same standards as though he was there right on the spot. The Black Rider went out and checked anyway as it was always a good thing to put more than one set of eyes on things when peoples' lives lay in the balance. (The only LIFE he recognizes and cares about is HIS OWN - everyone else's is there for him to play with, use, abuse, exploit and dump when he gets bored or caught.)

He went to the open quarters where the men had all of their gear laid out for inspection and it was all the same. They were trained to set up each area the same so when a leader looked at one set up all were the same and it was easier to tell when there was something missing or wrong. All items were correct and in working order. every man had packet his own parachute and his personal weapon was set out and all ammunition that would be needed for this mission was out. There was nothing but the items needed to wage war and anything else was a luxury. So there was nothing to keep them dry nor warm other than the thermo suits they would be jumping in to keep their body temps warm during the drop. This was a HALO jump would be used to airdrop at high altitude without posing a threat to the jumpers. They would jump from the aircraft and deploy their parachutes at a high altitude, 10–15 seconds later after the jump (typically at 27,000 feet or so). The jumpers will use a compass to guide themselves while gliding for 30 or more miles. The jumpers will use way points and terrain features to navigate to their desired landing zone, and along the way, they must correct their course for changes in wind speed and direction; making for a tricky navigation problem. All men would follow the Second and the Black Rider would be the last to exit the aircraft The Second being the first out the door would be in the lowest position and would set the travel course and act as a guide for his other team members. (Thomas has NEVER jumped out of a plane or helicopter.)

All men were in good spirits and the Black Rider could see the gleam in their eyes as they were all ready at the location and it was what they had been trained for. Their whole purpose in life for the next few hours or days would be to stop the enemy at all costs and to ensure that the enemy was never able to wage war from the location to which they were going ever again. There would be no pity nor quarter given. All was well in the inspection went well to include the other team members that had been taken under the operational control of the Black Rider. (CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL! Typical predator always needs to be in control!)

Next they went out to the transport that would be flying them to their destination. It was also a very flat black in color. There were no markings and it could have come from anywhere. This was a rare look by the pilots at the people they would be flying. The Black Rider noticed that they were very nervous as this was there first time meeting him; however, he knew each of them very well, as well as records could get one. He hand picked who would be flying his team and he knew that they were honored as well as scared to death as there were many stories that had been told about his men and him. He knew that they were nervous and they could not see his eyes as he had on dark shades and his Second was talking to them and every time the flight commander tried to ask the Black Rider a question, his Second would answer them. The Second gave the tour of the plane and all items required to include the weapons array that would be used by the flight crew upon the target area. (His second? What is this the Charge of the Light Brigade? LOL)

After the inspection, the Black Rider finally addressed the flight commander. He wanted to know how many combat missions had he flown of this nature and the flight commander looked at the reflective sun glasses and asked must he talk to the glasses when answering or could he look into his eyes? The Black Rider was not in the mood for a fly boy smart ass, so he walked away without answering. (same way he walks away giving no answers to his victims) He handled it this way because pilots were known to have large egos and at times their egos were bigger than they were. (Thomas' ego is humongeous obviously!) This was know of jet pilots and he used to be one until it was determined that he needed eye glasses. Jet pilots by nature had attitudes was the Black Riders thinking and that was not all bad as he and his men had attitudes as well, but only when needed. His Second asked if he wanted the flight commander changed out and the Black Rider informed him that he wanted him as he read he was the best of all and he knew on this mission he would be needed. He knew that this flight commander was a hard one to control as well and to this end, he wanted to keep the upper hand and he wanted the flight commander to always wonder about him, but never find out a thing through personal contact. The Black rider looked at his Second and said tell him, that if he is asked the same question a second time by me that his whole world will change. The Second understood as he had been with the Black Rider longer than any of them, so he knew exactly what was meant by that. The pilot screw things up and he would never fly anything, but cargo until he retired. (Thomas thinks he so powerful but he's really a nothing and a nobody by retired Army who's flying an armchair in some poor woman's house.)

The Black Rider went back to his room and he chatted with his love over the line to another world. His heart was heavy as there were things he wanted to say and could not. (like - 'I am lying. You are the 3rd or 5th woman I have to call...') His love was safe and had no idea the things he was really dealing with. He also knew that tomorrow is never promised and so time was something he looked at through different eyes. There were many things that he saw differently, but there was one thing that he knew and that was that this woman held his love and he was fighting to ensure that he was able to get back to this love of his life. (He's already with the love of his life - HIMSELF)

Now all they could do was wait until the time was right and then they would leave and he hoped that this thing would go as he had envisioned it. He had placed each man from the other team with one of his men and they were under their control until they closed back in to this current location. His men were doing a good job of watching out for them and ensuring they were prepared for when he came to inspect. (Notice, THOMAS has the final word in his stories - just like cyberpaths love to have the final word - and give no closure.)

So, the Black Rider was sitting down and writing in his journal to his love that she would know what was going on. He had his fears and those were, what if he were never able to see her in this world again and how sad she would be. To make sure that his last words were kind and not hurtful, that she would not have regrets. Then he would think, maybe he should make her mad at him and even get her to hate him and then if there were something to happen she would not be as sad. But a lass he dropped these thoughts because it would be worse for her to think bad as he wanted there to be laughter in her heart when she thought of their lives together which had burned hot and bright for the time they had shared. She was his love and was as gentle as he was mean at times. The Black Rider wrote a little more an then he would send off what he had written, so far and then get some sleep, but then thought no, he would finish the journal when he returned and complete the action for this time period. (He has so many ludicrous and insane fantasies about himself running around in his head!)

It was just before 2200 hours and it was nice and dark and all men were well rested and ready for the task ahead. There would be about a two hour flight by the route they had to take and then they would jump in the darkness. The temp would be very cold and the Black Rider had to ensure that everyone was alert to the possibilities that were at hand during this mission. All men were well versed on their actions and the times and the rally points and all check points along the way as well. To prepare the personnel's night vision even before they got on the aircraft they were kept in a room with only red-lights on. in this room were last minute checks, as doing High Altitude High Opening jumps were nothing to play with and so all had to be checked to ensure that they had not broken the rules. The Black Rider wasnt worried about the men he had trained, but the jury was still out on the other members which were under his control now. There was an obvious difference in experience and the Black Rider's men had been out on more mission than any other unit since 1999. (IN HIS HEAD! And he's picked up more women in the last 8 years, since he got the internet!)

So, it was time for the safety measures and points to be covered: and finally the signal came to move out to the aircraft. On the inside of the aircraft there was also nothing but red lighting as well. The flight commander had ensured that everything was operationally ready on his aircraft and he was ready to do his part. The Black Rider asked him if he was clear on the pick-up point and if he had rocket assist to help on a short take off and he was given the affirmative. The Black Rider stood by as his men loaded up and was given the thumbs up by his Second that all was ready. The Black Rider then got on the aircraft and the doors and the ramp closed. (Taking guesses, readers, on how many women got these stories?)
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An email from Thomas to Victim #2 to "prop up" his claims of being a CIA OPERATIVE.

OK Cutie, (he called Victim #1 Cutie also - these guys love pet names in case they forget the real ones!)

I found an office and it will be fine. I now have people to place the items that I will be needing. Then after today I should be operational. So there has been a lot of hustle and everyone is amazed at how quickly things got done. I am not though as I know that these folks we call upon to move things are efficient and as long as they know what you want they will make it happen. So I was very proud of how after receiving a call at how quickly and efficiently they went about getting things together and delivered, plus set up. (probably means he got a new laptop and was able to get all the spyware he planted on all the women he was playing operational.)

My team member here is busy limping around and his eyes are glowing as he feels useful again and knows he will be helping the team in its day to day operation. I guess my eyes are glowing too, but I have no one to tell me that they are. (team member is probably a wife or girlfriend. LOL)

So, I am or will be operational today. I have arranged times with my man and we will do this in between our physical rehab times. (physical rehab? How about a diet?)

How has your day been going? Have you had a hard or easy day? How are the kids doing now? So, tell me Cutie. One child will be out of school this year. You said they will be moving with us more than likely. (DARN!) What will be their role? What will they be doing? How do you see it working with them? I mean they will not be in school as I hear it and they will be taking a break. (means: "do you expect me to help pay for this break? I have other women with children to deal with!) The same with the other child? (in a big hurry to get rid of the kids. Too many eyes & brains might see through his lies and bust him! In fact, one of Victim #2s children did discover that Thomas was already listed on this site as a predator and had been for a couple years!)

There are a couple ideas that I have and you tell me what you think. Car: there will be one car which they all have to share and to maintain. So when someone needs to be picked up or taken somewhere that is their job to look out for. (Because he's too lazy to do it) When it needs to be maintained or gas it is they who will get together and arrange for these things to be taken care of. Now having said this I know you say that they will not agree to work on things and that they will never agree to share. (he's dictating family policy to someone he apparently married BIGAMOUSLY. Where was his responsibilities to his first wife and children?)

Here are my answers and reasoning to this and please your comments as if you have another way then I am open:

1. Need to be more responsible for themselves when needing a ride and I want you and me to have our peace and when we give rides it will be for those not of driving age. (He wants her all to himself. Abusers do this to their victims - its called ISOLATION OF PERCEPTION)

2. There are no arguments with us about our car and no, even if it is in the drive and they will only be gone for a second, it is not for their use, they will have a car and they need to call each other for help when this no longer works for them then it is time to buy their own vehicle. (He wants to be able to act tyrannically towards children that aren't his.)

3. Teaches the kids to work things out and to be more responsible. Takes the burden off of us and places it back on them. (Heaven forbid anyone burden the Black Rider!)

4. There are too many kids that will not respect their parent's car and there is a tendency to wreck or otherwise misuse the cars. Note: the car and I will say that our main car (the one you and I drive) will not be shared even in things they may call as an emergency and we have to be hard. They have a car and they need to coordinate its use. IF not then I am hard and not bend unless we have a life threatening situation. We will have done our part by providing them with a car. Any car after that time will require them either buying their own or buying out the others for its use. (He wants use of the car whenever HE wants. Fast getaway. And he has NO intention of making any room for the needs of someone's children. Only HIS needs.)

Now I know you are saying wow this is not good, but when do you start preparing the kids to be on their own? The safety net of home will be gone one day and so they need to be able to get out there. (And be GONE so I can really mess with your mind!)

Next living at home:

1. What rules will there be? I have my thoughts, but I would like to hear them from you. (so he can criticize and tear you down)

2. What about cleaning? (because he isn't going to do it)

3. Helping with chores? (again, he isn't going to do it. He should be waited on, hand and foot.)

4. What is eaten/ Cooking/ friends coming over and eating and going through refrigerator. (because he wants food for HIMSELF and doesn't want to spend a dime to feed children)

5. Washing and ironing clothing? (He needs room service - free)

6. What about the rules of the house and what you say? (or what he says THROUGH her?)

7. At what age do you think they should have a place of their own? (when can he kick them out and not pay for them?)

8. Friends and visiting hours/ sleep overs? (again, a friend of one of the children might get suspicious of him and say something)

9. Telephone usage and giving out the number (because he probably has a trace on that too)

I am sure there are things that I may not have thought about and you have. And like I said this is all open to discussion. I know there are things that I take a more hard line to. Here I have done one thing that I did not do for my kids as I did not buy them a car at all, they had to save up and get their own and in the meantime it was if I did by chance take them and it was going to be late they had to show me that they had a way home, otherwise it would cost them for me to come get them and I normally had them doing things around the house to assist their mother. (Because he was spending his money on HIMSELF, his trips around the world on his Military discount, his internet access, access to dating sites and porn sites fees - why should he spend dime one on anyone but NATHAN? Thomas liked to appear wealthy to lure in women but he's really a cheap, selfish predator.)

Now, you know I am not short on words and I talk, so it may have come across hard, but I am here to listen as well Cutie because you have been raising the children and you are allowing me into their lives as well as yours. (funny - it looked like you were being dictatorial and now you are saying its because you care. That is classic abuser-speak.)

So, these are issues that are normally hard for families when there is one parent coming
into an all ready organized family unit. (You're not a parent. You're a predator)

Love, (gag)
T
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NOTE: It is suspected Nathan Thomas has another wife / girlfriend in Switzerland and possibly one in Prague. He has been visiting both of these areas regularly for a few years now.

Anyone with information should write to us and we will pass the information along to law enforcement.

Wanna-Be SEALS & "Special Ops" Pretenders

When 65-year-old David Silbergeld was found dead in a quiet Delaware park -- the result of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head -- few familiar with his case were surprised. Silbergeld had become much maligned in the small Pennsylvania town where he had been an adjunct community college professor and something of a local celebrity. Silbergeld was fired from his job and found himself the target of federal scrutiny when it was revealed that his long-time claims of having been a Navy SEAL were fraudulent. Moreover, Silbergeld was receiving full V.A. disability as a result of ongoing symptoms stemming from his special-forces service in Vietnam.

In fact, Silbergeld, like thousands of other special-forces pretenders, had never enrolled or graduated from any military special forces school or program. Although he claimed to have killed eleven enemy troops in hand-to-hand combat, no evidence of any combat experience existed. At some point along the path in Silbergeld's grandiose fabrication, those familiar with real SEAL training became suspicious and David Silbergeld had the grave misfortune of becoming the focus of a veteran’s organization devoted to uncovering SEAL fakes. In short order, Silbergeld's lies were made public, his heroic house of cards collapsed, and he took a walk with a revolver rather than face the consequences of his sham.

In recent years, several special-forces watchdog groups have sprung up to combat the problem of phony SEALS and fraudulent medal winners. Wall Street Journal writer, Amy Chozick, recently showcased the work of two of these groups, AuthentiSEAL.org, and VeriSEAL.org. Both groups are run by genuine SEALs, mostly veterans who are sick and tired of hearing wannabe's claim membership in their elite fraternity. Both groups boast remarkable success in identifying frauds and their websites often contain extensive lists, even photos, of those they have outed as imposters. At times, these watchdog groups are tenacious in exposing the fakes to their families, employers, and communities. At present, AuthentiSEAL.org claims to have uncovered about 20,000 SEAL fakers. The tone of these organizations suggests a broad assumption that all fakers mean to diminish the glory of genuine SEALS and that all should be tracked down and humiliated. There is no record of the personal aftermath for their victims nor any body count ticker for suicides. It is unlikely that David Silbergeld was the first. He certainly won’t be the last.

The purpose of this short treatise on faux Navy SEALS is not to stick up for special-forces fakers, nor am I interested in questioning the motives or methods of those who hunt them down. As a former naval officer, I object to any deceit related to one’s military record and I hold particular admiration for colleagues who have what it takes to make it in the SEALS.

My objective is merely to broaden our perspective on the why question. Why fake a special-forces background? Too often we might assume that all fraudulent SEALS are malignant sociopaths bent on milking the SEAL ruse for all it’s worth. If we see these men as deliberately exploitive, lacking any conscience or remorse, and fundamentally criminal in the sense of using the fraud for immediate and tangible gain (e.g., cash, benefits, employment) then they might indeed meet diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder (sociopathy) and severe consequences are easy to justify.

But experience suggests there are other "types" or clusters hidden in the population of would-be SEALS. In addition to old fashioned sociopathy, I propose that there are at least three other prominent motivations leading to SEAL (or Special Ops) faking.

First, there are the Narcissists. The Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by extreme egotism, arrogance, an unquenchable need for tribute and admiration, and an ongoing wish to be seen as special or unusual. True, the Narcissist is lying about his SEAL record just like the Antisocial, but his reasons are different. The Narcissist is using a SEAL persona to gratify profound needs for attention and may be uninterested in any tangible gain. Think of the Narcissistic fake SEAL as making a desperate attempt to compensate for his own sense of inadequacy; yes, Freud would say the man has SEAL envy. This type is so convinced of his own worthlessness that only perpetual adulation will ease the pain -- enter the SEAL.

A second, though considerably less common variety of faker is the traumatized veteran. Here we see a service member who actually did time in the service, and may have been involved in combat. He suffers from Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and may have related memory difficulties or in rare circumstances, psychotic symptoms. Very gradually, his service-related stories morph to incorporate affiliation with special-forces, unusual missions, or other false information. What part of this is deliberate and what part is more unconscious and linked to traumatic symptoms? In some cases, this is not at all clear.

A final profile among the ranks of faux SEALS is that of the utilitarian fibber. I suspect this may constitute one of the largest groups of special-forces frauds. The utilitarian fibber adopts a false SEAL persona only in isolated circumstances -- at least at first -- to get jobs, get friends, or to get laid. (this would apply to Barber, Thomas & Haberman)

One would not be surprised to see younger, less mature folks in this group. In this instance, the deceiver slings on the SEAL story like a cape, hoping to use the elite persona to leverage access to career advancement, social status, or perhaps just the sack. In contrast to the antisocial or the narcissist, expect this fake to fess up more readily when confronted; he has less to lose by coming clean.

Posing as a member of the special-forces is clearly illegal, not to mention upsetting for all of us who respect and admire the real thing. But remember that SEAL fakers are a varied bunch. While some are malignant; others are just pathetic. ...we should hold all of them accountable...

from: http://www.military.com

(This applies to our exposed predators: Phil Haberman, Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr., Joseph Cafasso and William Michael Barber. (see list on upper right column of this blog and click the name for more information) While some didn't say they were SEALS, they did lie about their military involvements. Thomas even implied he was CIA and fighting the Taliban. LOL

Barber used his special military training to con his way into a job as a criminal investigator. Cafasso got the media to buy him as a "Terrorism Expert!"

The only terrorism these guys know is the emotional and mental lies they visit upon their hapless victims! - EOPC)

SOME OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF A CYBERPATH

(extrapolated from the work of Lundy Bancroft)
The cyberpath is controlling; he insists on having the last word in arguments and decisionmaking,

he may make rules for the victim about her movements and personal contacts, such as forbidding her to contact or to see certain friends online or off

he is manipulative

he misleads people inside and outside of the family about his abusiveness

he twists arguments around to make other people feel at fault

he changes times & dates to cover himself

he turns into a sweet, sensitive person for extended periods of time when he feels that it is in his best interest to do so

his public image usually contrasts sharply with the online reality

he is entitled; he considers himself to have special rights and privileges not applicable to
other family members

he believes that his needs should be at the center of the target's agenda, and that everyone should focus on keeping him happy
he typically believes that it is his sole prerogative to determine when and how sexual relations will take place, and denies his partner the right to refuse (or to initiate) sex; he may even moralize to her when it is him that is the sex addict

he usually believes that work should be done for him, and that any contributions he makes to those efforts should earn him special appreciation and deference

he is highly and often subtly demanding

he is disrespectful; he considers his targets less competent, sensitive, and intelligent than he is, often treating her as though she were an inanimate object

he communicates his sense of superiority in various ways

after a break-up or negative event with the target, the cyberpath sometimes becomes quickly involved with a new partner whom he treats relatively well; sometimes he carries on multiple affairs slowly & painfully dropping one for the other

cyberpaths are not out of control, and therefore can be on "good" behavior for extended periods of time - even a few years - if they consider it in their best interest to do so

the new target may insist, based on her experience with him, that the man is wonderful to her, and that any problems reported from the previous relationship must have been fabricated, or must result from bad relationship dynamics for which the two cyberpath and a former target are mutually responsible. The cyberpath can thus use his new partner to create the impression that he is not a risk.
When caught:
Cyberpaths increasingly use a tactic I call "preemptive strike," where he accuses the target of doing all the things that he has done.

he will call his target a "predator too!"

he will say that she was harassing him and his friends/family, that she was extremely "controlling" (adopting the language of domestic violence experts), and that she was unfaithful and/or also at fault.

he will call her: a scorned woman, crazy, a stalker, obsessed with him, jealous, etc ....

BELIEVE NONE OF IT!!

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. : Emails/ Love Bombs from a Cyberpath

Some email examples from Thomas to Victim #2. Full of double-speak, the verbal run around, love-bombing and more naseauting talk.

Remember: EOPC considers Cyberpathy an expression of Narcissism and/or Psychopathy

Readers, did your cyberpath send you similar stuff?

Our comments in Dark Blue.

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From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Victim #2
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: What All I Feel

Hey Babes,

I have been sitting here thinking about you and us! It is frightening the love that I feel for you and it worries me to lose you as well. (afraid she's going to figure you out!) It is funny that I do not think about myself, but worry about you. I know you have taken care of yourself all of these years and you have made your way.

I am not one to take away the credit and give it where it is due as it takes a determined person to have done what you have done to date. (real meaning: She's vulnerable & I hope she stays that way!) I do not know how much time we will have in this world together, but whatever time it is, I know that there will be a life time of living packed into this time in space. It will be filled with happiness and we will have so many precious moments and it will carry us through all things. (wtf is he TALKING about? notice how twisted the verbiage is... like his brain... convoluted!)

I do not know what is planned in our lives as far as us together. I know that it is not normal that two pass at the same time, but people that are so in love as we are do not live long after their mate passes. (Darn right it's not normal - you are an already married predator with other women scattered all over the globe!)

I know you do not like to hear such talk as we will have long lives and they will be full, but one day and it will come where one of us will cross over before the other. (or unless Nathan does a disappearing act for another woman and then you get a "mysterious" email telling you he's "dead." We have seen cyberpaths pull that B.S. before, too)

I have been thinking and if then I would want it to be you before me as I know I would be shortly behind you. I would not want you to suffer as if you love me as much as I think you do, then you will feel so alone and be so hurt and haunted by my empty space. I think you would be so sad and this I could not take. (Because he thinks he's such a great guy - NOT!)

I know if I were left behind that I would be sad, but like a good soldier I would wait my time to join you. (and find many other women online to fill in that time, as he already has!)

I love you and it is not that I love you any less, but that I would rather it be me that suffers the loneliness and not you! Life does not always give us what we want. But, I had to say this as it was on my mind as I was thinking about you and me. (These guys have no clue what LOVE is - they just know it's a word that gets them what they want)

What do I see when I think of you? I see a woman that loves me for who I am inside and out and there is no doubt in my mind about her love for me. (You see someone who is buying the facade so far - but she had no idea at the time who you REALLY WERE!)

I see a woman that when I think about her she makes my soul sore and my spirit rise. (and fills me with glee because I am getting away with it! again)

I see a woman whose eyes light up when she sees me and I can tell her love through her looks and her touch. By the little things she does and says. I see a woman whose skin gets goose bumps when I touch her and when we make love I can feel the passion rise from her and I can tell that she is giving to me all of her body, mind, and soul, because it is there in her eyes, her touch, it can be felt even in the air. To hear you laugh is like music to me ears and to hear you talk soothes my very soul. (and all I really want out of women is free sex and for them to take care of me so I can have free vacations, variety and lots of sex!)

You are to me the complete woman. Each time we make love I do so with the knowledge that you are doing so out of love and that it is with the knowledge that each time could leave you pregnant with our child. (thank GOODNESS he didn't get her pregnant! And again - these guys don't make love - they masturbate using your body)

The narcissist very early on claims soul-mate-ship, ultimate love. Everything seems incredible and unbelievable - a dream come true. Free people might show each other affection but generally feel comfortable with themselves. They might enjoy the company of someone but will stay focused on their own interests. The victim is needy due to some abuse. The narcissist is not needy in terms of affection but admiration within the group where the narcissist keeps his or her spider-web. However, the narcissist gives this affection in order to draw the victim into this spider web. This is a difficult time for the narcissist because the narcissist cannot be intimate. Hence, intimacy is replaced by sex.

Dr. Ludger Hofmann-Engl

So the greatest honor any woman can give to a man is when she knows and wants to give her man a child. It does not have to happen, but just the knowledge that you would want to is honor enough. (and you should talk to his first wife Marion, about how he "takes care" of the children he gave her. Because he DOESN'T.)

With you I am complete and there is no other calling on life other than to be the best husband that any woman could ever ask for. That each day you are overwhelmed by the love you are receiving from me both mentally and physically. (spare us, Thomas. How many women did you send crap this to?)

Love,
T
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:22:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: To My Love
To: Victim #2

It means:
My dear of wife, I love you and I want to be with you forever! (what??)

Love, T

These characters are often described as "a tower of strength" by those who do not have to live with them. They make this observation when they see their apparent calmness and composure in family crisis.

The truth is, they are calm and composed, because even as the event and the tragedy unfold, there is no empathy or shouldering of the stress and the pain. They are not at all bothered by the suffering of those near. They feel nothing because again, they are never going to empathise/internalise.

In this calm unaffected condition, they remain aware of other issues that the caring family members have long since dropped sight of because of the crisis. They focus on these things vigorously because it takes them away from their own heart and the hearts of the family around them. They are able to attend to things mundane and to maintain a routine. They talk to doctors in an informed language. They put on a show for the nurses and visitors. It all looks caring and so well composed.

All the while the injured or seriously ill family member feels no emotional or spiritual support what so ever. Then when there is no one looking, the Narcissist will disappear or fall off their game, perhaps do something extremely dangerous and careless. In the quiet moment when there is a need to touch a heart and tower of Strength but there is no audience, things get weird. The admiring public never see this side.

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: 9/27/2004 4:19:10 PM

Thank you so much for the photos. You have a very nice family.

Wen I saw your family photo at first glance you cannot tell where the mother is, one really has to look. Now, I know you say here we go he has started talking crap, but I mean it, I had to look a second time and then I saw the mature adult face there. (oh puhleeeze!)

Everyone is cute, but I can see where they got it from. There is something about your look as though I have known it for years. But anyway, I hope that we are able to keep in touch with one another. (same line he gives EVERY OTHER WOMAN!)

Me, I was working this weekend and then I had off and went into the mountains. I must admit that I did not do any training and was rather lazy, but the air was so good. I stayed in a cabin for one night where I had a real lazy time of it. No, I was not roughing it as there was a working toilet and a gas stove to heat water and cook on. Nice fire place. So I took a book with me and a days worth of food and went there and shut out all humanity. (where were you REALLY? Another woman? With the lastest best-selling spy novel to get some more ideas for your fake personna?)

OK, not quite as my laptop is a wireless and so I can communicate over my cell phone as well. (because he wasn't in a cabin. Probably at some other woman's house catching up on all his online dating profiles)

So, much for shutting out humanity you say? Well, I have to be reached in case there is something that I have to react to. (REACT to? WOW! Talk about a Freudian slip here!)

So, I took a nice walk and was caught in the rain. I got back to the cabin and first started a fire in the fireplace and then I stripped out of the wet clothing and curled up in a blanket next to the fire and watch it dance around the logs. After a bit I got up and cooked me some eggs fresh from the farmer, real smoked ham, bread and some real preserves made by the same farmer. Some good strong coffee and I was good. (fresh eggs from a farmer? What is this? 1937? ROFL!! This is really an outrageous lie!)

When I woke up, yeah terrible I fell asleep by the fire because I read maybe two pages it was dark out and the fire was out. So I lit the lamps and cooked again and opened a nice bottle of Italian red wine. I had spaghetti with smoked ham cut up on it, cheese, and garlic, with some garlic bread. (O.K. Too many WWII movies that weekend, huh? Was John Wayne or Audie Murphy in any of them?)

So, for one day nothing but being lazy and then early Monday morning back down the mountains to work. Yeah boring but I like boring sometimes. The only item missing was maybe a nice person to have a stimulating chat with about anything or just be crazy and giggle about silly stuff. (this man wouldn't know what roughing it is! He's far too lazy.)

It was nice coming on and seeing an email from you and even better that you sent some photos. (he got to fantasize to new photos!! woo-hoo!!)

By the way it looks as though all had a good time and that is nice.

Thinking of you! (and everyone else I might send this same, slightly edited for each woman - email to)

T
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:26:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: To My Sweet Darling Love, My Passionate Wife, My Everything!
To: Victim #2

Morning Babes! (for goodness sake, don't these guys ever use their victim's NAMES? or is it that hard keeping track?)

I do not know what time you will get up, but I imagine not until one of your kids wakes you up. I want you to know that I so enjoyed chatting with you and even though I am sorry for keeping you up, there is a selfish side of me that is not because my soul needed it. It is who we are as we feed each other's souls and our spirits are as one when we are together and also when we are apart, but the difference is when we are apart our spirits know that it is the physical of each other that is needed to satisfy our physical beings.

There are no others that can do what we are too each other and it would be a crime to even attempt to do such a thing and bring dishonor on the other, even if the other were not to know we would know ourselves. (word salad!)

They say sometimes the good things in life do not come easy. I would say that might be true as we have been missing each other for most of our lives. (but boy have I kept busy with her and her and her and her and her...)

Also, it has bothered me as there was something that you said this evening and then you broke off and maybe you were having second thoughts about it. (uh oh - did she get some inkling something's WRONG with you, Thomas?)

Babes you can talk to me. (because I need to keep profiling my victims so the more I know the better I can keep you roped in) Moments where you may not have been proud of yourself, or whatever, you can talk to me as I have told you so many times Rule #1 Never doubt my love for you! (because once you do, you will see I am a complete fraud)

You are my love and you have to not only know it, but feel it Babes! Hold not back your heart from me and what is on your mind. I need to know that you feel well to come to me and talk. Opinions and what happens are different things as anything that has happened to you in your past is what happened and to know these things also brings me closer to you Babes. (he needs to know what b.s. to keep telling you)

So, please do not hold back because you fear anything from my side. Trust that I will feel with you and love you! Trust in me that much Babes! (he needs more information!)

Yes, I know you trust me because if you did not you would not ever get in the car with me. I know you trust me as you have given your heart to me and you have shared many things with me. I know you trust me because you gave your body and soul to me and that means that I have to take care of this trust and to honor it. (but send me naked pics so I can post them on all the porn sites I visit!)

There is another form of sexual abuse. In fact, so I believe, it is the most common one, and hence it took me so long to get it. This form of abuse comes in four stages:

• Firstly, the victim will be forced to reveal her or his sexual preferences and experiences to the perpetrator.
• Secondly, the perpetrator will condition the victim to direct her or his entire sexuality towards the perpetrator. At this stage, the sexual relationship is intense.
• Thirdly, the perpetrator reduces the intensity of the sexual relationship dramatically, so that the victim is in constant sexual need.
• Fourthy, the perpetrator grants inproper sexual gratification in order to maintain the sexual need of the victim. Now, the victim, who is (sexually) dependent on the perpetrator, can be humiliated, manipulated and used.

• Dr. Ludger Hofmann-Engl

There was nothing that can affect me that to know you are not happy or feel well. I mean, not to be dragging up old things, but the one time when we were really in a difference of opinion and I was upset, but never to the point where I do not want you and you thought that I was not wanting to be around you, and that was not so, I was not wanting you to feel the bad vibes of my being upset. (again... can this guy write a STRAIGHT SENTENCE. He's giving us a headache!)

Please do not get me wrong as I respected your opinion, but then when you came in and I seen you were hurt, that bothered me to no end and I always told you never did I want us to go to sleep upset with one another or to leave the house upset as well. We know not what life brings us when we are apart physically or in sleep, so that if we were never to see each other again, that the last things we remember is that we let the other know our love. (GAG!)

May God have mercy on my soul and allow me to love you as a man loves his wife. That we will have a long, happy, healthy, fruitful life together. For truly I have done some bad things in my life, that scare me sometimes on His allowing my happiness with you. (and he's going to do even worse, believe us)

No matter what though, that you never know sadness from me or because of me as I love you so much. (no, just lies, trauma, emotional rape, fraud, probably bigamy...)

I have to pull things together and it is a shame that money drives so much, but I do not want that we are needy of anything or anyone. I want that the days of our lives have a little comfort, but that we are happy! So, I have looked at making changes, and none that you have asked for as it is all on my own. I so love you and there are minutes, hours, days, and months that I count where we are not together physically that I say oh, what wasted time, but then I say this pain is good because there is someone to love and I know one day it will be for good and ever more! (where's the aspirin? and the sickness bag... these predators all sound the same. When you really look at these sentences they are simply erotic imbedded come ons that truly make no sense)

Love,
T
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From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Victim #2
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Looking Like a Civilian

Hey Babes!

Here is a photo from today! As you can see I was braving it that I would not get wet. This was just before I got wet this morning. There was a vehicle that was coming through and it was on this route. Traveling from Austria into Germany. So, do I look like a tourist? Well, all thought I was a tourist, so that is good!
(Because you ARE a civilian. You are retired Army - traveling around to get laid and put your feet up on the beds of other women you lure in with all that sweet email blah blah blah! )

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. - Busted & Getting Out of "Dodge"

On the honeymoon - I saw papers with the name "Georgine Thomas" on them at the TimeShare in Mexico. but he told the desk person to "take that name off" and explained it all away. (He probably denied doing that when he went back with Georgine and had her put back on!)

While the psychopath is charming and makes friends easily, those who come to rely upon him soon painfully find out that he has no sense of responsibility. Continually promises are made and broken without regard for the gravity of the consequences, for which the psychopath will then deny responsibility. He can solemnly lie while looking the victim in the eye, showing no anxiety whatever.

ORIGINAL

He was at my home for the month of July in 2006, when my oldest child called me in the morning asking me to come over immediately. I know that she was always unsure of Nathan, and she sounded quite panicked. I went over while Nathan was in the garden watering the lawn, and all 6 of my children were there. They were clearly upset, and my oldest child told me that they all loved me and were here for me, before showing me a site showing Nathan Thomas to be a predator. (That site was EOPC)

I at first did not believe it. After reading all of it, there are no words to describe what I felt . But in my heart I knew it, after reading Victim #1's information and seeing his emails, I knew that was his syntax & verbiage.

I went home to confront him, and I so wanted to get an explanation, but no such luck. (There is never any closure or explanation with a pathological. Ever.) Then I knew for sure he was complete fraud!

He put his head in his hands and it was exactly what Victim #1 had said about him & behavior when confronted. He called Victim #1 a "scorned woman." Then I got nothing but "word salad". All he kept saying was "Oh, no, baby, you are my wife" and "Now I have to go to D.C. and clear myself. You remember I said there was a bounty on me and my men?" This he would say regarding his (madeup) team of men that worked under him (btw - he had names for all of them... all in his little mind) (What a full load of B.S. - and of course Victim #2 NEVER SAW HIM after she found all this out!)

Nathan continued "They are out to get me, I need to clear my name, I have to fly out to DC!" I told him to pick up the phone and said "CLEAR YOUSELF NOW!!" But of course he couldn't do it. (BUSTED! any real CIA operative could have fixed it with one or 2 phone calls - but not a pathological liar and predator)

He made a quick exit out of Canada and I have not seen him since. (not a surprise!) I had to move from the home we were living in as I could not afford it on my own and within 10 days, get a second job. Once I did this, I then collapsed. My children watched while their mother fall apart, especially my youngest one. However it affected all of them. (Believe us, he could care less... he is pathological and incapable of caring. He just knew he had to get away from you as fast as possible and start up with someone else.)

Although he deliberately cheats others and is quite conscious of his lies, he appears unable to distinguish adequately between his own pseudo-intentions, pseudo-remorse, pseudo-love, and the genuine responses of a normal person.

His monumental lack of insight indicates how little he appreciates the nature of his disorder.

When others fail to accept immediately his "word of honor as a gentleman," his amazement, I believe, is often genuine. The term genuine is used here not to qualify the psychopath's intentions but to qualify his amazement. His subjective experience is so bleached of deep emotion that he is invincibly ignorant of what life means to others.

His awareness of hypocrisy's opposite is so insubstantially theoretical that it becomes questionable if what we chiefly mean by hypocrisy should be attributed to him.

Having no major values himself, can he be said to realize adequately the nature and quality of the outrages his conduct inflicts upon others?

ORIGINAL

Just before he left my home, my two oldest showed up and began screaming at him "How could you do this to my mom, and our family!!" I had never seen him cower before this time. He always acted like he towered over everyone else, until this time when my two beautiful children did this. I saw a whole other side to this cowardly, selfish sick psychopath. (He was ready to hi-tail out of there!)

He has fooled so so so many people, with the way he speaks quietly and thought out... Probably because he has to think about what he is going to say so he doesn't contradict all of his lies! (Ed Hicks had online "folders" for all his women so he wouldn't forget who he told what to.) Well , he cowered and covered his head like a lost little boy. (doesn't sound like a CIA agent, does it? Too much reality for a predator.)

I have not seen him since July 2006, and completed trauma counseling since then. I still do not know fully the complete damage he has caused in my body & spirit, and see my doctor regularly.

While he fooled me and my family and friends for almost 3 years, he has lied to Georgine and her sons for over 14 years, and these people are seriously messed up now because of it. Nathan took a photo of my son, who was brutually attacked while Nathan was away (probably with another woman) and hospitalized. Nathan refused to come back and help the family saying he was "on a mission." Now I know that it was the SAME MONTH he and Georgine regularly go to that same TimeShare in Mexico where he took me for our 'honeymoon.' To top it off, Nathan told people that it was HIS biological son and that "they" had tried to kill one of his sons to "get at him!" Wonder how many naive women he told this complete lie to? (Nathan takes photos of the children of some of his women, claims them as his and tells girlfriends & wives that these children were killed and "taken from him" by "THEM" because he's CIA & Special Ops. LOL!)

Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.

And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.

You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life?

What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)?

ORIGINAL

I know that his stepson got Georgine away from Nathan once I got in touch with him. But, I know that his mother went back to Nathan and live in San Antonio, Texas. (As long as she stays around him she will remain under his "SPELL")

This man has no feelings for any human beings other than himself. There is so much more I could say about him. Mannerisms, the way he grooms himself, he speaks three other languages and is pretty fluent in a couple other languages, all which makes him look very worldly.

All it really does is increase his predatory hunting grounds.

We are going to publish some of Thomas' "love" emails and stories for the rest of this expose. Come back and read them for real insight into a twisted mind!

How Cheaters Use the Internet to Seek New Romance

Are you in a relationship? If you are, cheating may be a concern of yours. After all, cheating is an issue that many of us have become alto familiar with. You may have been cheated on in the past, you may have known someone else who has been, or you may have learned all about cheating from the television and movies.

If you suspect that your partner is cheating on you, they may be using the internet to do so. Why?

Because the internet has made it very easy for cheaters to seek new romance. Not only is the internet making online affairs easy and convenient, but many cheaters think the internet makes it harder to get caught.

Unfortunately for them and luckily for you, the computer often tells the tale.

As for how men and women use the internet to seek new romance online, there are a number of different approaches taken. One of those is social networking websites. Now, it is important to know that social networking sites, like MySpace, have increased in popularity over the past few years. Just because your partner uses a social networking website, it does not mean that they are cheating on you. They may truly just be interested in connecting with old friends.

Be cautious, however, of a profile that you cannot see or access or the appearance of old girlfriends.

Dating websites are also how many cheaters use the internet to seek new romance online. Unfortunately, dating websites are more risky than social networking websites. If your husband, wife, girlfriend, or boyfriend uses an online dating site, they may have the intention of actually meeting the person at the other end of the computer. This is when an affair stops becoming just an emotional affair and often starts becoming a physical affair. If you ever find that your partner is using an online dating website, be aware because there is a good chance that they are cheating on you or intend to start soon.

As it was previously stated, the internet does make it easier for cheaters to start romances online, but it is also relatively easy to catch a cheater online. To get started, check your computer’s internet history.

To do so, open up a new Internet Explorer or Firefox window. Along the top of the page, you will see the history icon. Clicking on this will tell you all of the websites visited in the past few days.

Be suspicious of no information, as it may mean that the history was purposely cleared.

A keylogger program, also occasionally referred to as a keyword tracker, can also be installed on your computer. These programs work to capture each word that is typed on your computer. If you think that your partner is communicating with their sex partner or partners online through email or in chat room sessions, you may be able to see exactly what it is they are saying. These types of programs can be expensive, but they can also provide you with the proof that you need.

You can read more about KeyLogging here ...

You can also always take the direct approach. If your partner is using the computer and acting secretive, demand to see what they are looking at. Walk over to the computer immediately, request that they get up and you take their seat. View the computer’s internet history immediately. This allows you to see what they have been looking at online before giving a computer savvy cheater time to cover their tracks.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

THE LURES OF THE ONLINE PREDATOR

The excerpts used are from the book THE ART OF SEDUCTION by Robert Greene. Many of these seduction techniques are time-tested and often used in sales & marketing as well as the training of Neuro-Linguistic Programming for salesmen and advertising persons.

For anyone who thinks those "seduce women now" sites are total b.s. - think again. There are 1000s of sites to teach predator HOW TO all over the internet. Some even FREE & interactive. This is powerful, covert stuff that can penetrate even the smartest minds. BEWARE

By the way, did you know that more intelligent people are EASIER to hypnotise? Ask any certified hypnotist and check this fact OUT!

COMMENTS in Dark Blue & Italics are the Fighter Team's and not Mr. Greene's. Other Dark Blue areas in Greene's excerpt are our emphasis only.

HOW TO DO IT

1-CHOOSE THE RIGHT VICTIM

Everything depends on the target of your seduction. Study your prey thoroughly, and choose only those who will prove susceptible to your charms. The right victims are those for whom you can fill a void, who see in you something exotic. They are often isolated or at least somewhat unhappy (perhaps because of recent adverse circumstances), or can easily be made so-for the completely contented person is almost impossible to seduce. The perfect victim has some natural quality that attracts you. The strong emotions this quality inspires will help make your seductive maneuvers seem more natural and dynamic. The perfect victim allows for the perfect chase.

Picking up vulnerable, abused - by parents or partners, disabled, unhappily married, separated and/or despondent people online is the cyberpath's stock in trade.

AND STAY OFF ALL THE ONLINE DATING SITES -
WHERE CYBERPATHS' CAMP OUT!

2-CREATE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY- APPROACH INDIRECTLY

If you are too direct early on, you risk stirring up a resistance that will never be lowered. At first there must be nothing of the seducer in your manner. The seduction should begin at an angle, indirectly, so that the target only gradually becomes aware of you. Haunt the periphery of your target's life-approach through a third party, or seem to cultivate a relatively neutral relationship, moving gradually from friend to lover. Arrange an occasional "chance" encounter, as if you and your target were destined to become acquainted-nothing is more seductive than a sense of destiny. Lull the target into feeling secure, then strike.

Did he tell you that you & he had SO much in common? Did they get you into chatting about life, politics, your family, philosophy? Did they make themselves a confidant and "confide" in you as well? Did they tell you you were the ONLY one who understood them?

3-SEND MIXED SIGNALS

Once people are aware of your presence, and perhaps vaguely intrigued, you need to stir their interest before it settles on someone else. What is obvious and striking may attract their attention at first, but that attention is often short-lived; in the long run, ambiguity is much more potent. Most of us are much too obvious-instead, be hard to figure out. Send mixed signals: both tough and tender, both spiritual and earthy, both innocent and cunning. A mix of qualities suggests depth, which fascinates even as it confuses. An elusive, enigmatic aura will make people want to know more, drawing them into your circle. Create such a power by hinting at something contradictory within you.

Did they say things that made you think WTF?
Did they make comments and then tell you they 'didn't want to talk about it anymore'?
Did you feel they were churning inside and you could "help" them?
Did they use Confusion Technique talk with you or "word salad"?
Stuff that made you think HUH... yet, you felt funny about calling them on it?

4-APPEAR TO BE AN OBJECT OF DESIRE- CREATE TRIANGLES

Few are drawn to the person whom others avoid or neglect; people gather around those who have already attracted interest. We want what other people want. To draw your victims closer and make them hungry to possess you, you must create an aura of desirability - of being wanted and courted by many. It will become a point of vanity for them to be the preferred object of your attention, to win you away from a crowd of admirers. Manufacture the illusion of popularity by surrounding yourself with members of the opposite sex-friends, former lovers, present suitors. Create triangles that stimulate rivalry and raise your value. Build a reputation that precedes you: if many have succumbed to your charms, there must be a reason.

Did they have the spouse who would DIE if they knew the person you are chatting with didn't love them anyone? Did they tell you their former fiance or partner was the best sexual partner ever and/or they still talk frequently with them? Did they miss their "past glories" because all they wanted to do was "please" someone and "make them happy?" Did they suggest they might be looking for something a little better.... even a little better than you? Of course they would NEVER come right out and say that! Do a search on TRIANGULATION - an online predator's FAVORITE 'position.'

5-CREATE A NEED: STIR ANXIETY AND DISCONTENT

A perfectly satisfied person cannot be seduced. Tension and disharmony must be instilled in your targets' minds. Stir within them feelings of discontent, an unhappiness with their circumstances and with themselves: their life lacks adventure, they have strayed from the ideals of their youth, they have become boring. The feelings of inadequacy that you create will give you space to insinuate yourself, to make them see you as the answer to their problems. Pain and anxiety are the proper precursors to pleasure. Learn to manufacture the need that you can fill.

Did they help you understand how bad your current relationship is/was? Did they know you as someone so much more than your partner? Did they tell you they liked who you were inside even if you are fat or ill? Did they tell you that you & they could help & support each other emotionally? Did they make you feel more wanted than you have been in years?

6-MASTER THE ART OF INSINUATION

Making your targets feel dissatisfied and in need of your attention is essential, but if you are too obvious, they will see through you and grow defensive. There is no known defense, however, against insinuation-the art of planting ideas in people's minds by dropping elusive hints that take root days later, even appearing to them as their own idea. Insinuation is the supreme means of influencing people. Create a sublanguage-bold statements followed by retraction and apology, ambiguous comments, banal talk combined with alluring glances-that enters the target's unconscious to convey your real meaning. Make everything suggestive.

• Did they try to initiate cybersex and when you said no - apologize profusely?
  
• Or tell you of an erotic dream and then say they feel so bad they told you if it offended you?
  
• Did they send you erotic cards or pictures and insist your online relationship was NOT about sex but "oh so much more."
  
• Did they suggest a hotel room? A clandestine meeting? A weekend away? Just the two of you? To "comfort" each other?
  
• Did they tell you they "wished" they could have a "fantasy weekend away" with someone that REALLY cared about them - without saying that person might be YOU?
  
• Did you feel almost compelled to throw yourself at them to 'end their pain' and loneliness?

7-ENTER THEIR SPIRIT

Most people are locked in their own worlds, making them stubborn and hard to persuade. The way to lure them out of their shell and set up your seduction is to enter their spirit. Play by their rules, enjoy what they enjoy, adapt yourself to their moods. In doing so you will stroke their deep-rooted narcissism and lower their defenses. Hypnotized by the mirror image you present, they will open up, becoming vulnerable to your subtle influence. Soon you can shift the dynamic: once you have entered their spirit you can make them enter yours, at a point when it is too late to turn back. Indulge your targets' every mood and whim, giving them nothing to react against or resist.

Did they seem to be so much like you it was eerie?
If you were Christian, they were Christian? If you were Agnostic, they were agnostic? and so on?
Did you find them mirroring you? Stealing your words, phrases, thoughts and even parts of your personality? If the relationship is over, did you meet someone else who told you about the predator and what was told them and realize "that was MY story" and they told it as if it was their own!

8-CREATE TEMPTATION

Lure the target deep into your seduction by creating the proper temptation: a glimpse of the pleasures to come. As the serpent tempted Eve with the promise of forbidden knowledge, you must awaken a desire in your targets that they cannot control. Find that weakness of theirs, that fantasy that has yet to be realized, and hint that you can lead them toward it. It could be wealth, it could be adventure, it could be forbidden and guilty pleasures; the key is to keep it vague. Dangle the prize before their eyes, postponing satisfaction, and let their minds do the rest. The future seems ripe with possibility. Stimulate a curiosity stronger than the doubts and anxieties that go with it, and they will follow you.

Was your real-life relationship stale or abusive? No sex? Never went out anywhere? Never travelled anymore? Broke? Did they offer you "REAL LOVE"? was the word "SOULMATE" used often? Were their sexual innuedos erotic & exciting? Did they offer to take you places? Dinners? Theatre? Trips? Did they offer you gifts? To pay your plane fare?

9-KEEP THEM IN SUSPENSE- WHAT COMES NEXT?

The moment people feel they know what to expect from you, your spell on them is broken. More: you have ceded them power. The only way to lead the seduced along and keep the upper hand is to create suspense, a calculated surprise. People love a mystery, and this is the key to luring them farther into your web. Behave in a way that leaves them wondering, What are you up to? Doing something they do not expect from you will give them a delightful sense of spontaneity-they will not be able to foresee what comes next. You are always one step ahead and in control. Give the victim a thrill with a sudden change of direction.

Did they suddenly disappear from IM or Chat for days or weeks? No explanation? Did emails go unresponded to? Did they seem to want to talk to you or be with you one minute and to get rid of you the next? Did they leave the computer for a "few minutes" never to return. Did they say they were going to bed and yet their available IM light was still on? Did you get an odd email saying "sorry we keep missing each other" when you were online at the same time as them and they NEVER ever IM'd to say hello or didn't answer if you IM'd them?

10-USE THE DEMONIC POWER OF WORDS TO SOW CONFUSION

It is hard to make people listen; they are consumed with their own thoughts and desires, and have little time for yours. The trick to making them listen is to say what they want to hear, to fill their ears with whatever is pleasant to them. This is the essence of seductive language. Inflame people's emotions with loaded phrases, flatter them, comfort their insecurities, envelop them in fantasies, sweet words, and promises, and not only will they listen to you, they will lose their will to resist you. Keep your language vague, letting them read into it what they want. Use writing to stir up fantasies and to create an idealized portrait of yourself.

Were they the best partner but unappreciated? the all-star at work? the better parent? the religious altruist? the truth & justice commando? Did they portray themselves as sweet but misunderstood? As imperfect but trying so hard? Was the sexual or romantic talk absolutely mind-blowing? THIS IS A FORM OF MIND CONTROL!!! Did you find it hard to think or function sometimes because of the drug-like nature of this online relationship?

11-PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL

Lofty words and grand gestures can be suspicious: why are you trying so hard to please? The details of a seduction-the subtle gestures, the offhand things you do-are often more charming and revealing. You must learn to distract your victims with a myriad of pleasant little rituals-thoughtful gifts tailored just for them, clothes and adornments designed to please them, gestures that show the time and attention you are paying them. All of their senses are engaged in the details you orchestrate. Create spectacles to dazzle their eyes; mesmerized by what they see, they will not notice what you are really up to. Learn to suggest the proper feelings and moods through details.

The online predator's verbal slight of hand is overwhelming. Even to a smart & savvy person. If they are in a bad relationship, always ask how they are feeling? Had you been to the doctor? What did your doctor say? Are you upset? Something happen? Death in your family? Did they offer their 'strong arms' and warm cyber-embrace? Do they seem to care about the little things in your life like no one else? All part of the bait!

12-POETICIZE YOUR PRESENCE

Important things happen when your targets are alone: the slightest feeling of relief that you are not there, and it is all over. Familiarity and overexposure will cause this reaction. Remain elusive, then, so that when you are away, they will yearn to see you again, and will only associate you with pleasant thoughts. Occupy their minds by alternating an exciting presence with a cool distance, exuberant moments followed by calculated absences. Associate yourself with poetic images and objects, so that when they think of you, they begin to see you through an idealized halo. The more you figure in their minds, the more they will envelop you in seductive fantasies. Feed these fantasies by subtle inconsistencies and changes in your behavior.

Online psychopaths are masters at this. As pointed out above - did they disappear from the net or from you for days or weeks without a word? You call their cell phone and got voicemail? Are they busy for a while, off to work conference or with family for a while? Can't talk to you because something's come up and they are SO SORRY. Yet when they do "pop" on to say hi they are VERY concerned about YOU and said "HI" because they were 'thinking of you so much' and 'upset that they haven't been there for you.' RIGHT......

13-DISARM THROUGH STRATEGIC WEAKNESS AND VULNERABILITY

Too much maneuvering on your part may raise suspicion. The best way to cover your tracks is to make the other person feel superior and stronger. If you seem to be weak, vulnerable, enthralled by the other person, and unable to control yourself, you will make your actions look more natural, less calculated. Physical weakness-tears, bashfulness, paleness-will help create the effect. To further win trust, exchange honesty for virtue: establish your "sincerity" by confessing some sin on your part-it doesn't have to be real. Sincerity is more important than goodness. Play the victim, then transform your target's sympathy into love.

• Did you hear phrases like "sometimes when I talk to you I feel I can't control myself"?
  
• Or did they tell you that you were "too good" for them?
  
• Did they say "if you really knew me, you'd leave me" or "I wish I was as good as you think I am."
  
• Were they STRUGGLING with their feelings and fears about you? Getting so close to someone 'scaring' them?
  
• Did they do something STUPID and 'confess' to you about it?
  
• Did they give you the impression that you were the only person they could TRUST?

14-CONFUSE DESIRE & REALITY: THE PERFECT ILLUSION

To compensate for the difficulties in their lives, people spend a lot of their time daydreaming, imagining a future full of adventure, success, and romance. If you can create the illusion that through you they can live out their dreams, you will have them at your mercy. It is important to start slowly, gaining their trust, and gradually constructing the fantasy that matches their desires. Aim at secret wishes that have been thwarted or repressed, stirring up uncontrollable emotions, clouding their powers of reason. The perfect illusion is one that does not depart too much from reality, but has a touch of the unreal to it, like a waking dream. Lead the seduced to a point of confusion in which they can no longer tell the difference between illusion and reality.

Any of this sound familiar? "if only things were different" or "if/when we are together" or "you are my soulmate" or "it scares me how I feel about you" or "I know we were together in another life" or "if only I'd met you years ago" or "I can't wait to see you" or "we are going to have such a good time when we get together" or "thank goodness I finally met someone who likes _____ also. This will be a blast!" or "I have to thank God for making someone as perfect for me as you, now I don't feel so alone!"

15-ISOLATE THE VICTIM

An isolated person is weak. By slowly isolating your victims, you make them more vulnerable to your influence. Their isolation may be psychological: by filling their field of vision through the pleasurable attention you pay them, you crowd out everything else in their mind. They see and think only of you. The isolation may also be physical: you take them away from their normal milieu, friends, family, home. Give them the sense of being marginalized, in limbo-they are leaving one world behind and entering another. Once isolated like this, they have no outside support, and in their confusion they are easily lead astray. Lure the seduced into your lair, where nothing is familiar.

Online relationships are already like this. In another article posted on this site - it confirms the mental states reached when one is online. Trance and dissociative states. Also, being online gives a person bravery they might not have in person.

• Did they tell you to PLEASE keep the relationship a secret?
  
• Or not to tell or talk to someone you both know or people you both see in chat rooms?
  
• Or to not tell other friends about your "special" relationship or your "treasure"?
  
• Do they ask when your spouse, family or partner is gone or asleep?
  
• Do they discourage you when you say you are going out to do XYZ that it might not be 'good' for you? Or that reading certain books or sites 'might not be the best option'?
  
• Are they narrowing your field of vision?
  
• Do you feel that you & they have something 'sacred' you dare not 'contaminate' by telling others about it?
  
• Does that sound NORMAL to you?
  

The MINUTE they tell you "not to talk to" someone or "not to tell" : Make it your business to talk to the FORBIDDEN person(s) - they might know something about your online 'friend' that is crucial or have been played by the predator themselves! And BELIEVE THEM. Do NOT BELIEVE the "scorned woman" or "hell hath no fury" or "he's crazy" stuff you will hear from your online friend - as much as you might want to. HEALTHY PEOPLE don't need to smear others!

16-PROVE YOURSELF

Most people want to be seduced. If they resist your efforts, it is probably because you have not gone far enough to allay their doubts-about your motives, the depth of your feelings, and so on. One well-timed action that shows how far you are willing to go to win them over will dispel their doubts. Do not worry about looking foolish or making a mistake-any kind of deed that is self-sacrificing and for your targets' sake will so overwhelm their emotions, they won't notice anything else. Never appear discouraged by people's resistance, or complaints. Instead, meet the challenge by doing something extreme or chivalrous. Conversely, spur others to prove themselves by making yourself hard to reach, unattainable, worth fighting over.

• When you questioned them about things that seemed off and red flags - did they have explanation? Offer you 'hard proof'?
  
• Did they do something to "make up for" their absences or gaffs? Did they do little things to "perk you up"? Like send you an ecard or flowers just to say hi.
  
• Did they do things to "make you feel better"?
  
• Did they say things like "I will do anything to make you happy?"
  
• Offer you small private glimpses into their lives to prove they are ok?
  
• Send you pictures (supposedly) of themselves with their parents? other friends? kids? And did they ask you to do the same?

17-EFFECT A REGRESSION

People who have experienced a certain kind of pleasure in the past will try to repeat or relive it. The deepest-rooted and most pleasurable memories are usually those from earliest childhood, and are often unconsciously associated with a parental figure. Bring your targets back to that point by placing yourself in the oedipal triangle and positioning them as the needy child. Unaware of the cause of their emotional response, they will fall in love with you. Alternatively, you too can regress, letting them play the role of the protecting, nursing parent. In either case you are offering the ultimate fantasy: the chance to have an intimate relationship with mommy or daddy, son or daughter.

Stand up for you? Tell you the sort of things you wish your mom or dad had told you? Offer you the sort of verbal and emotional support your current partner never does? Or were they someone you knew from high school, college or a past job who just 'happened' to look you up online or just 'stumbled' on your name & email?

All sorts of reunion sites & social networking are becoming very popular for the cyberpath to go back and rework past targets. If you were a past target they can also use the "but you KNOW me" talk to regain your confidence while getting ready to use you.

18-STIR UP THE TRANSGRESSIVE & TABOO

There are always social limits on what one can do. Some of these, the most elemental taboos, go back centuries; others are more superficial, simply defining polite and acceptable behavior. Making your targets feel that you are leading them past either kind of limit is immensely seductive. People yearn to explore their dark side. Not everything in romantic love is supposed to be tender and soft; hint that you have a cruel, even sadistic streak. You do not respect age differences, marriage vows, family ties. Once the desire to transgress draws your targets to you, it will be hard for them to stop. Take them farther than they imagined-the shared feeling of guilt and complicity will create a powerful bond.

• Did they talk you into cybersex or phone sex? Just this once? Tell you they had "never done this before"?
  
• Did they tell you some dark desire and then immediately apologize and swear they won't talk about it again.
  
• Did they tell you "I saw a hooker once but if my wife knew she'd leave me" and "I only use porn because I am so lonely"?
  
• Did they tell you their past relationship was very complicated because of things you would NEVER get involved with and then say it was the past PARTNER who caused the problem? Or that the partner was "deceased" and their children would "never understand the two of you." That they still care for the past partner but that it was "more than they could deal with".

Are you SURE it was the past partner and not PROJECTION on their part? Also if other people who know this person, such as chat room friends, tell you to watch out - LISTEN TO THEM!!

Also if they INSIST that you delete all chats? or emails? DON'T!!! Copy them to a disk and keep in a safe place. You may need them later and copies can be massaged to give up ISPs, sources codes and so on. Even if you have to lie - DELETE NOTHING once the online friendship turns to "more."

19-USE SPIRITUAL LURES

Everyone has doubts and insecurities-about their body, their self-worth, their sexuality. If your seduction appeals exclusively to the physical, you will stir up these doubts and make your targets self-conscious. Instead, lure them out of their insecurities by making them focus on something sublime and spiritual: a religious experience, a lofty work of art, the occult. Play up your divine qualities; affect an air of discontent with worldly things; speak of the stars, destiny, the hidden threads that unite you and the object of the seduction. Lost in a spiritual mist, the target will feel light and uninhibited.

Deepen the effect of your seduction by making its sexual culmination seem like the 'spiritual union of two souls.'

• Have you & they spent hours talking about God, philosophy and spirituality?
  
• Is this person deeper than you ever imagined? (or appearing that way?)
  
• Do they tell you about your past lives together? you being twin souls or soulmates?
  
• That it was destiny not the internet that brought you together. That you have a special energy?
  
• That you give them goosebumps just being online with them?
  
• They can feel you without being in the same room with you? Maybe that's possible but don't you wonder where they LEARNED lines like that?
  
• Are they REALLY going to be honest and tell you about all their other online targets?
  
• Do they tell you your age, waistline or physical/ mental illness is of 'no consequence' because it is "obvious you are beautiful on the inside"?

One of the most priceless lines we ever heard was "We have been more intimate online than we ever could be in person." Answer? Cyberpaths sometimes can't have sex with a normal woman. They are so used to looking at porn babes & hookers or masturbating (having sex with themselves) they are unable to perform in normal circumstances. At least not with any regularity. So, they dump you while trying to appear ethical about it.
(Sheesh if you are going to dump & devalue someone - be STRAIGHT WITH THEM!)

20-MIX PLEASURE WITH PAIN

The greatest mistake in seduction is being too nice. At first, perhaps, your kindness is charming, but it soon grows monotonous; you are trying too hard to please, and seem insecure. Instead of overwhelming your targets with niceness, try inflicting some pain. Lure them in with focused attention, then change direction, appearing suddenly uninterested. Make them guilty and insecure. Even instigate a breakup, subjecting them to an emptiness and pain that will give you room to maneuver-now a rapprochement, an apology, a return to your earlier kindness, will turn them weak at the knees. The lower the lows you create, the greater the highs. To heighten the erotic charge, create the excitement of fear.

O.K. heard any of THESE lines? (designed for YOU to leave them so they can play martyr with the next victim)

• "If you want I will go away and not chat with you anymore" or "if this relationship is causing you pain, maybe we should end it"
  
• Are they pulling away and trying to make it seem like your idea or they are doing you a favor?
  
• Have they spent time online with you waxing poetic about a past girl/boyfriend as if that person was the Holy Grail or 'the one that got away'; And you feel like chopped liver after listening to that 'confession'?
  
• Or was your online fun interrupted by reality and that person said "my partner found out" and disappeared, blocking you & your emails?
  
• Or that "its best we don't talk for a while" and IF and when they return they "missed you so much."
  
• Do they seem to play come-to-me-go-away? As if they can't 'make up their minds to be with you?
  
• Have you tried to cut it off only to have them email you or people you both know BEGGING you to talk to them again?

21-GIVE THEM SPACE TO FALL: THE PURSUER IS PURSUED

If your targets become too used to you as the aggressor, they will give less of their own energy, and the tension will slacken. You need to wake them up, turn the tables. Once they are under your spell, take a step back and they will start to come after you. Begin with a touch of aloofness, an unexpected nonappearance, a hint that you are growing bored. Stir the pot by seeming interested in someone else. Make none of this explicit; let them only sense it and their imagination will do the rest, creating the doubt you desire. Soon they will want to possess you physically, and restraint will go out the window. The goal is to have them fall into your arms of their own will. Create the illusion that the seducer is being seduced.

Did they tell you its more fun when YOU are the aggressor now? Or that the online thing was getting tedious? If there was cybersex did they tell you they want REAL? Did they suggest you are throwing yourself at them? Remember WHO started the relationship!

22-USE PHYSICAL LURES

Targets with active minds are dangerous: if they see through your manipulations, they may suddenly develop doubts. Put their minds gently to rest, and waken their dormant senses, by combining a nondefensive attitude with a charged sexual presence. While your cool, nonchalant air is calming their minds and lowering their inhibitions, your glances, voice, and bearing-oozing sex and desire-are getting under their skin, agitating their senses and raising their temperature. Never force the physical; instead infect your targets with heat, lure them into lust. Lead them into the moment-an intensified present in which morality, judgment, and concern for the future all melt away and the body succumbs to pleasure.

"This is so wrong but so right!" or
"I just can't do this - it would hurt you/ both of us/ our families" or
"I didn't mean for it to get this way - even though I want you."
Haul out the puke bucket when they start with that stuff!

23-MASTER THE ART OF THE BOLD MOVE

A moment has arrived: your victim clearly desires you, but is not ready to admit it openly, let alone act on it. This is the time to throw aside chivalry, kindness, and coquetry and to overwhelm with a bold move. Don't give the victim time to consider the consequences; and create conflict, stir up tension, so that the bold move comes as a great release. Showing hesitation or awkwardness means you are thinking of yourself, as opposed to being overwhelmed by the victim's charms. Never hold back or meet the target halfway, under the belief that you are being correct and considerate; you must be seductive now, not political. One person must go on the offensive, and it is you.

Heard this or something like it? - "this is so hard for me to say but I think I love you" or "I have fallen in love with you" or "I can't go another day without you". Sorry, you can't LOVE someone you have NEVER MET IN PERSON. Don't buy it. You can 'love' the image they are presenting or the attention they are giving you - but until you meet IN PERSON and spend some time together, meet their families, see how they interact with the public for a few months (not time in bed) will you know if this is someone you can really LOVE or if its just the lust of the lonely.

24-BEWARE THE AFTER-EFFECTS

Danger follows in the aftermath of a successful seduction. After emotions have reached a pitch, they often swing in the opposite direction-toward lassitude, distrust, disappointment. Beware of the long, drawn-out goodbye; insecure, the victim will cling and claw, and both sides will suffer. If you are to part, make the sacrifice swift and sudden. If necessary, deliberately break the spell you have created. If you are to stay in a relationship, beware a flagging of energy, a creeping familiarity that will spoil the fantasy. If the game is to go on, a second seduction is required. Never let the other person take you for granted-use absence, create pain and conflict, to keep the seduced on tenterhooks.

The psychological harm caused when predators just abandon their targets is filling many psychologist's offices these days. Many therapists are clueless how to truly help these people heal, as relationships with pathologicals are different and the victims must be deprogrammed.

There is no closure with these psychopaths. They beg for you to "let them start a new life" or "I am sorry I hurt you but I have to go." Some even pretend to be someone else and send you a 'So & So Died' email. Don't buy it!

Rather than owning and dealing with what they have done to you and everyone around both of you - they withdraw and try to erase what occurred between you as if it never happened.

You may even be slandered by the predator who tells people you are harassing them when you are looking for closure. Don't expect closure.

A real person would apologize and possibly work to reframe the whole relationship, bringing normalcy and light into it. The relationship might then end on its own or become what it should have been all along.

But don't hold your breath. Online psychopaths rarely do that. They almost never allow their targets to vent their rage and confusion. They simply run and start over.

Some even try to reinvent themselves as normal humans and make contrition to their immediately families until things get comfortable enough for them to do it again.

Expose these people for what they are so they don't harm others. Don't stoop to their level of lies & defamation - just tell the truth and back it up.

And if you really still care about them? Expose them so they stop harming THEMSELVES as well.

APPENDIX A:
SEDUCTIVE ENVIRONMENTS/ SEDUCTIVE TIME

In seduction, your victims must slowly come to feel an inner change. Under your influence, they lower their defenses, feeling free to act differently, to be a different person. Certain places, environments, and experiences will greatly aid you in your quest to change and transform the seduced. Spaces with a theatrical, heightened quality-opulence, glittering surfaces, a playful spirit-create a buoyant, childlike feeling that make it hard for the victim to think straight. The creation of an altered sense of time has a similar effect-memorable, dizzying moments that stand out, a mood of festival and play. You must make your victims feel that being with you gives them a different experience from being in the real world.

This is so easy to do online!! People already have dissociative states when online and feel "melded" to their computers. They want the fantasy or at least the escape from everyday pain they aren't getting. Online gaming rooms, chats, and so on give people freedom to be "anyone you want them to be." The internet is great but relationships are for real life! If this person refuses to introduce you to their friends or even meet you within 6 weeks of chatting with you? Say goodbye. And the MINUTE you see a red flag - back off. This isn't the love of your life - its the lure of the predator!

CROSS POSTED HERE

Nathan E.B. Thomas Jr's Victim #2 Tells Her Story!

Now let's continue on with Thomas' Victim #2 - his REAL story gets more horrifying in its exploitation and more 'textbook' cyberpath as it goes on. Our comments & opinions are in Dark Blue. There are links embedded in this story as all our posts - so run your cursor over them for further explanations of terms:

I met Nathan E.B. Thomas. Jr. on Interracial Matcher website in August 2004. (uh-oh ONLINE DATING! Here we go again!) He sent me a short polite email saying that it was my eyes that got him. (note he said the SAME thing with Victim #1)

Everything depends on the target of your seduction. Study your prey thoroughly, and choose only those who will prove susceptible to your charms. The right victims are those for whom you can fill a void, who see in you something exotic. They are often isolated or at least somewhat unhappy (perhaps because of recent adverse circumstances), or can easily be made so-for the completely contented person is almost impossible to seduce.

I went away with my children on a holiday the following weekend, and when I returned he had sent me another email asking how the holiday was. Then I received a photo of him. A very straight forward photo of himself standing beside his BMW, and he also sent a poem along with his email.

He told me that his "beloved wife Felicia had died of cancer about 8 years ago". (again the same lies he told Victim #1).

To further win trust, exchange honesty for virtue: establish your "sincerity" by confessing ... -it doesn't have to be real. Sincerity is more important than goodness. Play the victim, then transform your target's sympathy into love.

He sent many many more emails from then on, and included poems that he wrote (probably same poems he sent to all his other victims), as well as songs in almost every other email (exactly the same M.O. as Victim #1).

The trick to making them listen is to say what they want to hear, to fill their ears with whatever is pleasant to them. This is the essence of seductive language. Inflame people's emotions with loaded phrases, flatter them, comfort their insecurities, envelop them in fantasies, sweet words, and promises, and not only will they listen to you, they will lose their will to resist you. Keep your language vague, letting them read into it what they want. Use writing to stir up fantasies and to create an idealized portrait of yourself.

When I asked him what he did for a living, he said that he "caught bad guys". He led me to believe that he was a police officer of some sort, but , after we had met in person, he told me in a rental vehicle, which was always a big black or white Lincoln SUV (he said these rental cars were the only safe place to talk to me about his 'secret job') that he worked with for CIA, with Special Services. (lie! so many Cyberpaths tell women this we have lost count - so has the CIA. Thomas gets all his fantasies from the spy movies he watches and takes notes from, apparently obsessively)

[military]... careers attract men who enjoy power. Furthermore, psychopaths often claim to have done a lot of things in the military that they never did (and some weren’t even in the military). Many psychopaths like to claim they were a mercenary in a war, a political hostage, Navy Seal, or CIA operatives—often none of which is true. Interestingly, what they claim to have done always portrays them in a position of authority or hero-like.

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

He would never tell me about how he spent the money or where he had been. He led me to believe he had been with the CIA or other highly secretive government operations.

"Rebecca's Story" - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

He said that after his "wife, Felicia" died that he took on this job after retiring from the military as a sargeant major with the US Air Force. (he was Chief of Housing of the 6th ASG in Germany - NOT a combat officer!)

He told me that he also paid for his mother's condominium and that he had six siblings (portraying himself as wealthy - no wonder he's so 'touchy' about money now and trying to present Victim #2 as 'greedy' LOL! Because being wealthy was part of his self-made fantasy world).

He sent many poems, emails many times every day, said that he "cared for his mother", etc etc. He made me believe I had found an exceptional man who made me willing to open my heart again.

The entire time he knew everything about me, and profiled, groomed and lured me like he did all the other vulnerable all the women he hurt. He had no concern for how vulnerable I and my children may have been -- or anyone else. Looking back, it all make sense now - there were times I would cry over certain things and he would show no emotion whatsoever. (because he's probably a PSYCHOPATH!)

The purpose of the luring stage is to hook her. The purpose of the honeymoon stage is to hoodwink her. In the psychopath’s arsenal to achieve this hooking and hoodwinking, is any person, place, thing, word, or behavior that will sell her on his illusion. While she is reeling in flattery, swimming in oxytocin, and snuggling up to his stories of their future lives together…the psychopath is solidifying his internal imprint in her by his use of trance and capitalizing on her suggestibility. -

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

He first visited my family and I in November 2004, and then returned to spend Christmas 2004 with us, taking me away for a few days to Whistler Mountain in Canada. He paid for Christmas gifts for my children, the hotel and everything else, totally sweeping me off of my feet.

Tension and disharmony must be instilled in your targets' minds. Stir within them feelings of discontent, an unhappiness with their circumstances and with themselves: their life lacks adventure...

He made a point of sitting down with my 16 year old son and asking his permission to date me and promised to "never hurt me". (LOL! He was seeing Victim #1 at the same time and it is believed at LEAST one other woman! And this is not including his wife, Georgine - who was sitting in Texas probably waiting for him to come home from his 'latest secret mission'.)

Never appear discouraged by people's resistance, or complaints. Instead, meet the challenge by doing something extreme or chivalrous.

He came back again in February 2005 on Valentines Day, and showered me and my children with gifts. By March 2005 he paid for me to come to Germany, which I was very nervous about flying and leaving my children. However by this time he had my heart, so I went. (love bombing)

The isolation may also be physical: you take them away from their normal milieu, friends, family, home. Give them the sense of being marginalized, in limbo-they are leaving one world behind and entering another. Once isolated like this, they have no outside support, and in their confusion they are easily lead astray. Lure the seduced into your lair, where nothing is familiar.

From then on it was him coming to see me in Canada every other month for two to three week. Then in July 2005 I flew to Germany and we spent 3 weeks driving from Germany through Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Paris, and then going on to the French Riviera. How could anyone who did this be married to someone else? (because he's a con man and had his first wife conned that he was away on 'secret missions.') I would have never guessed. (Exactly what he hoped. And he'd emotionally overwhelmed her so she never googled him or ran a background check. Another thing that the predators on all the online dating sites hope or ask you not to do. ALWAYS, ALWAYS CHECK THEM OUT - ESPECIALLY IF THEY SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!)

Familiarity and overexposure will cause this reaction. Remain elusive, then, so that when you are away, they will yearn to see you again, and will only associate you with pleasant thoughts. Occupy their minds by alternating an exciting presence with a cool distance, exuberant moments followed by calculated absences. Associate yourself with poetic images and objects, so that when they think of you, they begin to see you through an idealized halo. The more you figure in their minds, the more they will envelop you in seductive fantasies. Feed these fantasies by subtle inconsistencies and changes in your behavior.

He told me that his base was in Germany, and so that is where we would meet when he flew me somewhere to visit when he could not come here. He never stayed at my home, but always a hotel when he came to see me, as he said it was out of respect for my children. (trying to paint himself as ethical & moral - before he moved in for the kill - like they all do. Also gave him a chance to be alone and call or email his wife, all his other victims saying he was on a "secret mission" in Canada for the CIA. LOL!)

"Since psychopaths are chameleons, they pretend to be whatever their women are. They probably mimicked the women’s own moral principles.

By the end of the relationship, she was likely to have become mortified at his immoral behavior and how it took her down a negative path she never intended on."

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

Little did I know that his wife since 1995, Georgine, and her two sons (Nathan's step-children) Rickey -- 28 , and David -- 25 lived in Germany, and that he was nothing more than a retired, old, fat man who lied everytime he opened his mouth.

In September of 2005, he came to Canada and told me that the CIA would not let him leave, and that if we were married, they would be more acceptable to having him leave. He wanted to get married in a few days while he was here. It seemed a little rushed (they all RUSH you - with good reason - THEY HAVE AN AGENDA) But by this time he had me believing everything he told me. (BTW - Thomas married Georgine while he was STILL MARRIED to a woman named MARION who lives in Germany and who he has 2 children with. There was a divorce after the fact from Marion however -- the marriage to Georgine is also still BIGAMOUS!)

To keep women from being able to think things through and to respond to red flags, the psychopath induces fast paced relationships, whirlwinds of dating intensity, and uses emotional suffocation techniques. Most women found themselves unable to slow down the race to the altar, to their beds, or into their homes. Since psychopaths are extraverts, they are likely to be persistent (if not forceful) in their pursuit of women.

“He really pursued me... The courtship was very short. Whirlwind trips, gifts and early on started calling me pet names as if we had been together forever. He... called me constantly, texted me, ...sent flowers to home and work, constant emails.”

While this may seem just “dream-like” to her, it’s pure manipulation and planning on his part. Couple his plan to fast-forward the relationship with his poor impulse control and you have a relationship rushing ahead at the speed of light.

Many women realized in retrospect that there was a “reason” the relationship was on the fast-track. The psychopath had a “need” to be filled whether that was needing a place to live, a business partner, or a sex partner - there was an agenda as to why the pacing of the relationship was so fast.

Some psychopaths even hid the motivation behind their fast paced relationship for other reasons...

Even her red flags often were not enough to put the brakes on the forceful momentum the psychopath had going.

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

After all, when he wasnt with me at my home, we were talking every morning afternoon and evening via internet. (you and numerous other women)

In retrospect when he "said" he was in the United States, it was in emails. And he "said" he was" going to Iraq to work with Special Services." (Probably the same baloney he told his wife when he was off seeing you or other women. He went to see Victim #1 during this time too. See her story earlier in the month.)

After getting married, we went to Mexico for our honeymoon for 9 days. I know now he spent this time at the time share condominium that he and his first wife Georgine owned! (what a sick man!)

MORE TO COME!

THE TRUTH: Nathan Ernest Burl Thomas, Jr. - But It DOESN'T END HERE!

Thomas tells his targets he is a widower and a Special Agent/ Spy/ CIA. The TRUTH?


"I met my spouse through a lady friend in Germany. I retired from the United States Army as a Sergeant Major with 25 years." and also "I am the Chief of Housing for US military and civilian personnel in government and private rental housing in southern Germany. Keeps the mind sharp and is very rewarding."
(his own words from Classmates.com! and WHICH spouse did he mean?)

MARRIAGE INFORMATION:
Groom's Name & Bride's Name:
THOMAS, NATHAN ERNEST BURL & C###NTON, GEORGINE MARIA
License County: CLARK (Nevada, USA)
Marriage County: CLARK
Marriage Date: 08-07-1995
Filing Date: 08-17-1995
Certificate Number: 0817#657#14

(BTW - Thomas married Georgive, above, while he was STILL MARRIED to a woman named MARION who lives in Germany. There was a divorce after the fact from Marion but no annulment, so the marriage to Georgine is also BIGAMOUS!)

PHONY!

Thomas is Retired Military but told Target #1 he was off to Afghanistan to 'catch bin Laden' & deal with 'al Qeada' and involved in high-level spying.... NOT!!

HE IS NOT A CIA SPY, NOT SPECIAL OPS, NOT A SECRET AGENT - EXCEPT IN HIS HEAD (this gets better in future posts... as he calls himself
"THE BLACK RIDER" - LOL!)

He tells all his women to "keep it a secret" because the CIA might hurt them. He shows pictures of his wives' and girlfriends' CHILDREN and says either they are HIS (not) or they were killed by covert agents to get "at him."

That's why narcissists tell you lies they know you couldn't possibly believe. They are just children playing Pretend. Like any little child playing Pretend, they get mad at any other child who doesn't play along. They cry, "No! You're not supposed to say/do THAT! You're supposed to say/do THIS!"

That's all narcissists want: they just want you to play along. Otherwise you make it hard for them to pretend.

But they couldn't care less what you think. Indeed, you DON'T think in their game of Pretend, because you are just a character in a work of fiction they author by revising reality serendipitously on the fly. You know - improvisation.

He's a delusional sociopath & charming liar as well as a sex addict.

Pass this on:
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1090.htm
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FROM TARGET #1's STORY:

- He stays available (on instant messengers) day and night on the internet (till 4am/ 5am in the morning). I don't know how he can function if he barely sleeps!; (because he's a predator -- research shows that pathologicals are more 'manic' and have less need for sleep -- and he's looking for more women who won't question him after he LOVE BOMBS them, they are hooked and probably grateful for his attentions.... its all a lie)

- I feel that all the photos he sent me were taken by other girlfriends (Prague, castles, etc.). If he lived in Germany for so many years why does he need to be always touring Europe? One of them I feel was taken by one of his wives for sure (the one at the lake in Chiemsee);

- Maybe (and I say maybe), I am suspicious that he gets explicit photos from his online girlfriends and he may put them on or sell them to some Internet site. I thank god because although he tried a number of times to get me to take explicit photos for him, I always said no and I believe this was one of the reasons he was trying to get rid of me; (He's a perv and these internet predators always behave as if they are ABOVE REPROACH while asking you for things WAY outside your comfort zone. They actually get thrills from getting you to do things YOU WOULD NEVER NORMALLY DO.)

- He's a retired Seargent Major and at least during 2002/2004, he was the Chief of Housing for military and civilian personel on Government for the 6th ASG and dealing with private housing rentals in the South of Germany. He lied about his military involvement.

He is NOT Special Ops, CIA or James Bond - it was investigated by the POW Network - not even close!

- He told me not to tell anyone about our relationship (our "Treasure" he called it)
(if the person chatting or emailing with you is telling the truth, WHY KEEP IT A SECRET!?!? If ANYONE is telling you not to tell anyone and/or not to tell specific people that both of you might know from chat - THIS IS A MASSIVE RED FLAG!!! - If this happens - MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS TO CONTACT THE "FORBIDDEN PERSON" and to TELL TELL TELL)

- He inferred that questioning him and checking him out was BAD because it would SHOW I DIDN'T TRUST HIM.
(throwing HIS guilt on the target!!! This is crap - the MOMENT your online 'friend' tells you NOT to check them out and that if you do, you don't trust them? - MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS TO GET A FULL CHECK ON THEM - many sites can do so for nominal fees - see our resources at the right)

- Investigation showed Thomas has an email and instant message contact list FULL of female "friends." He tends to work on one or two for a while, then moves on to others. Mostly Non-American ladies, ALL met via dating sites (where he LIES about his marital status) or penpal sites.

- I've confronted him but he denies everything. He feels no regret and he blames me for everything since I don't trust him. He went as far as to tell me I was endangering lives with the CIA by questioning him!
(BLAME SHIFTING & GUILT OF THE PREDATOR - he tried to silence ALL the other women as well with this same baloney!)

- He asked ME not to harass him (they ALL accuse their victims of harassing them.)

Since when is demanding truth & some honest explanations harassment?.

One of the times I was confronting him online, he pretended he was his son, just to not answer! He doesn't admit the truth even when its right under his nose. At least he could have tried to say "I'm sorry" but he didn't because his lack of feelings and regret. (Thomas is obviously a psychopath - no remorse, no conscience, read THE PSYCHOPATH NEXT DOOR)

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THIS IS WHY IT IS WELL WORTH IT TO ALWAYS CHECK OUT WHO YOU'RE CHATTING WITH.

AND STAY OFF ALL ONLINE DATING SITES WHERE PREDATORS LIVE!

(DO IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!!)

MORE TO COME ON THIS PREDATOR - WHO IS STILL AT LARGE!!

CyberHarassers in UK and USA Brought to Justice

A television presenter has told how she feared for her life after a viewer bombarded her with abusive emails while she was pregnant.

Alexis Bowater, 39, received a stream of threatening messages including one which read: 'I hope your baby dies'.

The former newsreader said the threats kept her awake at night and made her frightened to be at home alone without her husband.

Alexander Reeve, 24, sent her 26 messages in one five month period, leading Mrs Bowater to constantly fear for her and her children's safety.

Alexis Bowater was harassed by Alexander Reeve throughout her pregnancy.

Speaking after her tormentor admitted sending numerous emails of a violent or sexual nature, Mrs Bowater said: 'I would lie in bed at night thinking, 'Is this person going to kill me? Am I going to die?'

'I would be in an empty house with no husband around, and when you're comforting a toddler in the middle of the night and you hear a creak on the stairs, it's absolutely terrifying.

'I used to go to bed making plans of how I was going to get myself and my children out of the house if someone came in.

'It was terrifying. You wonder about the people driving in a car behind you and people in the street. Nobody knew who he was or what he looked like.'

Mrs Bowater, who presented the evening news on ITV Westcountry, said police became involved when the harassment started in 2006 but their investigations drew a blank.

The daughter of Sir Euan and Lady Bowater of Chagford said:

'Then it started again and they pieced it together.

'I've had people harassing me on and off over the years since I've been working at ITV but never, ever this aggressive and serious.'

She added: 'He was sending anonymous e-mails to work which were pretty aggressive, graphic and threatening. This went on for years.

'This last summer was the worst, the threats and e-mails were escalating. They only just stopped short of threatening to take my life.

'He was threatening very serious damage to me and he claimed to know where I lived.'

Last week Reeve, from Looe, Cornwall, pleaded guilty to five counts of communicating false information with intent and causing fear of violence.

He also admitted twice communicating false information that a bomb was in the ITV studios at Langage Science Park in Plymouth, Devon, and will be sentenced next month.

Plymouth Crown Court heard he sent emails 'of an extremely explicit sexual nature' with some specifically referring to Ms Bowater's pregnancy.

The court heard he was 'fragile' and lived with his parents and his threats were considered 'very real'.

Mrs Bowater, who is now a full time mother and lives in South Devon, said after the hearing: 'I am so pleased that this cowardly man who terrorised me, my family and my unborn children for so many years has been brought to justice.

'He was saying all sorts of unspeakable things that an unspeakable person would do to a woman.

'People ought to realise you can't do this to people. Maybe people go on the internet and think if they send emails or say things it doesn't affect people, but it does.

A police spokesman said: 'This should send out a stark message to those who think, for whatever reason, that they will not be caught if they choose to undertake this kind of reckless activity.'

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Suspect Faces Cyberstalking Federal Charges For Indiana Incident

An Ohio man who used phony MySpace (dot) com pages to embarrass a Lake Station couple faces federal cyberstalking charges.

Thomas Slapnicker, 26, was arrested near Cleveland, Ohio for allegedly making threats against a victim in Lake Station and her partner, and using the social networking website MySpace to create Web pages posing as the couple, according to a federal indictment released this week.

The indictment says that after the woman obtained a court order prohibiting Slapnicker from contacting her, he then used MySpace and other sites to embarrass her and make her boyfriend appear to be a racist pedophile.

On one phony page, Slapnicker posted the victims' address and offered to meet strangers there for sex.

On a second page, he portrayed the second victim as a pedophile and a racist, again posting their address and inviting "those who disagreed with these claims to meet (the victim)" at their residence, the indictment states.

Slapnicker also allegedly made a series of threatening phone calls to the victims from Ohio, a violation of a restraining order.

Slapnicker's attorney, Roseann Ivanovich, could not be reached.

Authorities say he has been jailed since being arrested and will be transferred to Indiana for federal court hearings in Hammond.

ORIGINAL

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr - Sounds Sweet but the LIES Just Go ON & ON!

More of Thomas' Bull to Victim #1 -- probably 'templates' of what he sends to all the other women, wives, etc. (EOPC's comments in dark blue)

Sound familiar readers?


Note this self-professed "SPECIAL OPS/ CIA OPERATIVE" EATING & OUT OF SHAPE!

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:21:30 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re:
To: Victim #1

Cutie, it looks as though 19:00 i will have to talk with the States in a Teleconference. (your wife calling you? or another woman or date?) I do not know how long that will take. I do not know if it would be worth it. How does it look for you on saturday?

----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear-----
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:58:42 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: Cutie!
To: Target #1

Well, I got your message that you are not going to be on line. Well, I know you are just as sad as i am, but at least I can e-mail you and let you know that you are on my mind a lot when I am not working. So, I was so looking for you to show up, but hey things happen and I am just happy to know that you are there. (Yes, Nathan wants the Victim to REPORT her whereabouts to him.... covert control! He even bought her an expensive laptop LOADED WITH SPYWARE so he would know who she was talking to and what she was saying!)

When you have the chance drop me a line and I will return to you answers or just a reply when I get to a machine.

BE SWEET and DO NOT SHARE OUR TREASURE :)
(TYPICAL PREDATOR!!! DON'T TELL ANYONE ELSE!! WHY???? IF YOU ARE HONEST & TRUTHFUL - WHY NOT SHARE? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?)

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:40:11 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi!! Here I am
To: Victim #1

Hey Cutie! (gag!! Do these guys EVER use a woman's REAL NAME?)
I hope all is well and I want you to know that I had a wonderful time and I hope that the time was equally as nice for you as it was for me. As soon as I landed, there was work for me and I just went to another location got on another plane and flew out. It was raining in Germany when I returned. I was on the fast highway and the camera from the police got me as I did not have my detector on. Well, that will be a nice little fine.

So, do you still feel the same about me? Are you happy that we got a chance to meet again? (tell me so I know what I need to do to keep you REELED IN and NAILED DOWN!!) Well, no matter for me I can tell you that it was a time to be remembered and I think that you will be in my thoughts for many days and months to come. I cannot tell you how much it meant to me. I think this you will never truly know, but I do and I thank you for everything. (laying on the GUILT so she keeps believing your bullcrap)

You are a very good woman and I am happy to know that you are there because you are a very special person to me. (And cyberpaths LOVE to just suck GOOD PEOPLE dry like the EMOTIONAL VAMPIRES they are!)

T

----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 11:12:48 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: How Are You Doing Cutie?
To: Victim #1

Well, it rained cats and dogs last night and today the sun is shining. I am trying to rest and in between i am writing to you. The last mail that i sent to your hotmail account said that it was waiting to be delivered, so i guess that means your hotmail account is full. (poor Nathan...)

well the only thing that has me nervous right now is making it to the airport in time to catch the flight. (wonder if he told the wife/ other women it was BUSINESS? or does he just need to get out of town?) I will be doing my best and just hope that there are no traffic jams as happens around Frankfurt during this time of the day. So keep your fingers crossed.

You see I have one of those seats in the plane that you see flying to you and your sweet smile.
T
----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----


Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:15:47 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: Hey Cutie!
To: Victim#1

Well I hope this e-mail finds you in good spirits and I hope that you will enjoy our nest (freudian slip AGAIN) meeting, even though it will not be as long as I would like for it to be. We will have a nice room where I think if I sound too loud that you will be able to find peace somewhere in the location we will be staying.

Maybe you need to bring some ear plugs just in case. I will be tired when i get there as I will have had a very long day and i am going to have to rush in order to make the flight. (so many women in so many countries)

Now all I have to pray for is that I will not have any trouble dealing with traffic jams on my way to the airport. I will have been traveling all of that week, so when i arrive to your location I will not have too many clean clothes to wear as most of it will have been used on my previous days of work. well, lets hope I can get a one day dry cleaning service. (none of the other women will do your laundry?)

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 07:12:59 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Another Mail for You! ( I hope you can come)
To: Victim #1

If you think that you will be able to fly on the dates that I suggested then you will have to book a flight out early to ensure you have a seat. Maybe from your end there should be a direct flight from ### to Frankfurt am Main. If you can make it, then as soon as you know the price let me know because I want to ensure that I have the money for you when you arrive. (He pays for her flight.... should just pay for a hooker and save the poor Victim the pain of the truth and possible germs passed!)

I will be on and off of the Internet, so when you think you will be on leave me a message. I will try to check in about every half hour on the hour. I will try to be back again around 12:30 your time. You will not be able to reach me by phone, so we only have the email right now.

It seems as though you were not too happy with the wedding. What was it that bothered you? I hope you have photos so that I can see how pretty you were there and all dressed up too. (yes so he can put you on his trophy wall!)

Miss you Cutie!

T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 06:26:04 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Getting Together (Means You Have to Fly)
To: Victim #1

Cutie,
It looks like I am going to have to have a pretty busy schedule, but I think there is a way that we can still make the week of the 16th work, but it would involve your coming here. Here is what I was thinking. If you could fly out and arrive here the evening of evening of 18 September in Germany and return to ### on 22 September that would give us plenty of time together. I would have to work the day of 19 and a part of 20 September, but it will be the most time that we could have together, or else we will have to wait until October and I really did not want to wait that late. If you agree, book the flight from your area to Frankfurt am Main Germany. Let me know what the round trip ticket cost and I will pay you the cost as soon as you arrive.
T

(Thomas' was going to take the Victim on a cruise!! She would NEVER see his HOME. That said, she decided against going. Phew!

And you gotta wonder - how many other women was he juggling here. He must have been thrilled --- so many free women for only some sweet lies!)

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:09:22 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sorry!
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!
No problem, when we are together then I can explain some of the things to you like I said before. Hey, I have to work this weekend also and I am sorry that I missed you today. Well, the good thing is we are able to communicate. (you mean fill her head full of your word salad?)

I will be chatting with you be sweet and plenty of hugs from me to you :)

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:26:40 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm counting the days
To: Victim #1

Now how could I forget a little Cutie like you? If you do not know how special you are to me by now then you will never know. I think thought that you know that you are very special to me and that you are in my heart also.

(SPARE US ALL!!! She was getting wise to you and you got nervous so you threw more 'love' bombing at her. DOES HE CUT & PASTE THESE EMAILS OR VARIATIONS TO ALL HIS VICTIMS???)

T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:24:06 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: I am Going to say good Night
To: Victim #1

I had a wonderful time today and it was so nice chatting with you. I can tell that you have let me really deep inside of you and I thank you for that honor. ###, I will try to be a good man to you and I hope that you will be happy to always have me in your life. (what a perv! always be happy to have a lying cheating possible bigamist in her life? NOT!) You are such a good woman.

Night Cutie! (use people's NAMES for goodness' sake!)
T

NATHAN E.B. THOMAS, JR. BUSTED AND STILL LYING!!!

THOMAS' EMAIL RESPONSE TO VICTIM#1 WHEN SHE FOUND OUT HE WAS MARRIED & SIMPLY RETIRED ARMY... AND THEN HE ADDS TO THE B.S. By "BEING SOMEWHERE FIGHTING TERRORISM":

---- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Sent: April X, 2005
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Target #1

"Drop the other email address as it is still active, but not an address for you to use as you have in the past. I think we need to start all over again with this relationship, if that is possible. (GOT TO LEARN TO LIE BETTER? OTHER WOMEN HAVE THAT OTHER EMAIL NOW? Warning: Thomas has been found on at least FIVE different online dating sites, not to mention the pen pal sites, reunion sites and could be anywhere, with anyone and have MORE WOMEN on the hook for freebies! Thomas is this month's POSTER BOY for STAYING OFF THE ONLINE DATING SITES!!!)

First I understand the pain you went through and as I told you in the beginning that it was hard and I left no illusions there. (YES YOU DID!! YOU SAID YOU WERE A WIDOWER!!) What hurts me is that it was harder for you than I thought, but at how cruel you were with your words to me, without even giving me a chance and then whether you realize it or not you endangered my life (WHY? DID YOUR WIFE FIND OUT?? ENDANGER? SPARE US ALL NATHAN!! YOU'RE DELUSIONAL) and a couple of other peoples. (WHO MIGHT THAT BE NATHAN? YOUR POOR WIFE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE SHE'S MARRIED TO A POSSIBLE PSYCHOPATH!) If I were honest with myself I would have seen this in the beginning when there was this trust issue with you concerning me. But, I thought hey she has had a bad time and it will be fine. (Oh it's HER with the trust issue? LOL!)

Then this latest thing came about and wow, I was right away cast into hell by you with your words and mot to mention real world things that you affected not knowing where your thoughts and actions would deal an almost fatal blow to people that had nothing to do with you, yet you placed their lives in danger and caused some children to almost be fatherless (O.K. Someone get this PSYCHOPATH a straightjacket!! He tells this SAME LIE to Victim #2 to make them feel bad for finding out -- He's DELUSIONAL!) All because of a non trusting heart and now I get this email which was passed to me and I said OK, I will fix this.

So, that address is no longer mine and has not been since a long time. I know you got automatic messages and in fact you were informed to not contact or write until after 15 March and I get this email which tells me what all you have been going through and that you were the last person and how other were thought more of than you. (WHAT THE H*LL DID HE SAY??? HUH? Word Salad!)

No one else got anything from me either as they all understood that I would not be available. They understood as well that when I said something there was a reason and to listen. (So many targets, so little time..... Did we mention he was dating Victim #2 at the SAME TIME. )

Without trust there is nothing. I cannot make you trust me, nor will I try to prove my innocence. (Don't bother - the truth can't be refuted!) I cannot have a woman that will not listen and take actions out of jealousy or hurt and think only of how they have been wronged and in the mean time put other people in danger.

I will not use the cruel words that you used as the things you said cut deep and they are not forgotten. I can push them back, but they will never be forgotten. (Your LIES will never be forgotten either!) I thought we were stronger than this and it hurt me to no end when you were talking about taking your life had it not been for your godmother. This is not right and no man or woman is worth this. I am not even worth that and it is a sin to do so. They say that absence makes the heart grow fonder, but a non trusting heart does dangerous things. You tortured yourself for nothing. I loved you then as I do now, but love is not always enough and I will not have it to cause danger to others either. (spare us, please)

We can email and if you want try to build things and mend what had been broken, but it will take time and I do not know what that time will bring. We will just have to see. (OMG! You want to get her to buy MORE of your lies?)

You know not everything that I do, but your actions have caused me to spend another portion of my life in a place I do not want to be. (audacious, isn't he? booo hoooo)

I am not bitter, I find no fault, it just happened and it is behind, and I have to move forward (and find fresh prey!) You tell me what you want and then we will discuss what to do. Right now I see that I cause you more pain than happiness and this is not good. I never meant bad by you!"

(They ALLLLLLL say "I never meant to hurt you." This is a lie straight from the Online Predator's Playbook. Cyberpaths see people as OBJECTS! They could care less!)

---- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----

From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Sent: April X, 2005
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
To: Target #1

AFTER TARGET #1 BUSTS HIM, THIS COWARD PRETENDS TO BE HIS OWN SON TO TELL HER OFF!! CAN'T EVEN 'FACE' HER IN EMAIL!!

"Today was a last straw! My son forwarded what all you did in the IM with him. (SON? She was IMing while YOU pretended to be your son!! Why would your SON sign is as YOU? LIAR) That was uncalled for, how could you do that? I thought you understood, but clearly you do not and you have harmed more people than you know. You have no idea what all you are destroying, but I guess to you it does not matter because you think you have found something and you are convinced that you are right. So be it!

I am beat and I cannot put up with this. You want a sorry to stop this torture, then I am sorry. (sounds like Dan Jacoby) Sorry that I trusted in you to hold things that you have let jealousy get in the way. (How INSINCERE!) The world is complicated, more complicated than you will ever know and I had no right to get involved with you because I should have seen it from the beginning. (You were right about that - you are MARRIED!) There were too many things that you would not understand and too many things that I could not talk about. But this is not trying to convince you that I am a good guy as you see me as bad. OK, I am bad, I am the scum of the Earth. There was never a thing to try an hurt you or lead you in any direction. So, if it will make you feel good then so be it I am all that you think I am either good or bad, now stop this! (NOTE: ALLLLL Cyberpaths when you BUST THEM tell YOU to go away - WHY? Because there's usually MORE going on, MORE targets, MORE sickness... and they are SCARED you will uncover the REST OF IT! Another GOOD REASON to EXPOSE this abuse! And wait until you find out what MORE this predator had going on!)

Sorry, that you feel you have been wronged! What you have been doing is only causing problems, but I cannot blame you for it, because it was my fault I should have seen it in the beginning. (Should have known she was smart & strong enough to FIGURE YOU OUT!) So, I am sorry for whatever pain you feel and there was never a time where hurt or bad was meant for you! But now you have made me see clearly this is over as there is no trust and even when you said it was you were not straight with me. (Thomas' is a Cyberpath-CLASSIC. He acknowledges her in ONE or TWO LINES then goes on & on & on about HIMSELF and HIS ANGER!! Remember Yidwithlid's "apology"? Narcissistic & Pathological.)

There was something in the back of my head saying that anyone who said what she had the first times meant all of it and this is proof. So, OK, you win! (Again Yidwithlid said something very similar when his Targets busted him - but ONLY to Target #1) Even though you believe that I am a liar, so be it! Lets stop the torture. (The only torture was the lines & lies you fed HER - YOU Nathan, are the emotional TERRORIST)

There was love at one time (you don't know what LOVE is, sir) , but the mean things that you said to me the first time crushed me (booo hooo) and this with my son was a last straw. He is a grown man, but now he thinks that I have done something wrong to a woman and who was this other person she was talking about?" (Can't even face her YOURSELF??? in INSTANT MESSENGER? Don't they all do this - the dust off either in an IM or EMAIL - like their victims are nothing Thomas is PATHETIC!)
~~~~~~~~~~~

Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found out.

Often, their behavior serves to confuse and repress their victims, or to influence anyone who might listen to the psychopath's side of the story.

Manipulation is the key to their conquests, and lying is one way they achieve this.

One almost amusing example of how psychopaths lie can be exemplified by a man who's footprint was discovered at the scene of the crime. "No, that's not my foot" he said, even though everyone knew he was lying.

This is how psychopaths operate. They will deny reality until their victims have a nervous breakdown. Often, the psychopath will turn on the victim and claim that the victim suffers from "delusions" and is not mentally stable.

The psychopath is primarily distracted and impressed by his own grandiose self-representation, which often leads to him unwittingly telling people things that lead to his detection. They often forget the lies they told and tell contradicting tales, which often makes the listener wonder if either the psychopath is crazy, although in this case the psychopath isn't really crazy -- he's just forgotten what lies he's told.

The most amazing thing, however, is their selective memory. A psychopath might not remember the promises he made to you yesterday, but he will remember something from the past if it suits his purposes in some way. They often do this whenever they're confronted or caught in a lie.

Most psychopaths are very arrogant and cocky. However, when charming a potential victim, they say all the "right" things and make you believe they are kind-hearted souls; not always, but often enough. The truth is, psychopaths are not altruistic and do not really care about friendships or ties.

A preview of things to come (Nathan however, doesn't change his M.O.):
Here's a letter Thomas wrote to Victim #2 AS IF HE WAS HIS OWN CO-WORKERS.

He was even STUPID enough to use Wife #1's (yes, Wife NUMBER ONE! More to come...) NAME (his first wife's name is GEORGINE) as his RETURN ADDRESS. How DUMB does he think everyone is?

From: Georgined@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: The Boss (Nathan's name for HIMSELF - LOL!)

Ma'am, I do not know what is going on and I am not trying to be disrespectful to my bosses wife, but whatever is happening is putting my boss through hell. (he got caught, boo hoo)

I write this as I know him and even though he does not talk about his personal life with us in a negative way we all know when things are going well and when they are not. It is not that our boss takes it out on us when things are going bad, or talks to us about the bad things. We see it in the way he acts.

We know that after his late passed, that for years he never really smiled and after he met you that he smiled and he was more human if that is the right word to say and there was life for him outside of work. (HIS LATE? He's got at least TWO VERY ALIVE wives and according to the above had another girlfriend! So come on - he smiled because he was GETTING AWAY WITH IT! What a perv!)

We all saw that as a good thing. Now we are starting to wonder because he is getting back like he was before and he is not smiling and yesterday he utterly destroyed his room. No one gets close to him and we all give him his space, but I am worried now. He is our leader and I am the second in command and I am the only one he will really let close to any doubts or inner feelings as it is with me as well. (The only thing he leads is "leading women on"!)

But you need to know that the men (what "MEN"??? The ones in his HEAD?) love him and look up to him. He has a devotion from them like I have never seen and I am jealous of it at times as I wish I had that kind of power. When things look as though it cannot be done and it is all over with, he can come in and make it right. I have seen it too many times. He has never once let us down and we know we are like his sons and we know he would give his very life for us is need be. We would do the same for him as well. (GAG)

Ma'am he does not know that I am writing this letter and I tell you he would surely have my ass for it and fire me even. For you see even more than me, he has a loyalty and we know he loves you as we have all seen it. You do not know it but you have seen us all in person, even though we have not met.

You seen some of us in France, Germany, Italy, and yes even in Nice. You have even talked to me and did not know it. (Oh so CLOAK AND DAGGER! James Bond! The Bourne Identity! Rambo! All complete fantasy B.S.!)

But that is fine as we did not want that you knew us. The boss, did not want to be in the photo when you were at that one place in Germany because there were some of us in that photo, but he has his reasons and he was on our ass later for it, even though I was not there I knew of it. When your passport was missing, we are the ones that found it for you and took care of the bad person who was going to do bad things with it. (Nathan probably took it, hid it and made up this little story just to screw with her head! Ohhhh "bad person" oooo - be afraid... Nathan will protect you! Really Mr. Thomas you are too much!)

Just to give you an idea about how we cover each other's back but more about how we cover our boss as we let no one harm him, as he is there for us, so are we there for him, even when he does not want it. So, you can share this with him and it will get me in trouble, but then it tell me the kind about who you are.

I am not asking you to keep secrets from him, but I am trying to let you know that you are hurting our boss and if you really love him you will not do things which will cause him pain. (remember Yidwithlid telling Target #2 "if you really love me you will leave me alone"? What complete HORSEPOCKY)

The little that I do know is that he was frustrated one time because he was trying to explain about money and how to actually make some as I gathered that you were not listening, or gave him negatives when he was trying to explain to him. I do not know and I am not here to point fingers, but I can tell you what I know. He has made each of us better off as he has a good mind for money and how to make it work and he has us all set for our future when we no longer work as none of us will need for a thing because we listened to him. (Back to the money thing - Victim #2 was taking care of him and he's now crying poor mouth because he knows she's LEGALLY ENTITLED to some compensation - more to come on that)

So, if the fight is over his giving you money advice, and you are not taking him up on it, then I am saying to you, you are missing an opportunity of a life time. He does not have to do what he does as he can be on Wll Street with those big guys as he is very knowledgeable on how to turn a dollar. (Yes, more CON MEN!)


Please do not worry him with things you can take care of. There are things which he does not need to know, if you can handle it. Examples are you running low on money for something and you know you can handle it, then do not even bring it up. You know you need something, then bring it up. But he is the kind of man when he sees something he wants to fix it and you cannot be thin skinned around him as he sees things with clear vision and to not listen you are heading right to where he said you would be. (GAG GAG)

Let there be no doubt in your mind that he is the kind of man that people are drawn to and they listen to him when he speaks. (He WISHES!!) He is not afraid to talk to anyone and I have seen him even when asked tell the President he was wrong as that is the kind of balls that he has. (Nathan's talked to the President? LOL! When - in his DREAMS? This guy needs a straight jacket!) I would never have done that nor would I have had the courage to do so.

He even got on the bad side of a Theater Commander for leaving us without protection and it could have ended his career, but he vowed to us that he would never ever while he had a breath in him let anything befall us, and he proves it time and again. (Remember this is NATHAN pretending to be someone else talking about NATHAN - unbelievable!)

So, whatever it is that is wrong, please fix it and make it right. We think you are good for him and we are not asking for you to kiss his ass, but to care for him in being very careful about what you are telling him as you need not worry him with things. We know you are a mother that was on your own and we know you had to struggle and we all know you had a bad time in a couple of areas. (WHAT THE ???)

We were going to help you out with a couple of them, but the Boss being who he is smelled it and stopped it and my ass was in a bind for a while after that. I have written all of this taking a chance and if I am to get in trouble because you tell the Boss, then I am going to put it all out in here so, if I am to get into trouble, then it will be because I wrote a lot and got it all out.

Not asking you to not be loyal to him, but to help us protect him and keep him safe and not have to worry about things. (please don't expose him for the lying predator he is!) He was happy the last time he was home as I guess it was the first time where he was not at the hotel and had a home to go to. (oh so he can get free food, free sex, free room & board, free laundry, free transportation -- in so many different places with so many girlfriends - and btw, WHICH HOME do you mean? LOL)

Do not get me wrong here either, he is hard to take at times, but I have learned the hard way and I hate to admit it that he is 98% of the time right on the money with how he sees things. He will make you look at things that you may have never looked at before. He has this ability and it is unnerving that he can look into a person's eyes and in seconds put a make on their character. If you ever lie to him as I have one time and I will never do it again. He waited until a year later to tell me and he almost fired me. He ripped me a new ass hole, sorry but I just cannot put it another way. (Nathan, you're talking too much - a complete giveaway that this is nothing but the ramblings of a lying LOON!)

So, I have to be honest even when I do not want to be. So, I am doing this for my Boss as I know he seen something in you, and so I have to trust that as he would not be with you otherwise. This is not to make you feel bad as he has had the opportunity to have any woman hs wants and it is something that women are drawn to in him not even knowing what walk of life he is from, and I guess whatever it is is the same thing you saw, or see in him.

I do know he is 100% totally dedicated to you and you consume his every spare moment (unless he's with other women, conning people, checking his accounts on Mate1, AdultFriendFinder, PenPalWorld, InterRacialDating, Match.com, OKCupid, True, InterRacialVillage, YahooPersonals, PlentyofFish, IvoryandEbonyLove... etc. -- so many accounts to keep checking for fresh meat, huh? -- or surfing and posting porn) as I have seen him go without sleep, just ot be on with you for a few minutes and I know when he has not gotten an email from you or chatted as he is grumpier that a grizzly bear as is his name. (We are really getting ILL here - DELUSIONAL!)

Whatever it is please make it right and know that he loves you and splitting up is not the answer, but work with him and I am sure he will build a future for you both with love and not a care in the world will you have. The last thing is, and no one knows this and the Boss does not even know that I know, but Ma'am he is not healthy and he has a lot of internal problems. He has been told to rest but he will not. I know as our physician is concerned and has told me that our Boss told him he would have him sent to some remote location if he told anyone anything, but he has also been with my boss and he knows him. ::cough::

So he needs rest, physical as well as mental. He never lets his mind rest (because he's a manic pathological and sex addict as well) and he is doing for others before he will take time for himself and we are all concerned that he will not be with us for long. we are all quitting our current jobs to go under his compay and this is something none of us would do for anyone else, but he is our leaser and there will never be anyone else that will take his place. We are loyal to the man and I am hoping that you have the same loyalty as well. (PLEEEZZZZEEE DON'T TELL!! PPLLEEEEZZEE)

Mr. Thomas you are so busted.

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. - Some Lures of this Predator of the Month

Please note the infantile and very FAKE email we and one of Thomas' victims received this morning "warning us." (HINT: It's from Thomas) As always, our comments are in dark blue.

From: legalEagleServic@aol.com
To: cyberpaths@gmail.com
Cc: Victim #2
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:15 AM

Hello,

This email is so that there are no secrets as to what is going on and also to straighten out a couple of legal issues.*

1. The person you are getting your information from is not being 100% straight forward with you. I hope that you advised her that what you write is based partly upon her information and that during legal proceedings she will be held liable for all false information? (Apparently, sir - you can't read our legal disclaimers - clearly posted at the right)

2. Your client has been informed three times that she is not to be writing emails to the address you see below and that once informed and she continues this is called stalking and she can be charged with it as well. (she isn't our CLIENT - she's a member of our support group. You need to write law enforcement where she lives and turn yourself in, because she's THEIR client. And-- Information gathering is not stalking. I am sure the Constable in charge of her case will make that clear to you. You simply have a problem with reality and the truth, sir.)

3. To use the word extort is rather strong and has to be proven, but I think we have enough evidence in hand now to prove this. Did your victim inform you of how much money she received over the course of two years and how much she reported? Here are some examples:

a. There are bank statements which will show she was receiving large sums of money through Paypal. This ws based on the fact that according to her, her x-husband was not pay child support and she owed back taxes on child support she has received before. She was not able to pay her rent, buy groceries, or pay for her [child]'s hockey. (so she was vulnerable, predators like vulnerable women)

b. She had a car before that was so bad until it was draining her and all repairs were taken care of. Then she was bought a new car. Her credit was so bad until $5000 had to be put down in order to lease a car. Her insurance was paid in full for two years in a row.

c. There were ATM withdrawals in her town which were used to buy groceries and other items as requested by your client.

4. The above are just starters. There is email traffic which will also prove that she is not the victim, but was always receiving money because of her situation. She was on various dating sites with her photo and it seems as though she was selective in who she chose and it was always men with money. (So you prey on women via dating sites? Thanks for letting us know - though we figured that out. We are aware of everything you said above and if you are seeking to cast aspersions on your SECOND victim as some money grubbing floozy - guess what. It didn't work. Considering what you did and took from her - no compensation would be enough.)

5. This Paula person and her are now working together. Emails can be manipulated and this Paula person has an agenda as well and it is assumed this is a fictitious name being used. (we have known Paula for years. she is a good and trusted member who has helped out EOPC on many occasions. Readers - notice how they ALWAYS try to smear the character of the GOOD PEOPLE they prey on?)

6. I believe that you will find there have been no attacks made in print or any other way against your client. The reason was there is her youngest [child] who loves her mother and there was nothing negative put out in order not to hurt her. However, now it seems that this has to take second seat as your client has hurt others and it is time that this stops. (like who? you? by telling the truth about your lies, predation and using women for your own sick fun? What about your WIFE, sir?)

7. Once there was no more money to be shelled out, then she started her attacks and we think it was in the hopes of getting her victim to shell out money to her to keep her quiet.

Were there some mistakes made by her victim? Yes there were, and he will face those, but he is not this monster that has been painted. There are a long list of people who have been attacked verbally by your client on the phone as well as via emails. (You are no one's victim, sir - you are a PREDATOR, an apparently delusional liar from what we've read and... probably a psychopath)

There will be no follow on emails to this one and this is the first and last contact. Please inform your client that it is in her best interest to hold what she has and bring it out in whatever legal proceedings that are to follow. (good. again, read the disclaimers on the right.)

* The above email is not to be seen as a legal position, or as a legal representation of any specific person. This email is not to harass, nor be sent in order to harass, but is for informational use to bring some issues to light. (or twist reality and try to scare us. LOL. Busted!)

How do we know it's fake?
1. wording - very unprofessional, especially the caveat at the bottom - and no type of 'proof of service attachment.'
2. NO legal service would send something like this without a return snail mail (even a P.O. Box) and their listed phone number
3. this "legal service" failed to list their license number and what state or territory they are licensed in so we could check.
4. no "legal service" would send something out without a real person's name attached. Even if it's just the office manager - in case someone needed to speak to them.

Thomas is probably very upset we are re-running this and he knows his second Victim's story is coming. Perhaps he has others on the hook and this is damaging his "rap" of being CIA and a 'very important man.' LOL.

Mr. Thomas - you & all our exposed cyberpaths try the most ludicrous and infantile scare tactics on us. It never works. What you should do is turn yourself in to the local DA because you know what's coming - as we do with your story... and you know YOU are in legal trouble in many ways.

And thanks for leaving your traceable IP behind: 64.12.116.209
We also took note you surfed onto this link which we have posted at the right. Are you trying to compose a better bogus letter to "scare us" now that we told you what's wrong with the first one? Please stop before you look more foolish. It's been tried before, many many times.

BTW - your fake email isn't harassment... it's a threat. And a joke.
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:25:14 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: What a chat we had!!
To: Nathan's Target #1

##, I hope to be on around 15:30 your time, but I do not know for how long. I am just getting up and I do not know what the day holds. I hope to have enough time that I can send you more photos, but if I do not have the time, I know that I will be getting them to you. This time I have been keeping track so that I know what you have.

##, I do not want you placing to much on the time when I am supposed to come in case something goes wrong and I cannot come. It is a date we plan for, but this time we need to make sure we are not sad if it does not happen and look for the positive side. I think you will be off for that month or for two weeks or something like that. (So many targets... uh, women -- so little time huh, Nathan?) If that week does not happen then I will work it for one of the other days that you are on leave. I am saying all of this as there are just too many things that can happen between now and then. Three months ahead of time can have me almost anywhere, but my planning will be to come there. I can say safely that if nothing has changed two weeks before our date that we will be OK. Let's see what happens. (Wow!! Nathan has mastered the WORD SALAD!! Can he please speak PLAIN ENGLISH?? Well considering that poorly written B.S. you tried to send us - the syntax is exactly the same. Again, sir - you're BUSTED)

I also had a wonderful time chatting with you. we covered a lot of areas and I think I learned a lot more about you. Maybe you learned a little more about me, I do not know. (Gee he hopes NOT!!!) Anyway I have to run, so I will be seeing you Cutie! (so many women to remember anyone's name, huh? Ed Hicks did this too.)
Hugs and a nice wet kiss. (blech!)
T

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Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:31:57 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: OK That's All for Now
To: Nathan's Target #1

Hey Cutie,
That is all that I am going to send you for now just in case you get other mail and I do not want to lock up your system. (or mine, he has SOOOOO many women to write he forgot to use your name. Maybe he sent this SAME message to all the women on his email list!) If you come in and check this on the weekend well I want to wish you a nice weekend. Hey be sweet and I am giving you soft kisses on your forehead and a gentle hug to let you know I am with you. (and you... and you.... and you.... and his wife, maybe)

T

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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 18:02:10 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi T
To: Nathan's Target #1

Hey lady! It is too late with the chocolate thing. I ate a lot of chocolate, but not the candy. I had ice cream with chocolate and almonds. It was good. I did not make it to Switzerland, but I was up in the mountains in Germany and Austria wandering around. Nature is so wonderful. She is beautiful, but at the same time you have to give her respect for she can turn very ugly if you take her for granted. (Nathan, so can women you play & use!! and you deserve it too!) The weather was very cool high up but in the shade.

Me and the guys (what guys? the voices in your head? the military and CIA know nothing about you other than you're retired) walked up to a point where there was a little restaurant and ate and it was about 21:30 when we headed back down. Just walked through the door and checked the mail and saw that you were on and sent me mail. That was a nice surprise. I am now getting ready to take a shower and then in the morning I am going to work for a couple of hours. after which I am going to go mountain biking. I have to lose a couple of more pounds before it is winter again :)

Take care and I hope you have a nice peaceful weekend. I did not remember you saying that you were going to work today, or should I say yesterday while it is after midnight here now.

maybe I will dream about you tonight :) (or any of the many many women I am toying with)

T
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:32:19 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: I will not Be On for Long
To: Nathan's Target #1

###, it is 17:34 your time and I do not know if I will be able to be on when you come to the Internet. I am going to have to go to the airport and pick up a couple of my people that will be coming in earlier than first expected. (girlfriends? wives?)

This is another reason why I do not like to sat that I will be on at a certain time especially if I know you make a special trip just for me. (because if I get surprised by one of my targets I want to still be able to lie to you!!) I hope that I get to catch yo online before I have to sign off, but in case I am not here, then you know I had to leave.
******

Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:20:23 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: When will you come bacK?
To: Nathan's Target #1

###, I am on for a couple of minutes to write you this email. When you called me, I was just getting ready to get on the helicopter (HELICOPTER? or is there a propeller on your head?) , so I could not talk, I am sure you should have heard the motors winding up. I will be gone for a few days, but I should be able to contact you during the week next week if not this Sunday. I cannot say for sure but I will send you emails in any event. (if my wife/ girlfriend of the moment lets me use the computer)

Be sweet!

T

This gets better - we will continue posting so come and read daily. MORE to come!

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr.: More blather from Predator of the Month!

As always our comments/ opinions are in dark blue.


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:32:17 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm thinking of you too!
To: Target #1

###, if your father is coming to see you and you say no because he is bringing his wife then this may hurt him. So, if it were me I would allow it. Just because your mother did not treat you as she should have, I say do not hold anything against her. You are alive and you have your Godmother, who it seems loves you as you love her. Your mother has not done anything bad to you she just was not there when you felt she should have been.

Be nice a civil as you would to your associates and do not be mean to her. If you love your father then make it nice where he is not divided between the love for his daughter and the possible love of his wife. You are loved, so no matter what she says or does you know that you are loved by others. Do not let her get you upset or hate her. If you know yourself and you know that you are loved by others then forgive her and move on with your life. You know God forgives us many times when we have let Him down. (YOU BETTER HOPE SO, Nathan!! - Note the RELIGIOUS Posturing like Jacoby, Yidwithlid & Darden) So, is it not possible to forgive as He would have?

Also, it says to honor your mother and father. Show her how a real daughter is and the meaner she is the nicer you are. One day, she may need you when everyone else has turned their backs on them. One day she will wake up and realize what a mistake she has made and will ask that you forgive her. (Note how he doesn't GET IT about abusive parents like alone abusive people! oh wait, he's a psychopath.... no soul so nothing to worry about there)

(The owners of this site see this sort of MORAL & ETHICAL pontificating from Cyberpaths ALL THE TIME. As if YOU need them to tell you how to think or behave. It is sickening really. These predators take the moral high ground while playing people, screwing around and hurting their families, others and themselves. Moral & Ethical Snobbery should be added to the RED FLAGS of these jerks - Fighter)

T

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:36:47 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where are you?
To: Target #1

### I am spending quite a few hours with things (other women, filing all my communication with foreign ladies so I can read & enjoy & laugh later?) and will not have too much time for a little while. No, I am not angry at you and when I am angry at you, you will not have to ask because you will know it. I will tell you when I am angry at you. You do not have to doubt that. Like I said before, do not be such a worrying person. (please don't - you might figure me out!!)

We have been lucky that I have been able to keep in touch (while he's off romancing other women AND his WIFE!), but there may come times when you may not hear from me for a while. If that happens rest assured that if something were to happen to me you would be contacted on your telephone to let you know. I have put you down as one of the people to contact. (Oh puhleeze!!)
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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 10:41:31 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Only a few Minutes
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!
I only have a couple of minutes to be on-line and then I have to go. I will wait around as long as I can on-line and then I have to go. You may not hear from me for maybe two or three weeks. (going somewhere with the wife? other girlfriends? or just creating desire? see #9 of this article) There is nothing to worry about, but unfortunately I will not be available to chat on-line as we normally do. we have been lucky up to this point as I have not been gone for so long without contact since we have met. Well, here is the first time.

So, that should not stop you from writing to my email address, so wen I have a chance to read when I return to the area I will know what you were thinking about and how you were coping day to day with everything. (sucking her brain & emotions dry even when not around!! he's such an IMPORTANT ::cough:: man... LOL)

I will write to you again when I am leaving the line.

Miss you Cutie!

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:59:31 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm here!
To: Target #1

###, I did not think anything other than the net must have gone down. I waited and I sent you and email and after a bit I had to go anyway. So, I have enough sense to know that something went down and I was not worried. (predators NEVER worry.... they just move on to the next Target. Besides, they don't care what you think & feel) I got your message on the phone and I understood. But thank you anyway. You do not have to worry, I am not a thin skinned person (sociopath) and I do not think bad unless you do something wrong and you have always been good to me from the very start and I think you have a good soul (she does, YOU DON'T) , so I do not worry.

T

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:18:51 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hey T, how could you think that?
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!

I am here for a little bit. I will stay on as long as I can and if you happen to be on then great. Run off with a young female :) What do you call young and then I can make sure it is not a young female :) (FREUDIAN SLIPPAGE!!) Oh, I have to get off for a couple of seconds, but I will be back in about a minute. (pardon me while I work someone else into a lather on chat)

T

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:12:05 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Tried Calling No Luck!
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!
I tried calling you with no luck. There was a problem getting through and either something was up from your phone or country. I did not know what it was saying, but I think I did not get through to your handy. Also, when I tried through another means through my operator then I got an international voice that said there were no open lines at this time. So after a half hour I gave up because I had some work to do. (Did he even REALLY try?....)

Now I have finished what I needed to do got back to my computer and sending you this email to let you know I tried. I think though that you are all ready where ever it was you said you were going and have not checked the emails that I have sent to you so far. Well, keep safe and be good :).

I tell you it is hot here, I was in Munich and took a couple of photos, so you could see what the area looked like. There were too many people walking around, so i stopped this old British couple that were touring to take my photo. why an old couple, so I would not have to worry about chasing them trying to get my camera back :) Nothing worse than asking some young person to take your photo and it turns into a running match seeing who is the fastest. since I am not the spring chicken I used to be, I elected to pick someone older than me that i knew I would be able to out run :). So, the camera is in the car and the next time I email you, I will attach the photos. (the pictures.... see #16 here) If this mail gets too full before you get back, then I will write to your other address. I think between the two I should have enough room to write to you and send you a couple of photos.

Now don't you feel bad that you have missed me all of this time? Hey, I am only messing with you, (stick to MESSING.... that's HONEST!) in other words I am teasing you, so do not go getting all serious on me now. Just Teasing :). Well, as you can see, I have no trouble finding things to talk about on email. OK, be sweet and I will be chatting with you!

T

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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:13:09 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: My dear friend!!
To: Target #1

I hope that none of my mails offended you in anyway, or have you thinking bad about me, but I wrote what I was feeling at the time.
T

(ANOTHER CLASSIC PREDATOR EMAIL!!! They ALLLLLLLL do this. Step out of line and then reel you back in with a pat apology. They actually give you an honest peek at their dark soul and then realize OOPS?)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:17:35 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm here!!!!!!!
To: Target #1

###, I see that you've written a lot of emails and I am surprised and excite to get to the other mails to find out what all you are talking about. Well, I know about the people on the street begging as you remember there was this one woman for sure. (Nathan's just SO happy he has this poor Target wound in his web of deceit)

I have quite of bit of work as I have just now had a break, but I do not get the chance to take the rest of the day off. I am going to take a shower and then I have to go in. When we meet next time I will discuss how busy work is, but not the whole time because you would get bored. What days of vacation that I have I will try to spend around you except to visit my kids, Mom, and brothers and sisters for a couple of days. Next year, my plan is to organize a little trip to Spain for a week and we spend it there or in your country. We will talk about that the next time when I meet. I think though, it would be good to get you out of that area and into other parts of (women) Europe, maybe where neither one of us understand the language, we will see. (if he can play this game longer.... )

T

MORE TO COME AND YET ANOTHER TARGET'S STORY AS THIS MONTH GOES ON!

'Digital Evidence Doesn't Lie'

Use of technology by abusers, stalkers offers more ways to control victims, but also for police to stop them
by Kathryn Gregory

Just a few years ago, police and domestic violence workers didn't spend much time thinking about the ways technology could be used against women in abusive and controlling relationships.

Now, cyberstalking is a harsh reality for those women, but the technology that makes it possible also can make it easier to catch stalkers in the act.

Stalking through technology "really shows the length a batterer will go to, to gain control of their victim," said Angie Rosser, communications coordinator for the West Virginia Coalition Against Domestic Violence. "It's a whole new level of harassing and abusing a victim."

Installing global positioning satellite devices into vehicles, using spyware programs that can read every keystroke on a computer or befriending their partners' co-workers or friends online to check up on their behavior are just some of the ways predators work to control their victims.

"It's hard to say if technology makes it easier for offenders to gain control over their victims," said Cindy Southworth, technology project director for the National Network to End Domestic Violence. "Abusers will misuse every tool they can to abuse their victims, technology or not."

When stalkers use technology to control someone, though, they leave a witness, Southworth said.

Most domestic violence and sexual abuse happens with no witnesses, but "when someone uses technology, it creates digital evidence," she said. "Digital evidence doesn't lie."

When victims press charges against a stalker or controlling spouse, having digital evidence, such as hidden spyware programs on their home computers or GPS locators in their phones placed there by the offender can help law enforcement.

"I always tell cops to be creative about what they charge people with," Southworth said. "If they are doing a dastardly thing, there will always be a law on the books. It might not fit one law specifically, but it can definitely fit another."

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

BEWARE: THE DANGERS OF ONLINE DATING

Beware Physical, Financial Dangers of I-Dating

Some look for love but find scams and threats

For many of the millions of Americans who have tried online dating, it is an exciting new way to look for the partner of their dreams. But there are potential physical and financial dangers lurking, too.

Cat Hermansen said her experience with online dating took a terrifying turn when she invited a man she met online to pick her up at home for their first date.

"I told him to have a seat on the couch and I sat down beside him," Hermansen said.

"And he pushed me back... and started pawing at me and everything, and what he didn't know is that I could reach down and I pulled my gun out and I put it in his face right between his eyes."

Hermansen said she feels she would have been raped if she didn't have her gun.

"He jumped up and ran out the door - didn't even say bye."

Millions Look for Love Online, and Many Find It
The latest research finds more than 1,000 dating sites on the Web, and nearly 9 million Americans say they subscribed to dating Web sites during the last year, according to analysts at Jupiter Research.

A few, such as True.com, try to do background checks on subscribers, but most do not. (THERE IS NO NATIONAL MARRIAGE DATABASE OR REAL WAY TO CHECK ON WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON DATING PROFILES! No matter WHAT they or the dating site tells you!)

True.com is lobbying state legislatures for laws requiring background checks or at least clear warnings that users are on their own. But some executives of other dating sites say meeting people the old fashioned way isn't any less risky.

Roses and Champagne for a Scam Artist
But experts warn online daters to look out for their financial as well as physical safety when using the sites.

After signing up for Yahoo.com's dating service, Julia Abrantes received an e-mail from a potential suitor telling her, "I can promise you my everlasting devotion, my loyalty and my respect for a lifetime." The man told Abrantes he was working in Nigeria and eventually asked to borrow money so he could wrap up his business and fly to the United States to be with her.

"I had roses in every room, a bottle of champagne in the fridge," Abrantes said. She waited for hours at the airport, but the man never showed up. "I got in a cab, and I came home and sobbed hysterically," Abrantes said.

When Abrantes started investigating the incident online, she discovered the discussion group Romance Scams. Founder Barb Sluppick says 243 members who responded to a survey said they had lost a total of $2.2 million - about $9,000 a piece.

Abrantes reported her scammer to Yahoo, and the company removed his profile. But when ABC News asked her to check for the man's profile again, she found the same Web site and the same pictures.

The pictures used by the scam artist were actually of a model in Hawaii who had been swiped from the model agency's Web site, Abrantes learned.

Yahoo personals said it acts aggressively when customers report scams. When Abrantes complained for a second time, Yahoo again removed the profile.

"We take offering the best online dating experience very seriously and we … provide a safe and secure environment for singles," Yahoo said in a written statement.

Play It Safe
Experts say that people who choose to date online should use caution:

Plan first dates in public places.

Make sure friends know when and where you're going on a date and arrange to call and check in at the end of the date.

Get a disposable cell phone to use specifically for online dating. If a suitor starts to harass you, you can ditch the phone and get another.

Ask a lot of detailed questions. Con artists won't have easy answers and will likely drop out of your life. Do a BACKGROUND CHECK and surf the net for their name, nickname and email address(es) and read ALL the pages!

If they tell you, don't speak to "so & so" she's/ he's "obsessed with me, stalking me, scorned, rejected, a wacko", etc. -- MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS TO SPEAK TO THAT VERY PERSON ASAP.

Never send money to somebody you meet online. If someone asks for money, it's time to end the relationship.

Don't forward checks or packages to people you meet online. Scammers may be trying to lure you into laundering bogus checks or stolen merchandise.

ABC News' Elisabeth Leamy and Allen Levine reported this story for "Good Morning America."

Facebook = Breeding Ground for Harassment

by Saffron Howden

Cyberbullying a major problem.

POLICE are investigating allegations a Northern Rivers mother has been harassed, stalked and bullied on the social networking site, Facebook.

The accusations coincide with the release of a new a report into cyberbullying, which found that social networking sites were the most common online vehicle for bullying - ahead of chat rooms and email.

The woman, from just outside Lismore, has become so distressed by the experience, she is considering taking her children and leaving.

She told The Northern Star she was approached in December through Facebook by someone using a pseudonym.

They tried to ingratiate themselves with her by sharing information they knew would interest her.

When she became suspicious, it turned nasty.

The woman blocked the person as a friend on her Facebook profile, but they had already identified all the people listed as her friends on the site and began sending messages to them.

“They said: 'I'm closer than you think' and 'I'm watching you'.

“Quite serious stuff, like everybody hates me and I should kill myself.”

She formally reported the matter to police on Friday.

The experience has been upsetting for her and her young children, she said.

“Facebook is going to be a huge vehicle for bullying and stalking because of the anonymity they've got and they can do this bullying on a massive scale,” she said.

“It needs to be made fairly clear, as far as policing goes, that it's not appropriate behaviour,” she said.

If the perpetrator was positively identified, she said she may be able to take out an apprehended violence order (AVO) against them.

Richmond Crime Commander Inspector Steve Clarke said it was difficult for police to take action in bullying cases, online or otherwise, until the actions constituted criminal behaviour.

“Bullying itself is not an offence,” he said.

“It's something that we're aware of.

“A lot of the service providers would have some sort of system in place that would allow you to change your contact details,” he advised.

NSW Youth Minister Graham West yesterday released a report by the state Youth Advisory Council which found that cyberbullying could be more damaging than face-to-face bullying.

“The fact that the insults, comments or footage can be preserved either by the person who was bullied or others means that the target may read or view them repeatedly, re-inflicting harm with each reading or viewing,” the report said.

It also found that the anonymity of cyberspace may embolden young people to bully where they may not have otherwise.

It recommended the government educate people about the issues and impacts, target existing services to deal with cyberbullying, and work with Internet service providers to create a central body for processing complaints.

“I don't know what drives bullies to do what they do, or how we can help defeat them but I do know one thing, we MUST do something to stop them and we MUST do it now!!”

“I've had all kinds of things - from text messages and abusive calls (which were private calls and so therefore could not be tracked) all the way to emails, comments, and other such basic bullying tactics … a friend from school … pretending to be me in several instances.”

“Over the course of three years one girl has fueled the cyberbullying against me by writing defamatory blogs about my fiance and me… and by convincing her friends to send not only myself, but my other friend rude comments. There have been threats against me.”

ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. - Check the WORD SALAD

More examples of LOVE BOMBING & WORD SALAD from Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. (EOPC's opinions & commentary are in dark blue)

---- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:00:40 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I have Internet available!!!
To: Target #1

###, I am here for right now. I checked Hotmail and I have it open in case you come on. I cannot say about 16 September as I think I have something to do on 18-19 September 2002. I will see what can be arranged. Whatever dates they are I know that at least two of the days will be on a weekend. I am trying for 4 days and will see how that goes.

Next year, I am working on a week that we can go somewhere that will be new for both of us and we can explore together, I do not know and I am just talking right now. There are so many things going on and I cannot promise a certain date. (So many women so little time??)

No, I am working, but not at the moment because I am writing to you :) I hope I get a chance to see you today and if not then I will catch you next time around. Just in case I want to wish you a nice weekend and do not be flirting with those guys on the beach :) I think I need to be by your side so I can look at them all mean :) (oh SPARE US ALL!!)

I think I will be in the office this weekend, because I have so much to do and there is not enough time during the week. That is not a bad thing as it keeps me out of trouble right :) (if you have a computer, you CAN'T stay out of trouble)

Hugs and kisses to you also!

T
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:47:20 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, I missed you!
To: Target #1

Cutie! (USE SOMEONE'S REAL NAME!)

That was so sweet. I could feel the emotions. Do you feel like that? (This guy just LOVES when women are CLAMORING for him & his attention!! Mind-twisting them!!) It is a very beautiful poem. I just got back and I saw that I have two emails from you. Yes, I saw the message and it said you did not have Internet and that you would get with me on Thursday. I do not know what time I will be back as I know I will be up before you and out in the world before you awake.

Thanks again for the poem, if you were here you would get a nice hug from me to let you know how wonderful I thought it was.

T
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:10:05 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Take it easy..
To: Target #1

###, here are a few words of wisdom: I think you will see the logic behind it all.
T

Everything I need to know about life, I learned from Noah's Ark...
One: Don't miss the boat.
Two: Remember that we are all in the same boat.
Three: Plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark.
Four: Stay fit. When you're 600 years old, someone may ask you to do something really big.
Five: Don't listen to critics; just get on with the job that needs to be done.
Six: Build your future on high ground.
Seven: For safety's sake, travel in pairs.
Eight: Speed isn't always an advantage. The snails were on board with the cheetahs.
Nine: When you're stressed, float a while.
Ten: Remember, the Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.
Eleven: No matter the storm, when you are with God, there's always a rainbow waiting.

(Wonder how many of this targets Nathan sent this to? And coming from him, this tripe is really sickening)

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:56:41 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I have to go!
To: Target #1

###, now I think you know I will not forget about you. You know it was on a movie once where I guy told another one a story. There was the young guy looking at the older guy that had a very young girl friend. The younger guy could not understand how and what the younger woman seen in this older man. The older man replied that when you have a bird leave the bird cage door open, if the bird flies out and never comes back, it was never yours to begin with. The old man says he leaves the cage door open and the bird always comes back. What does it mean? I sense that sometimes you worry about me and other women and this maybe my ego talking but I do not think so. (LIAR!! She was listening to the BAD GUT FEELINGS you were giving her!! )

I am hopping that I am thinking wrong. Relax and have confidence in what we have. (Relax? You are LYING to her & USING her!!)

If I were going away on a vacation or a trip I would say it like I have in the past when I would go away for the weekend, if possible. This is work and you know I would not and could not forget you. (SAY WHAT? Can you just speak plainly, and tell the truth while you're at it?)

We have a friendship that has a great distance between us and I know it makes it a strain at times, but then it means that the moments that we do have together chatting or even when we may be able to meet, they will be special and hold many sweet moments in our short time on this large planet. So, we have met aand we are joined in mind, so relax and enjoy, not worry so much that you rip apart the cords that are binding us. (Notice how he plants evil seeds in her mind: "binding us," "joined in mind," "relax" - this is MIND CONTROL!! Straight from books on picking up women!)

To be my friend you have to be strong because if you are not you will not make it because the life I live will rip at you apart with worry. (When she finds the truth - she will be more ripped apart than you can imagine Nathan... since you have NO SOUL and NO EMPATHY. )

Leave my cage door open and I think you will find that this bird will always come back to you (when I am done with everyone else) and be eating out of your hands and singing to you at night :) Then you may say it is not a bird, but a bear.

Also, if there is any chance that I will be able to contact you, I will, like now. So, give me a smile, a nice wet kiss, and look out at the sun and know that I will be seeing it and more than likely sweating in it wanting so much to be in a nice office some place rather than where I will be at, at the time :)

T
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THIS WAS YET ANOTHER BIG LIE. He still used that phone for some months after he sent this e-mail. He was merely going on vacation.

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:04:11 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: I have to go!
To: Target #1

Hello ###, I came on about an hour after you left. I am sorry that I missed you. I think for a while it will be hard to get hold of one another. (WHAT'S THE REAL REASON!?)

Starting on 5 August to 19 August I maybe hard to reach. We are doing some major changes and I will have to move all of my equipment. On 10 August, I will no longer be using this current phone, as it will be turned over to someone else. I will contact you as soon as I can with my new number.

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:45:31 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: You're so right!
To: Target #1

###, you do not have to thank me. We are and that is enough. We are to each other what needs to be filled and I think this is good. You are a sweet woman. That is very good that you took time out with the lady and her dog and I think it good to visit as I am sure she enjoys that very much.

I do not understand why you should live in fear of your husband. You are a free woman and if he tried anything just put him in jail. Do not mess around and do not sneak around, for what?

You are your own woman. (HELLO, Nathan - YOU ARE MARRIED - this statement from you is absolutely SICK!!)

T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:39:22 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi dear friend!
To: Target #1

###, I just got back and getting ready to go to bed. I will get up early in the morning and get on another plane. I should be back Sunday evening if everything goes well.

Vacation, I said I was going to spend with you. Yes, when I see my kids, it will be in the States. I do not have the time just yet. to fly that distance I will need time. Maybe I am lucky and can make it for Christmas.

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:18:35 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)
To: Target #1

###, you wrote:

I understand perfectly well you don't have to give details of your job. Also, the places where you go and all those things. I understand I don't have to know. What I told you was that you don't need to tell me you are on a place when you are on another. Did I made myself clear? (Nathan, you couldn't be clear if your life depended on it! - Readers: do your cyberfriends speak in this backwards, confusion, all over the place way? RUN IF THEY DO!! Of course Nathan picked on a foreign woman who simply questioned their understanding of English)

###, I understood perfectly well what you were saying, and I said I was exactly where I told you I was and doing exactly what I said I was doing at the time. You were saying that you did not believe I was on the plane because you said handies cannot be used and you heard music. I understand all of that. I informed you that phones can have numbers transferred and there are other things that technology can do. That is all I am saying on the matter. If I had no trust of you, you would not know all that you do now about me. In somethings you know more than my children. But, there are many things that we can talk about rather than work.

You see really if I have to work it is not important where I go, just whether it is for work or private. Read my letter again, I cannot say it any other way. There is no malice I just say what I have to say and then that is it. You have my friendship. I deal with things a little different I say what I have to say and then I move on. You said exactly what I thought and I did not get it wrong. You thought I was not on the plane when I told you that I was. I am telling you that you were wrong aand it was not what you think. You were to think what anyone that did not know was to think if they called that number. (LIAR - she busted you and you are making her question what she is beginning to understand - that you are a PLAYER!!)

So, I am through with that subject and to dwell on it will only get me upset for real aand I am sure it will not make you feel any better. So, if after all of that you still think you are right I am not going to try to change your mind. I say OK you have a right to your opinion, so lets move on. (Let's NOT - let's get you to TELL THE TRUTH!)

There is no need to have a heavy heart, no need to think too deep, and no need to think I am upset with you. I respect your thoughts and you have a right to them. I tell you what I know about what you think and you can accept or reject what I am saying. That is your right.

So, you are still my Cutie and we can move on now, I hope.

T
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ANOTHER HUGE LIE!:

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:56:38 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: As I look out too!
To: Target #1

###, I am waiting on a flight right now and I hope to be out of here soon. I am in a lounge away from everyone else and that is good. The lounge is full of foreigners it seems on business trips around here. (He was going NOWHERE! except in his daydreams)

My children are fine and they all send me mail. Yes, my daughter is in Texas. she is going to try to leave there is a year and come to Germany. That way I can visit and see my grandchildren more too. I like that and hope that I will not have to travel as much as I am right now.

Do you like the graphics that I put in the emails to you too? I arrange them and hope that they will catch your eye and have some meaning. (HUH? Nathan you get more strange all the time! graphical messages?)

OK, until later Cutie!

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 07:09:34 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: How Are You Doing?
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!
I hope all is going well with you. I am doing fine and I should be done here maybe around Tuesday. Hey you never told me did you drink the wine with your GodMother? Did you like it or not? If you did not like it I want that you tell me, not that I would get more and you really would not care for the taste. I understand as I am sure there will be things that one likes and the other does not in wine and food.

OK, just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that I was thinking about you and hoping that you have a nice relaxing day.

My, it is so humid here I am sweating so much, but the good side is that I have had more garlic dishes than I have had in a long time. (The target is the one who needs the garlic for this EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE)

Be sweet and I will be chatting with you!

T

(NOTICE HOW CRYPTIC THIS PREDATOR IS!! NOTICE THE DOUBLE SPEAK!! What about yours?)

Does Nathan E.B. Thomas, Jr. Know ANYTHING About Reality??

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:56:47 EST
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Do Not Know How Long I am Here!
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie! (do Cyberpaths EVER use real names? Or are there just so many that they forget!)

I do not know how long I am here, but I just wanted to let you know that I am OK and everything is fine.

I was going to wait, but I thought I would tell you now. I had a DVD set of CSI (Crime Scene Investigations). This is something if you remember I had asked you had you ever seen the films and that it covered things about crime scenes and how they did their investigations to catch the criminals. Well, I had it and I thought why not give the films to you as I think you would really enjoy them, or start laughing saying there is no way that can happen :). Oh, it will be 17 hours of crime stuff. That should keep you out of trouble. (Maybe she can figure YOU out, Sir. And btw, SHE isn't the one who needs to keep out of trouble)

Love,

T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:13:52 EST
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: I will Be in and Out!
To: Target #1

Cutie, I will be in and out, so you and I may miss each other. I will try to be back in an hour to check and see if I received any message from you. (or any of my other unsuspecting, naive Targets. My email is so full!!) I will be at work starting at 16:00 and I guess I will be out until I do not know when. If we miss each other I will call you on Tuesday, Maybe in the afternoon. if there is the chance.

Seems I am having to pack my bags again. (so many women, so few plane tickets.... HOW DOES HE DO IT ALL!!)
T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 04:29:43 EST
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: I am here for about 10 minutes and then Sleep
To: Target #1

Hey Cutie!
I had to go back out with the personnel and I have just returned. No sleep, but I am going to stay here for a few minutes in case you have reported into work and to see how you are doing and how your night went. (Keeping her hooked in and reeled up close!)

T
----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 02:57:57 EST
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: A Little Fire that Burns in My Heart!
To: Target #1



The sun rises,
and the moon sets.

Love comes in many sizes,
and some times it is with regret.

But as I look into your eyes,
I see love that is all so wise.

It has a fire that never dies,
and a heat that will always rise.

To you and to me,
are these fires that run free!

(Can someone pass the sickness bag? We are gonna' puke)


----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:12:13 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: To My Cutie!
To: Target #1

Cutie, (again with nicknames -- forgetting all these women's REAL names?)

You know it is getting the time when we can sit back and watch the fire and enjoy each others company while it snows outside. This is nice and I hope that we have that chance to do so. I would love to curl up with you in front of a nice fire place and chat and of course have something nice to eat by and to drink. Would we need anything else?
(The TRUTH might be good for starters! - Don't you wonder who else he wrote this tripe too?)

T

----- Forwarded message from GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com -----
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:27:25 EDT
From: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Reply-To: GrizzlyBear90604@aol.com
Subject: Re: poem's translation
To: Target #1

My answer to my Cutie:

Less not your eyes cry for me,
for in my heart I hold the.

Less not thine eyes shed the salt,
why should they when there is no fault.

So come into my arms,
and I will protect you from all that harms

(OH MY GOD! Again telling her to stop worrying when her GUT was probably sending up red flags left & right - and more awful poetry - GAG!!

Still trying to say he's CIA and SPECIAL OPS!! ROFLOAO)


----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:42:48 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: Hello Cutie!
To: Target #1

[I am imagining us] enjoying the sunset together.

Cutie, it was so nice chatting to you today and i thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to chat with me. I am working on getting the dates we had talked about in December. I started on them back in the States, so lets see now if I can get a break in my work, because actually I am not free until in and around February, but I know in November I will not have the chance to chat with you and I will be starved for your attention by the time I get there. (STARVED? What's the matter? Juggling too many women??)

So I hope you had a quiet evening and night and I hope your day on Tuesday is nice and quiet too!

T



----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:47:30 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: My Flower!
To: Target #1

You are like unto me a flower,
with sun rays of love you receive power.

In full bloom you give to me your wonderful pleasing fragrance,
and when I smell of you it makes my soul dance.

For in you as in the flower you can see the beauty inside and out,
so to me you are as the flower and of this I do not doubt.

So my sweet you have my heart,
and from your passion I shall not part

T

(wonder how many of his Targets he sent this bull**** to? We would love to hear what he tells his wife/ wives, girlfriends... etc)

----- Forwarded message from Grizzlybear -----
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:05:48 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
From: Grizzlybear
Reply-To: Grizzlybear
Subject: For Monday!
To: Target #1

I hope that your day started off nice. My weekend has been filled with work and it looks like I am going to have to work Mnday too. I will see, but my motor is running down now from being on the go so much. (Oh please, stick with one WIFE and stop being a PLAYER!) No, I am not really complaining just letting you know how I feel right now :)

Hope to chat with you sometime today.

T

IN REVIEW: PREDATOR OF THE MONTH: Nathan Ernest Burl Thomas Jr

We are re-running this expose, and then adding additional information from his last known target; through this month.

This was first posted in November 2005.

A good example of - GOOGLE EVERYONE YOU MEET ONLINE - no matter what! And stay away from ALL ONLINE DATING and NEVER get involved with someone you meet online (pen pals, reunion, chat, support) EVER!



Nathan Ernest Burl Thomas Jr
aka Nathan E. B. Thomas Jr
Born: Dec-03-52
Nicknames: T, Grizzlybear, SunTzu (and God knows what else)

(from November 2005)
is just another con man/ predator, out there on the Internet.
(NOTE: Thomas tends to prey on women (foreign or financially strapped) who seem to have no recourse when he makes up some fantastic story (his CLASSIC is being on a special mission for the CIA) and disappears on them when they find our or question him. )

One of his victims speaks:

I am divorced. After my divorce from an abusive man I was devasted but I was free. I work for the government in my country and I was busy enough at my job to allow me to have a full life. I was not looking for another relationship nor did I want to get involved. (Cyberpaths love a challenge!)

One day, I make the greatest mistake of my life (I know it now)! I posted a profile on a PenPal site (not a dating site) to practice my English and meet new people which seemed innocent.

I didn't want to date, I just wanted someone to talk with - from a distance (Predators LOVE complicated situations!). It was the summer of 2001 and I forgot about it because I got no responses.

Then in January 2002, I had one e-mail message, saying something like "I am an American citizen, currently living and working in Germany and if you want, you can write to me. I'm 49 years old and widowed."

I read this but I didn't immediately reply. A week later, the same person wrote again saying "well you must have so many e-mails that you don't have the time to write me" (I think now this was some kind of trap). (YEP! making you feel GUILTY!) I wrote him back saying that I was busy with work and that was the reason I couldn't reply before. To make a long story short, we eventually started to write each other.

He told me he was a widower. He told me his "wife" Felicia, died of cancer some years ago. He had three children (one daughter and two boys, all grown up).

According to him, his daughter (Cindy) was in the military in Korea and the other two sons were in the US. He told me he had grandchildren. He presented himself as deeply suffering from being lonely and still broken up about his "sainted wife's" death. (TYPICAL SOB story to lure in a good & compassionate person)

Just what can too much empathy do in the hands of a psychopath? It can keep her tied to the relationship way past the point of sanity. ...she has a steadfast connection to the psychopath that is not easily broken. This steadfast connection is what confuses her family and even her therapist.

Any psychopath can use his own sad history to hook her into his long term plans for her by playing the empathy card. Feeling for his personal situation and even “sensing” that he is disordered can pull the heart strings to keep her there.

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

I am a very big hearted and trusting person and I felt huge sympathy for this man. He told me he was in Stuutgart (Germany), in the military. In March 2002, he told me he wanted to meet me personally because (his words) I "seemed very nice and beautiful." He told me my "eyes in my photo were really beautiful. Your face could be on a magazine cover." (RED FLAG!)

That April, he came to my country and we met. Like what he presented online, he acted like a real gentleman! Intelligent and caring at the same time with a vast general background. We were just friends and while he was visiting nothing happened between us other than talking and getting to know one another as friends.

Then, a second meeting came and this time was different: I got emotionally & romantically lured in by this man! Afterwards, we met a lot and he always treated me like a gentleman; very caring. He was spending a lot of time and money to be with me. He gave me several presents. One of them was really expensive: a laptop computer! He inferred he got a deal through the military (probably with spyware on it to track everything you were doing & writing)

This happened over a period of three years and in spite of some red flags here and there, I was blind enough to give him my trust, heart, body and soul. Many times he told me: "I don't know how will my daughter react if she suspects I have found someone in my life. She is still very "stuck" to her mother's memory." (another typical Predator move - always leaving themselves an out while seeming SO NOBLE!)

His "late wife" was supposedly perfect. She "was Puerto Rican and very beautiful." One day he sent me "her" photo, and, oh boy, she was really pretty! Very well dressed and charming. (Wonder whose photo it really was? Another girlfriend?) Once, he told me a story how she cried when he had to leave her for so many months. I still remember his words saying she couldn't hold back the tears and how it broke his heart. "In some ways you remind me of her. You're so alike" - he said. (smack! totally fishing his victim in!)

Men also talked about [ ] other women as a means of inducing insecurity and low self esteem. -Sandra Brown, MA; WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

(This leaves the women trying HARDER to please them because of these comparisons to the 'other women' in the psychopath's life]

During this time, there were things he told me that didn't make sense. One of them was about his job. He told me he was working for the CIA and military intelligence. (OMG!! These predators LOVE telling this to foreign people - they are so FULL OF IT. If you are told this by anyone -- check it out!)

In November 2002, he told me he went to California to train people to prepare for the U.S. the invasion of Iraq. (It was a lie, later this victim found out he was merely there on vacation). But I made excuses for him and thought perhaps, not being American, I didn't understand.

When the Iraq war started, he told me he was going to be there. I found it strange when during that time he was supposedly in Iraq he was always in touch with me, by e-mail and phone. I found it strange because in the middle of a war and doing lots of "undercover missions" it would be difficult for an active military person to be in touch.

I was surprised but at the same time very happy because he presented it as me always being in his thoughts. He made me think that "he really loved me."

Then, my Godmother had a strange feeling one day and she suggested I call him. I did it and to my surprise he calmly answered his cell phone. Yet when I told him it was me, he started to say "hello, hello, who's on the phone? I cannot hear you..." and he hung up -- as if the telephone connection was bad. (LIE!!) His voice had a VERY nervous tone! (yeah, he was BUSTED!) My Godmother looked at me and told me "I hope I am wrong"!
(Victim's godmother had a gut feeling something was seriously amiss, as did the victim now )

That night he wrote me saying "I couldn't talk to you on the phone because I was waiting for a call which was going to be monitored! I had to ask my men to cut it off." Lots more love words and he apologized. (oh right.... this is classic. He probably spent a couple hours figuring out what to tell this poor victim.) I kept believing him. (He had manipulated her mind to WANT to believe & trust him. It's not your fault - he set you up! ALL CYBERPATHS DO THIS!!)

He was always sending me photos when we were not together. Photos from Heidelberg and lots of castles in Germany. Pictures of himself in Prague, Switzerland and Austria. He also sent me one photo taken outside by a lake in Chiemsee (Germany). He was dressed ceremonially with a medal of decoration. He told me it was the "Saint Barbara award". One of the things I didn't notice in that photo, is that on his left hand he was holding a lady's purse (it was necessary to use special software to see it later). (Other women taking those photos, huh? That's really AUDACIOUS on his part. Classic move.)

We were together in Paris and I can say my "red flag alarm rang" went off big-time there. He usually had his cell phone off and from time to time he turned it on, to check messages. One of those times, he had a voice message. He was close to me and I could hear what seemed the sound of a woman's voice, very nervous and angry. He called this person back and I remember he said "I don't want to listen to that crap again" and suddenly he started to speak an unknown language, maybe Creoule or similar. I know English, French, Portuguese and Spanish and I can spot the other western languages by the sound and phonics. This one was unknown to me.

While he was on that call I said to myself 'I need to go home because this man is lying.' I started to think to myself: why did he rent a car to be with me in Paris if he has his own car?

It sounded strange and after hanging up on his call, he turned to me and said he was having problems with his men working on the ground and he had to return one day sooner. I asked him if he was sure it was related to his work and obviously he answered "yes". (Oh lord what a lying piece of crap!!! either the wife or one of his other women he lured online caught on to his bulldung.) His "undercover missions with his men" were, according to him, very stressful and dangerous, etc... (so was keeping his LIES straight!)

His stories got more & more outrageous: one of his men was killed and that he was feeling guilty for not being there. In the meantime, his daughter was supposedly sent to Iraq. Another time, one of his men was supposedly bitten by a sand viper in the desert, etc... I could add a lot more of his lies but they just got more bizarre as time went on). (Like all internet psychopaths - the lies get more fantastic and bizarre as time goes on)

Then, in November (our last meeting) he told me it was going to be hard to reach him, as he was going to Afghanistan! He told me not to be worried, to live my life normally and keeping writing. As soon as he could, he would get in touch and then I could send him all the letters I had. (Oh puhleeze....)

When Christmas came (without news from him), I decided to call him. It was Christmas Eve. His phone was on voice mail and I left a message. He never answered me back. I found very strange that the phone was on VOICEMAIL while he was supposedly in Afghanistan! It was working, so he could have called me! from Afghanistan! I left another message on New Year's Day. Nothing! (Of course by now, he had twisted this poor victim's normal intelligence and won her over so imagine what strength it took for her to question him)

In the middle of January we could finally talk and he told me: he was living with the tribes of the desert and talked about unveiled women in front of him and the ethical codes of those tribes! He had lost 10 kgs. and they wanted him circumcised and a lot more unbelievable, outrageous things! (this guy is still out walking around among normal people???)

By that time I didn't believe a word and from that moment I started to search for records and I payed for background checks. I wanted to know everything I could about this man.

I found some answers:
- Thomas is married (he got married in Las Vegas/Nevada in 07- August-1995).
He married at the age of 42; (no record of divorce)

- His wife is alive and well and her name is Georgine - they have a house in Texas;

- He stays available (on instant messengers) day and night on the internet (till 4am/ 5am in the morning). I don't know how he can function if he barely sleeps!;
(because he's a predator and he's looking for more non-American, abused women who won't question him after he LOVE BOMBS them, exhausts and hypnotizes & mind controls them -- by then they are hooked and probably grateful for his attentions.... its all a lie)

...one would have to wonder if the psychopath isn’t by nature a little manic-y, requiring less sleep. Almost half of the psychopaths were also hyperactive (which could be the ADHD that is prevalent in psychopathy). - Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

- I believe all the photos he sent me were taken by other girlfriends (Prague, castles, etc.). If he lived in Germany for so many years why does he need to be always touring Europe? One of them was taken by his wife for sure (the one at the lake in Chiemsee);

- Maybe (and I say maybe), he gets explicit photos from his online girlfriends and he may put them on or sell them to some Internet porn site. I thank god because although he tried a number of times to get me to take explicit photos for him, I always said no and I believe this was one of the reasons he was devaluing me and trying to get me to dump him (that way, sociopaths can 1. play the pity card - "she dumped me" and 2. they don't get what they want, they move on quickly - feeling NOTHING);

(He's a perv and these predators always behave as if they are ABOVE REPROACH while asking you for things WAY outside your comfort zone.)

Many of the women experienced sexual damage and negative effects on their sexuality. Having been exposed to deviant sexual practice, humiliated about their sexual performance or bodies, compared to other women, cheated on, and often sexually harmed—most women felt they needed intensive sexual healing in order to overcome the affects of the sexually intimate relationship with a psychopath.

Ironically, many of the women’s stories end with the loss of their moral principles in the relationship. This could be through sexual deviance he asked her to participate in, or asking that she lie, steal, cheat, or in some other way violate her own moral code. By the end of the relationship, she was likely to have become mortified at his immoral behavior and how it took her down a negative path she never intended on.

Sandra Brown, MA - WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS

- He's a retired Seargent Major and at least during 2002 - 2004, he was the Chief of Housing for military and civilian personnel for the 6th Army ASG and dealing with private housing rentals in the South of Germany. He lied about his military involvement.


- I've confronted him but he denies everything. He feels no regret and he blames me for everything since I don't trust him. He tried to tell me I was putting 'him and others at risk' and the CIA would be upset with me. He's not CIA! He's sick! (BLAME SHIFTING OF THE PREDATOR)

He asked me not to harass him (they ALL accuse victims of harassing them. Since when is demanding truth & some honest explanations harassment?).

One of the times I was confronting him online, he pretended he was his son, just to not answer! He doesn't admit the truth even when its right under his nose. At least he could have said "I'm sorry" but he didn't because his lack of feelings and regret. He ran from me and cut me off as soon as he could. (Thomas is obviously a psychopath - no remorse, no conscience, lying, conning, sex addicted)

Sociopaths have no intervening sense of obligation to other people. They will betray whoever is convenient at the moment. They can’t maintain healthy and stable relationships primarily because sociopaths view people as disposable when their usefulness to their needs or agendas runs out, particularly if those people won’t believe their mischief and abuse anymore. The people who were their "best friends" yesterday become their latest project of abuse, harrass